You're missing the point; you are assuming that the vendors won't all bend over backwards to make Microsoft happy, even if it means scourging the tiny percentage of the market that wants to use other operating systems on their hardware.
It is naive to assume that companies selling motherboards will behave any differently from the ones selling pre-built machines when it comes down to being able to advertise their products as "windows 10 ready"
No, obnoxious is being so damned anxious to insult someone that you totally miss the context of the original statement, rendering your crass remark nonsensical, and then getting your friends to mod them down and replying anonymously because you still after all that feel you need to get the last word in all the time.
Read it again, english-as-a-second-language troll. I said "buy your pizza" not "buy you pizza" where "your" implies you're the pizza vendor. In other words, the potential for inevitable abuses by advertisers presents an unacceptable consumer risk were this technology to be perfected and then legalized for such unregulated uses.
Yes, I concur. I am a fan of the Rosewill USB 2.0 Adapter - RCW-608 - for IDE / SATA Device. Cheap, versatile, effective. Connect one of these to your average Linux box and doing data rescue operations from ancient hardware becomes as simple as pulling the drive out of the original machine.
Assuming its not actually one of their own employees/consultants helping re-infect the systems maybe one or more of these fairly common situations applies:
* Using Cisco routers with default configurations and firmware that hasn't been updated in years... * Using unencrypted, plain text authentication for systems instead of public key auth... * No password strength standards (some employees predictably using "911" or "123456" for their passwords) * Employees allowed to re-use the same passwords after the supposed "clean sweep" * Windows filesharing services * Wireless networking at all, or possibly using WEP or even completely open * Microsoft office documents from outside sources * HP printers, or really any network/wifi enabled printers * That one old Windows XP box nobody is allowed to reformat clean because its "mission critical" * Employees are allowed to bring in their own laptops/cellphones and other usb/bluetooth/wifi enabled devices
Did I miss anything? Anyone else seen this crap enough times to know the intrusion vector is probably nothing highly advanced or original?
You're onto something, but coming at it from the wrong direction. CDNs do also (or at least can be used to) violate net neutrality. Security and convenience are always going to be fundamentally opposing ideals.
Yep, violates net neutrality. What is *harder* to swallow though is that they seem to already be doing this for U-Verse; and patenting it is probably just a ploy to force other ISPs to pay them licensing fees for what largely amounts to slightly more clever proxies configurations and a change to default router settings.
Well, far be it for me to pull your head out of the sand. For some reason you seem really defensive about this, like the truth would shatter your fragile grasp on reality. I suggest not turning on the TV to something other than fox news...
Yea well I know that but I meant it sarcastically.
You forgot to provide evidence of the average income in each — choosing to talk instead about availability of Internet service there instead.
You can pretend all you want that the fact of the differences in base costs of living and the lack of availability of network infrastructure that is Netflix-capable across the vast majority of the geographic area of the continental USA is as irrelevant to my initial statement and the relative economic status of Cuba vs places in the USA you can only get to after driving for hours down unpaved dirt/gravel roads, but I doubt most the rest of the readers of this now rather tiresome and pedantic thread (though I pity them) will miss your lame attempt at astro-turfing over the actual problem.
I have an Idea! How about you dig up the wikipedia page and do the math yourself for the adjustments for inflation and commodities costs and subtract stuff paid for implicitly by their socialized health care and food and housing systems? Also, maybe get a second opinion on that 20$ figure; Fox News isn't really known for their super accurate accounting of facts on numbers like this. I heard somewhere that the actual number for Cuban monthly household incomes is over 20 times what you cited.
Really? I thought I just enumerated 3 of them, as you requested. Its not like you're gonna be able to find these places on Google Maps. The whole continent isn't a city, bro.
You should visit the back woods of Montana or Arkansas some time, it'll enlighten you. Also, we still have "Indian Reservations" and the tribes don't *all* own casinos. Adjust for inflation and lack of demand due to how sparse the population is in some areas and you'll find that its really easy to get out-of-range of modern cable/dsl/fiber internet once you're in a place where the ratio of Deer per square mile is 5x that of humans. I know someone who lived about a mile outside of a town of about 4,000 people who just finally got high-speed DSL LAST YEAR.
