There is no debate.. just a bunch of electric universe cultists refusing to accept reality, probably because it'll hurt their bottom line. The conversation trying to get a mentally ill person to stop thinking they're Marie Antoinette is not a debate, it's just a really fucking stupid conversation with someone mentally ill who doesn't live in reality..... just like every conversation with an electric universe cultist.
They don't care. Electric universe idiots are a cult, not scientists. If they were scientists they would have understood they were wrong when COBE and WMAP proved their predictions were wrong.
"Newtonians" were right for a long time, then technology got better. Since then Einstein has been right. eventually, somewhere in the future, technology will get to the point where we'll have an even more precise definition. Electric universe, on the other hand, has NEVER been right, and when the few predictions it's made have been tested, they've been outright WRONG.
I get it, you're too fucking stupid to understand Relativity, and need some simple, no math, brain dead bullshit to make you feel special. You are special, but not in a good way. You're a fucking anon coward to start... if you have an opinion, put your name to it... or fuck off yourself you whiny little pseudo-science bitch.
Because most people aren't fucking idiots like you who think we should throw out 100+ years of science and WORKING TECHNOLOGY that requires that science to be correct. Electric universe is nothing more than a fucking con game for sucking idiots like you. There are no massive electric and magnetic fields that Alfven said had to exists (COBE and WMAP showed that). There are no galactic sized electrical arcs jumping between stars (we've never seen one, even thought they'd have to be a permanent structure).
So... just because someone's a crackpot pseudo-scienctist peddling a con for money means we shouldn't be mean to them for dragging actual science into their bullshit and giving real science a bad name? That's not intolerance, that's integrity. Want to talk science? Great. Electric universe isn't science, it's bullshit... it's a fucking con job begging gullible fools for money.
-- Einstein's postulates are wrong.
-- General relativity (GR) is wrong.
-- The Universe is not expanding.
-- The electric force travels faster than the speed of light with near-infinite velocity.
-- Gravity has two poles like a bar magnet; dipole gravity.
-- A plenum of neutrinos forms an all-pervasive aether.
-- Planets give birth to comets.
-- Stars do not shine because of internal nuclear fusion caused by gravitational collapse. Rather, they are anodes for galactic discharge currents.
-- Impact craters on Venus, Mars and the Moon are not caused by impacts, but by electrical discharges. The same applies to the Valles Marineris (a massive canyon on Mars) and the Grand Canyon on Earth.
-- The Sun is negatively charged, and the solar wind is positively charged — the two systems forming a giant capacitor (this is James McCanney's particular erroneous belief.)
-- EU proponents from the Thunderbolts Project claim to have predicted the natures of Pluto and Comet 67P more accurately than NASA or ESA.
Every one of these ideas are stupider than fuck. Anyone with a half way decent high school education SHOULD be able to look at that and realize that electric universe bullshit is a fucking worthless con job.
Lets take a shot at even the first one.... Einsteins postulates are wrong. Why is it that to get GPS to work, they have to account for Relativity? If Relativity was wrong, they wouldn't need to... now would they? The more you peddle this bullshit, the more you look like a fucking idiot.
Where's the radio emissions that Alfven predicted would be there (HAD to be there, for his bullshit to be correct)? We didn't see them with COBE or WMAP..... we don't see them now. Where are they? How can anyone with a fucking working brain cell buy into this type of shit when it literally has NO evidence, and can't fulfill any predictions it makes (IN FACT, it's preconditions turn out to be WRONG).
And yet, it still doesn't suggest that your worthless piece of shit electric universe bullshit is even remotely correct. The fact that we'd have to throw out 100+ years of science AND WORKING TECHNOLOGY FROM THAT SCIENCE to entertain the electric universe bullshit means it is just that... bullshit.
It's ironic that the MeerKAT telescope was designed to study black holes along with other things... as the electic universe bullshit says black holes don't exist.
Einstein was right, and the electric universe bullshit is a con job. Thomas Roberts, Fermilab (you know, a real scientist):
Note, however, that SR is not perfect (in agreement with every experiment), and there are some experiments that are in disagreement with its predictions. See Experiments that Apparently are not Consistent with SR where some of these experiments are referenced and discussed. It is clear that most, if not all, of these experiments have difficulties that are unrelated to SR. Note also that few if any standard references or textbooks even mention the possibility that some experiments might be inconsistent with SR, and there are also aspects of publication bias in the literature. That being said, as of this writing there are no reproducible and generally accepted experiments that are inconsistent with SR, within its domain of applicability.
