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  1. Re:Our laws are not the world's laws. on Four Indicted in Pirate Bay Case · · Score: 1

    With that argument, you must necessarily believe that anyone who posts on the Internet is bound by the speech restrictions of every country that has citizens with Internet access. Better not post anything unpleasant about China; that's illegal there, and by allowing your data to be sent there, you are breaking their law and should be charged.

    Unless he crossed into the United States to mail his items, United States criminal system should have *NO* jurisdiction. To hold otherwise is to open extraterritoriality floodgates; I'm sure you wouldn't be comfortable with the results. A business selling goods DOES NOT equal freedom of speech. That's a strawman argument with no foundation to even begin to justify using it here. It's simply an attempt to confuse the issue at hand.

    He sold goods, across the border. He *is* liable for the legality of the goods he was sending into the US. He was exporting marijuana seeds from Canada, into the US. And, by all likelihood he was using the USPS and/or customs agents to do it.

    Had it simply been his website accessible to US citizens, again, no foul. He, however, sold his goods, across national borders, not simply spoke out about things. He does not have to cross borders. The items he is selling and delivering to his customer did. That, is simply enough to charge a business with violation of US law.

    Again, the US's methods of intimidation were sketchy at best, but he still broke US law, when he sent his goods into the US.
  2. Re:Our laws are not the world's laws. on Four Indicted in Pirate Bay Case · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He broke no Canadian laws - it's the Americans that broke the law by buying. He never advertised in the US, nor did he ever solicit their business. If you sold something on ebay that was legal in the US, but broke the laws of the country of the person who bought it, would you accept extradition to that country to rot in their jails?

    However, depending on the methods in which he transported his wares to the US citizens, he either used the USPS to transport illegal material (a felony), imported illegal material into the US (a felony), or smuggled illegal material into the US through customs (also a felony). He broke American law by shipping materials that were illegal in the US to Americans currently in the US. If he had shipped them to the American citizens, at Canadian addresses, and the Americans then attempted to import the goods, they would be the only ones charged.

    But this involves marijuana, so we're supposed to overlook it and think any regulation is bad.

    I don't agree with some of the details of our coercion attempts, or the relative length of his jail time compared to other more heinous activities, but there is no way around saying that he broke the law. As for fighting extradtion, if you're going to operate a business internationally, you need to be aware of all laws pertinent to where your clients are. Otherwise you probably shouldn't be operating an INTERNATIONAL business.
  3. Re:Our laws are not the world's laws. on Four Indicted in Pirate Bay Case · · Score: 1

    The US government felt they had the right to arrest him for selling over the internet to persons located in the US. Had he kept his business entirely confined to areas that sale of seeds was legal, we would just be royally ticked at him, not locking him up. He did it to himself when he sold his first item to someone in the US and sent it to them.

  4. Re:bounces are better on Sys-Admins Reading the Bosses Mail? · · Score: 1
    "I Read Your E-mail"
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