"With the P4 Itel will have faster sounding chips - and a lot of people - especially when buying things to impress children or workmates who may be as equally uninformed will go for the faster sounding chip."
Faster sounding chips at a 400% price premium? People don't by SGI Onyx's to impress their friends either. Until the P4 drops SERIOUSLY in price it is no contender for the home market at all.
As I heard someone somewhere say:
For the price of one complete P4 system, why not get three or four AMD Duron systems and run them in a Beowulf cluster?
Let's see here, Linux has: -Stable systems -Free OS -Lots of FREE tools, Woohoo! -Open API Whereas, Microsoft has: -Questionable stability -$200+ for the OS -Expensive tools -Only a SEMI-open API Questionable stability? You have not used Win2k or WinNT apparently, its stability is very, very good. A few reboots per month perhaps, if you really stretch the system and write strange code. $200+ for the OS? It's usually included in the price of the PC you bought. The people that actually buy PCs with NO preinstalled OS are a minority. Getting the more advanced OS's of course is different, unless you're buying Dells you'll have to pay for WinNT or Win2k. But I develop using Win95 at home, and don't have too many problems with it. Expensive tools? For professional development, perhaps. Though you can get cheap student editions, or buy cheap older versions. Releasing commercial code with this is usually impossible though, definately negative. Only a semi-open API. I think it's less than Semi-open, but you're right, Linux wins there.
Okay so I'm being deliberately virulent here, but the E.U. will not allow agreements like that in under ANY condition.
Over here we have a little saying that goes - "Customer is King". That means none of that ridiculous protection for companies selling stuff they know is shoddy.
Actually, I really don't get it.. Is Virginia one of the states also sueing Microsoft for Anti-Trust violations? If so, it just gets better and better.
People from the US - WHERE do you get your politicians? Actually I'm sure most of you reading this will be cringing at what the great mass of people is voting for in your country. I hope for your sake you get it turned around before they REALLY mess things up badly... Though they seem to be trying hard to do that as fast as possible.
I have to say I kindof agree here... Linus IS displaying double standards, though I also understand Linus' need to make some money somewhere to live from. I think we all need to take a long hard look at ourselves as well... I'm a software engineer, I believe in Open Source for some things, but sometimes I need to be able to sell something! This Bob's problem is that he cannot cope with an idealistic movement such as Open Source undercutting his own value for no other reason than enjoying the programming... He can feel it breathing down his neck - what if all over the world all of a sudden everything would become "Open Source"?? ( Can you say Communism? ) ( and I think we all know America's love for the more social side of politics:) ) Bottom Line - Transmeta/Crusoe: Closed source for the reason of keeping away the corporate sharks, not to cheese off open source community. They are small and an upstart startup, they need to have some elbow room on the market before they can open up the design.
Quote: "Just because we have the keys to human genetics doesn't mean we're necessarily going to take it for a joyride." You know better than that. It will be pushed ALL the way as long as there is profit to be had...
I'd like to add this to the flurry of comments -indeed it's unenforcable to check if you are indeed 18, but the fact that the clause is THERE prevents Corel from being sued under certain circumstances. There are very specific contract issues dealing with handing stuff to minors, a legal minefield really. So don't worry about it too much, it's legalese, and I'm sure corel will tell you that (OFF the record anyway). Just go ahead and download it!
WHOO HOO! Well you think what I think. The gun-connection is appropriate - several US states are now thinking of sueing gun companies for making tools that are OBVIOUSLY directed towards harming people. The same will happen with software I presume.
Hmmmmm. I think it is rather over-simplified, because many territories have now invested millions (probably billions) in internet infrastructure. It's not a US net, its not a global net, it's universal. You take a cable and plug it into it. And I thought the whole point of it was freedom anyway, so what's wrong with electing members from what I suppose are all different countries ( which also touches that point mentioned in another reply to the original news post - since when is Europe a single country then people?), to talk on policies together? I'm sure that in the end they don't actually get to decide anything, the internet itself has a habit of doing that for them anyway, so get professionals from all over to talk together. And just because the US has a lot of users doesn't necessarily mean they have the best professionals, or even that if they were less or more represented their views would suffer less representation. It is not a political board, it is not a political organisation (whatever its parent may be), it's about technical stuff. So shaddup and let them do their work:)
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"With the P4 Itel will have faster sounding chips - and a lot of people - especially when buying things to impress children or workmates who may be as equally uninformed will go for the faster sounding chip." Faster sounding chips at a 400% price premium? People don't by SGI Onyx's to impress their friends either. Until the P4 drops SERIOUSLY in price it is no contender for the home market at all. As I heard someone somewhere say: For the price of one complete P4 system, why not get three or four AMD Duron systems and run them in a Beowulf cluster?