Again, that isn't evidence that the electric universe bullshit is anything more than bullshit. All of you dipshits are just fucking liars. You steal real science, done by real scientists, and you warp it into this pseudo-science cult bullshit that you con people out of money with. Electric Universe would be the Piltdown man, if after they found out if was a forgery, the con men drug it around doing sideshows talking about how those bad little biologists don't like them (not mentioning because they're frauds) and begging people for money so they could go get a few cow bones at the local slaughterhouse to glue together to make a "real" dinosaur.
....but the electric force is still orders of magnitude stronger than gravitation, and it doesnâ(TM)t take much divergence from perfect charge neutrality to create massive electric and magnetice fields
You seem to be forgetting what you posted as an anon coward right above my response.
Electric universe is bullshit. It's a cult of stupid people who are too lazy to fucking learn reality, but want to be thougth of as smart anyway. It doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like con men and idiots.
The electric universe bullshit isn't plasma physics. It's not physics at all, and it's continued use of describing itself as "plasma physics," which is an actual physics discipline is nothing more than an outright lie.
And yes, for the electric universe bullshit to be right, Einstein has to be wrong.... and he wasn't. We have working technology that ONLY works BECAUSE of taking into account relativistic effects.
The actual field of plasma physics is valid, you're lying sack of con man shit electric universe bullshit isn't. It's a fucking con job by mentally incompetent NON-scientists who wish they had more intelligence.
We also know that the aberrations are consistent and are related to the mass of the central black hole, throughout the diff4erent galaxies. Electric universe dipshits want to through out over 100 years of science AND WORKING TECHNOLOGY because they're too fucking stupid to understand Relativity, or to learn basic math.
"Electric universe" theory is at odds with everything modern science has determined about the universe.
In physics, theories need math. That's how you predict, gather evidence, verify, disprove, and support. But EU theory isn't big on math. In fact, "Mathematics is not physics," Thornhill said. While that equation aversion makes the theory pretty much a nonstarter for "mainstream" astronomers, it is the exact thing that appeals to many adherents.
"At best, the 'electric universe' is a solution in search of a problem; it seeks to explain things we already understand very well through gravity, plasma and nuclear physics, and the like," said astronomer Phil Plait, who runs the blog Bad Astronomy at Slate. "At worst it's sheer crackpottery like homeopathy and astrology, making claims clearly contradicted by the evidence."
Lets get that again from a real scientist:
making claims clearly contradicted by the evidence
And yet when we search for these massive fields, they've never been found. Again, you're showing you don't actually know jack shit about physics. Quit embarrassing yourself.
You are an idiot. What you just said is bullshit, and shows you don't have the first fucking clue about general physics or cosmology. Electric universe bullshit is a con job by people trying to suck up a little money because, apparently, they're too stupid to get a real job. You're either incredibly stupid, or an intentional liar.... either way, you're simply fucking wrong.
Show the math. That's one thing electric universe bullshitter can never do because there's not a one of them with any actual science background... oh, except the guy you follow like he's a messiah, except his prediction proved FALSE. Too bad, tough titty... eu ain't science, it's bullshit.
Look, i know you electric universe dipshits have to keep pumping the con to keep the money coming in, but every little thing in the universe where electricity actually shows up doesn't prove you're con is anything more than bullshit.
Einstein was right, and we have the WORKING technology based on his theory (an ACTUAL theory) to prove it. The Earth isn't only 6000 years old, and the grand canyon wasn't made from a super lightning bolt.... it was eroded over a lot more than 6000 years. Electric universe is bullshit.
Electr4ic Universe conmen aren't scientists, they're cultists who think they're more intelligent than Einstein even after their shit brained bullshit idea has been shown to be a shit brained bullshit idea. Every time anything in actual physics pops up that remotely hints at "electricity" anywhere anytime, they're right there to pull out their bullshit and pile it up.
More recently, the 556 MW Kewaunee Nuclear Power Plant in eastern Wisconsin was shut down in 2013. Kewaunee’s operator, Dominion Power, anticipates nearly $1 billion in total costs using the SAFSTOR method and estimates that work will not be complete until 2073.
That $200,000 is looking pretty good put up against that $1 BILLION plus....and 60 years to complete.
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There is no debate.. just a bunch of electric universe cultists refusing to accept reality, probably because it'll hurt their bottom line. The conversation trying to get a mentally ill person to stop thinking they're Marie Antoinette is not a debate, it's just a really fucking stupid conversation with someone mentally ill who doesn't live in reality..... just like every conversation with an electric universe cultist.
