No you don't not with an attitude like that you believe some people should be allowed to see some images and words.... Real life often offers hard choices with no clear cut guidelines to make those choices. In those cases I believe we are best served by erring on the side of freedom even at the risk that some people may be hurt on occasion.
I have to disagree with you completely here. True freedom should *never* hinder other people's freedom. If you use your freedom to take away other people's freedom, you cannot claim you have true freedom. There is a very clear distinction.
Those sickies who posted kiddie porn on the net, they took away freedom of those girls -- the freedom to live a life of their choice without shadows of childhood sexual abuse. The offenders exercised their so-called freedom to do what they want in this case. However, is this a real freedom?
Similarly, for those terrorists took up the liberty to kill innocent people, they destroyed their victims and families. Yes, the terrorists owned their freedom -- but is it a freedom from your point of view? Think about it.
What I was refering to is this paragraph here: "Think about it: do kiddie porn and terrorism really affect more people in the world than say, domestic violence, or alcohol abuse, or even theft? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than lack of food, lack of sanitary water, low wages, or disease? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than hurricanes and tsunamis? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than war, cluster bombs, or unexploded mines?" . -- It is presumptuous in quantifying the influence of crime/mishap/misfortune against another as they are all perceived differently by individuals.
Also keep in mind eliminating TOR is NOT going to end child pornography or terrorism. If TOR is gone these people will just switch to steganography, or coded phone calls, or secret drop spots. The bottom line is that if people want to do bad things they will most likely do them and the best we can do is clean up the mess afterwards. The alternative is quite literally 1984.
Yes. Eliminating TOR will not solve the crimes. What was shown in the news -- is the complete lack of understanding of TOR technology by the German authorities.
Think about it: do kiddie porn and terrorism really affect more people in the world than say, domestic violence, or alcohol abuse, or even theft? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than lack of food, lack of sanitary water, low wages, or disease? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than hurricanes and tsunamis? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than war, cluster bombs, or unexploded mines?
It is not about how wrong things are. Kiddie porn is *wrong*. It is as wrong as terrorism in moral terms. By not punishing the offending parties, you are condoning their act in tearing apart the future of those innocent girls. It is difficult to quantify the enourmous psychological effect of sexual exploitation in children and their families -- something that cannot be measured by a simple death toll.
Don't get me wrong. In principle I do believe in freedom of speech and freedom to surf.
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I have to disagree with you completely here. True freedom should *never* hinder other people's freedom. If you use your freedom to take away other people's freedom, you cannot claim you have true freedom. There is a very clear distinction.
Those sickies who posted kiddie porn on the net, they took away freedom of those girls -- the freedom to live a life of their choice without shadows of childhood sexual abuse. The offenders exercised their so-called freedom to do what they want in this case. However, is this a real freedom?
Similarly, for those terrorists took up the liberty to kill innocent people, they destroyed their victims and families. Yes, the terrorists owned their freedom -- but is it a freedom from your point of view? Think about it.
What I was refering to is this paragraph here: "Think about it: do kiddie porn and terrorism really affect more people in the world than say, domestic violence, or alcohol abuse, or even theft? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than lack of food, lack of sanitary water, low wages, or disease? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than hurricanes and tsunamis? Do kiddie porn and terrorism affect more people than war, cluster bombs, or unexploded mines?" . -- It is presumptuous in quantifying the influence of crime/mishap/misfortune against another as they are all perceived differently by individuals.
Also keep in mind eliminating TOR is NOT going to end child pornography or terrorism. If TOR is gone these people will just switch to steganography, or coded phone calls, or secret drop spots. The bottom line is that if people want to do bad things they will most likely do them and the best we can do is clean up the mess afterwards. The alternative is quite literally 1984.
Yes. Eliminating TOR will not solve the crimes. What was shown in the news -- is the complete lack of understanding of TOR technology by the German authorities.
It is not about how wrong things are. Kiddie porn is *wrong*. It is as wrong as terrorism in moral terms. By not punishing the offending parties, you are condoning their act in tearing apart the future of those innocent girls. It is difficult to quantify the enourmous psychological effect of sexual exploitation in children and their families -- something that cannot be measured by a simple death toll.
Don't get me wrong. In principle I do believe in freedom of speech and freedom to surf.