Let's see here, Linux has: -Stable systems -Free OS -Lots of FREE tools, Woohoo! -Open API Whereas, Microsoft has: -Questionable stability -$200+ for the OS -Expensive tools -Only a SEMI-open API Questionable stability? You have not used Win2k or WinNT apparently, its stability is very, very good. A few reboots per month perhaps, if you really stretch the system and write strange code. $200+ for the OS? It's usually included in the price of the PC you bought. The people that actually buy PCs with NO preinstalled OS are a minority. Getting the more advanced OS's of course is different, unless you're buying Dells you'll have to pay for WinNT or Win2k. But I develop using Win95 at home, and don't have too many problems with it. Expensive tools? For professional development, perhaps. Though you can get cheap student editions, or buy cheap older versions. Releasing commercial code with this is usually impossible though, definately negative. Only a semi-open API. I think it's less than Semi-open, but you're right, Linux wins there.
Over here we have a little saying that goes - "Customer is King". That means none of that ridiculous protection for companies selling stuff they know is shoddy.
Actually, I really don't get it.. Is Virginia one of the states also sueing Microsoft for Anti-Trust violations? If so, it just gets better and better.
People from the US - WHERE do you get your politicians? Actually I'm sure most of you reading this will be cringing at what the great mass of people is voting for in your country. I hope for your sake you get it turned around before they REALLY mess things up badly... Though they seem to be trying hard to do that as fast as possible.
I have to say I kindof agree here... Linus IS displaying double standards, though I also understand Linus' need to make some money somewhere to live from. I think we all need to take a long hard look at ourselves as well... I'm a software engineer, I believe in Open Source for some things, but sometimes I need to be able to sell something! This Bob's problem is that he cannot cope with an idealistic movement such as Open Source undercutting his own value for no other reason than enjoying the programming... He can feel it breathing down his neck - what if all over the world all of a sudden everything would become "Open Source"?? ( Can you say Communism? ) ( and I think we all know America's love for the more social side of politics :) ) Bottom Line - Transmeta/Crusoe: Closed source for the reason of keeping away the corporate sharks, not to cheese off open source community. They are small and an upstart startup, they need to have some elbow room on the market before they can open up the design.
Quote: "Just because we have the keys to human genetics doesn't mean we're necessarily going to take it for a joyride." You know better than that. It will be pushed ALL the way as long as there is profit to be had...
I'd like to add this to the flurry of comments -indeed it's unenforcable to check if you are indeed 18, but the fact that the clause is THERE prevents Corel from being sued under certain circumstances. There are very specific contract issues dealing with handing stuff to minors, a legal minefield really. So don't worry about it too much, it's legalese, and I'm sure corel will tell you that (OFF the record anyway). Just go ahead and download it!
WHOO HOO! Well you think what I think. The gun-connection is appropriate - several US states are now thinking of sueing gun companies for making tools that are OBVIOUSLY directed towards harming people. The same will happen with software I presume.
Hmmmmm. I think it is rather over-simplified, because many territories have now invested millions (probably billions) in internet infrastructure. It's not a US net, its not a global net, it's universal. You take a cable and plug it into it. And I thought the whole point of it was freedom anyway, so what's wrong with electing members from what I suppose are all different countries ( which also touches that point mentioned in another reply to the original news post - since when is Europe a single country then people?), to talk on policies together? I'm sure that in the end they don't actually get to decide anything, the internet itself has a habit of doing that for them anyway, so get professionals from all over to talk together. And just because the US has a lot of users doesn't necessarily mean they have the best professionals, or even that if they were less or more represented their views would suffer less representation. It is not a political board, it is not a political organisation (whatever its parent may be), it's about technical stuff. So shaddup and let them do their work :)