They don't care. Electric universe idiots are a cult, not scientists. If they were scientists they would have understood they were wrong when COBE and WMAP proved their predictions were wrong.
"Newtonians" were right for a long time, then technology got better. Since then Einstein has been right. eventually, somewhere in the future, technology will get to the point where we'll have an even more precise definition. Electric universe, on the other hand, has NEVER been right, and when the few predictions it's made have been tested, they've been outright WRONG.
I get it, you're too fucking stupid to understand Relativity, and need some simple, no math, brain dead bullshit to make you feel special. You are special, but not in a good way. You're a fucking anon coward to start... if you have an opinion, put your name to it... or fuck off yourself you whiny little pseudo-science bitch.
Because most people aren't fucking idiots like you who think we should throw out 100+ years of science and WORKING TECHNOLOGY that requires that science to be correct. Electric universe is nothing more than a fucking con game for sucking idiots like you. There are no massive electric and magnetic fields that Alfven said had to exists (COBE and WMAP showed that). There are no galactic sized electrical arcs jumping between stars (we've never seen one, even thought they'd have to be a permanent structure).
http://galacticinteractions.sc...
If you have to be an anon coward cunt talking about shit you know nothing about, just fuck off.
So... just because someone's a crackpot pseudo-scienctist peddling a con for money means we shouldn't be mean to them for dragging actual science into their bullshit and giving real science a bad name? That's not intolerance, that's integrity. Want to talk science? Great. Electric universe isn't science, it's bullshit... it's a fucking con job begging gullible fools for money.
Explain:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/...
-- Einstein's postulates are wrong.
-- General relativity (GR) is wrong.
-- The Universe is not expanding.
-- The electric force travels faster than the speed of light with near-infinite velocity.
-- Gravity has two poles like a bar magnet; dipole gravity.
-- A plenum of neutrinos forms an all-pervasive aether.
-- Planets give birth to comets.
-- Stars do not shine because of internal nuclear fusion caused by gravitational collapse. Rather, they are anodes for galactic discharge currents.
-- Impact craters on Venus, Mars and the Moon are not caused by impacts, but by electrical discharges. The same applies to the Valles Marineris (a massive canyon on Mars) and the Grand Canyon on Earth.
-- The Sun is negatively charged, and the solar wind is positively charged — the two systems forming a giant capacitor (this is James McCanney's particular erroneous belief.)
-- EU proponents from the Thunderbolts Project claim to have predicted the natures of Pluto and Comet 67P more accurately than NASA or ESA.
Every one of these ideas are stupider than fuck. Anyone with a half way decent high school education SHOULD be able to look at that and realize that electric universe bullshit is a fucking worthless con job.
Lets take a shot at even the first one.... Einsteins postulates are wrong. Why is it that to get GPS to work, they have to account for Relativity? If Relativity was wrong, they wouldn't need to... now would they? The more you peddle this bullshit, the more you look like a fucking idiot.
Where's the radio emissions that Alfven predicted would be there (HAD to be there, for his bullshit to be correct)? We didn't see them with COBE or WMAP..... we don't see them now. Where are they? How can anyone with a fucking working brain cell buy into this type of shit when it literally has NO evidence, and can't fulfill any predictions it makes (IN FACT, it's preconditions turn out to be WRONG).
http://neutrinodreaming.blogsp...
And yet, it still doesn't suggest that your worthless piece of shit electric universe bullshit is even remotely correct. The fact that we'd have to throw out 100+ years of science AND WORKING TECHNOLOGY FROM THAT SCIENCE to entertain the electric universe bullshit means it is just that... bullshit.
Einstein was right... you are not.
Einstein was right, and the electric universe bullshit is a con job. Thomas Roberts, Fermilab (you know, a real scientist):
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/...
Note, however, that SR is not perfect (in agreement with every experiment), and there are some experiments that are in disagreement with its predictions. See Experiments that Apparently are not Consistent with SR where some of these experiments are referenced and discussed. It is clear that most, if not all, of these experiments have difficulties that are unrelated to SR. Note also that few if any standard references or textbooks even mention the possibility that some experiments might be inconsistent with SR, and there are also aspects of publication bias in the literature. That being said, as of this writing there are no reproducible and generally accepted experiments that are inconsistent with SR, within its domain of applicability.
Again, that isn't evidence that the electric universe bullshit is anything more than bullshit. All of you dipshits are just fucking liars. You steal real science, done by real scientists, and you warp it into this pseudo-science cult bullshit that you con people out of money with. Electric Universe would be the Piltdown man, if after they found out if was a forgery, the con men drug it around doing sideshows talking about how those bad little biologists don't like them (not mentioning because they're frauds) and begging people for money so they could go get a few cow bones at the local slaughterhouse to glue together to make a "real" dinosaur.
You're frauds and con men.
....but the electric force is still orders of magnitude stronger than gravitation, and it doesnâ(TM)t take much divergence from perfect charge neutrality to create massive electric and magnetice fields
You seem to be forgetting what you posted as an anon coward right above my response.
Electric universe is bullshit. It's a cult of stupid people who are too lazy to fucking learn reality, but want to be thougth of as smart anyway. It doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like con men and idiots.
The electric universe bullshit isn't plasma physics. It's not physics at all, and it's continued use of describing itself as "plasma physics," which is an actual physics discipline is nothing more than an outright lie.
And yes, for the electric universe bullshit to be right, Einstein has to be wrong.... and he wasn't. We have working technology that ONLY works BECAUSE of taking into account relativistic effects.
The actual field of plasma physics is valid, you're lying sack of con man shit electric universe bullshit isn't. It's a fucking con job by mentally incompetent NON-scientists who wish they had more intelligence.
We also know that the aberrations are consistent and are related to the mass of the central black hole, throughout the diff4erent galaxies. Electric universe dipshits want to through out over 100 years of science AND WORKING TECHNOLOGY because they're too fucking stupid to understand Relativity, or to learn basic math.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nz7neg/electric-universe-theory-thunderbolts-project-wallace-thornhill
"Electric universe" theory is at odds with everything modern science has determined about the universe.
In physics, theories need math. That's how you predict, gather evidence, verify, disprove, and support. But EU theory isn't big on math. In fact, "Mathematics is not physics," Thornhill said. While that equation aversion makes the theory pretty much a nonstarter for "mainstream" astronomers, it is the exact thing that appeals to many adherents.
"At best, the 'electric universe' is a solution in search of a problem; it seeks to explain things we already understand very well through gravity, plasma and nuclear physics, and the like," said astronomer Phil Plait, who runs the blog Bad Astronomy at Slate. "At worst it's sheer crackpottery like homeopathy and astrology, making claims clearly contradicted by the evidence."
Lets get that again from a real scientist:
making claims clearly contradicted by the evidence
Electric universe is bullshit.
And yet when we search for these massive fields, they've never been found. Again, you're showing you don't actually know jack shit about physics. Quit embarrassing yourself.
You are an idiot. What you just said is bullshit, and shows you don't have the first fucking clue about general physics or cosmology. Electric universe bullshit is a con job by people trying to suck up a little money because, apparently, they're too stupid to get a real job. You're either incredibly stupid, or an intentional liar.... either way, you're simply fucking wrong.
Einstein was right.
Show the math. That's one thing electric universe bullshitter can never do because there's not a one of them with any actual science background... oh, except the guy you follow like he's a messiah, except his prediction proved FALSE. Too bad, tough titty... eu ain't science, it's bullshit.
You forgot to sign in Chris.
Look, i know you electric universe dipshits have to keep pumping the con to keep the money coming in, but every little thing in the universe where electricity actually shows up doesn't prove you're con is anything more than bullshit.
Einstein was right, and we have the WORKING technology based on his theory (an ACTUAL theory) to prove it. The Earth isn't only 6000 years old, and the grand canyon wasn't made from a super lightning bolt.... it was eroded over a lot more than 6000 years. Electric universe is bullshit.
Psychotextiles... isn't that a brand name for '70s disco cloths?
I think there's two, and i doubt either of them could pass a high school physics class.
Exactly. They take real science and turn it into shit to feed into their con game.
Electr4ic Universe conmen aren't scientists, they're cultists who think they're more intelligent than Einstein even after their shit brained bullshit idea has been shown to be a shit brained bullshit idea. Every time anything in actual physics pops up that remotely hints at "electricity" anywhere anytime, they're right there to pull out their bullshit and pile it up.
Fuck NAZI's, fuck NAZI apologists, and fuck NAZI sympathizers.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinene...
More recently, the 556 MW Kewaunee Nuclear Power Plant in eastern Wisconsin was shut down in 2013. Kewaunee’s operator, Dominion Power, anticipates nearly $1 billion in total costs using the SAFSTOR method and estimates that work will not be complete until 2073.
That $200,000 is looking pretty good put up against that $1 BILLION plus....and 60 years to complete.
Yeh, that family dog is all nice and everything until it gets between you and your cruiser.... then it turns into fucking Cujo.