Note: I assume here they're not counting satellite or dial-up internet as "internet." I assume they meant "broadband capable of Netflix streaming" when they said "internet."
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The OEMs for the most part aren't even remotely frightened of the tiny percentage of us using non-Microsoft operating systems.
You're missing the point; you are assuming that the vendors won't all bend over backwards to make Microsoft happy, even if it means scourging the tiny percentage of the market that wants to use other operating systems on their hardware.
It is naive to assume that companies selling motherboards will behave any differently from the ones selling pre-built machines when it comes down to being able to advertise their products as "windows 10 ready"
So, the 100,000 or so of us who use Linux will simply stop buying new hardware and the industry will not even notice we're gone.
Its hardly the only thing by which "Internet of Things" is endangered. Its far from the biggest threat I'd even say.
Use IRC. Typing skill is not optional.
No, obnoxious is being so damned anxious to insult someone that you totally miss the context of the original statement, rendering your crass remark nonsensical, and then getting your friends to mod them down and replying anonymously because you still after all that feel you need to get the last word in all the time.
Read it again, english-as-a-second-language troll. I said "buy your pizza" not "buy you pizza" where "your" implies you're the pizza vendor. In other words, the potential for inevitable abuses by advertisers presents an unacceptable consumer risk were this technology to be perfected and then legalized for such unregulated uses.
Or you could just... you know... remotely compel everyone in a 2 mile radius to buy your pizza.
E and F are redundant
Yes, I concur. I am a fan of the Rosewill USB 2.0 Adapter - RCW-608 - for IDE / SATA Device. Cheap, versatile, effective. Connect one of these to your average Linux box and doing data rescue operations from ancient hardware becomes as simple as pulling the drive out of the original machine.
Either the joke went over my head or you two know something specific about this that nobody else seems to on the outside.
I think its more accurate to say "The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing."
[trolling]No, they should bulldoze everything and then install Linux.[/trolling]
Assuming its not actually one of their own employees/consultants helping re-infect the systems maybe one or more of these fairly common situations applies:
* Using Cisco routers with default configurations and firmware that hasn't been updated in years...
* Using unencrypted, plain text authentication for systems instead of public key auth...
* No password strength standards (some employees predictably using "911" or "123456" for their passwords)
* Employees allowed to re-use the same passwords after the supposed "clean sweep"
* Windows filesharing services
* Wireless networking at all, or possibly using WEP or even completely open
* Microsoft office documents from outside sources
* HP printers, or really any network/wifi enabled printers
* That one old Windows XP box nobody is allowed to reformat clean because its "mission critical"
* Employees are allowed to bring in their own laptops/cellphones and other usb/bluetooth/wifi enabled devices
Did I miss anything? Anyone else seen this crap enough times to know the intrusion vector is probably nothing highly advanced or original?
You're onto something, but coming at it from the wrong direction. CDNs do also (or at least can be used to) violate net neutrality. Security and convenience are always going to be fundamentally opposing ideals.
All those poor Steam and Battle.net subscribers...
Yep, violates net neutrality. What is *harder* to swallow though is that they seem to already be doing this for U-Verse; and patenting it is probably just a ploy to force other ISPs to pay them licensing fees for what largely amounts to slightly more clever proxies configurations and a change to default router settings.
The disguises and cash wouldn't be worth much in the way of anonymity if you were still carrying your cellphone.
Well, I could have told you this for free. I think in some cases, particularly legacy codebases, 5% is pretty generous too.
Well, far be it for me to pull your head out of the sand. For some reason you seem really defensive about this, like the truth would shatter your fragile grasp on reality. I suggest not turning on the TV to something other than fox news...
I'm not your brother —
Yea well I know that but I meant it sarcastically.
You forgot to provide evidence of the average income in each — choosing to talk instead about availability of Internet service there instead.
You can pretend all you want that the fact of the differences in base costs of living and the lack of availability of network infrastructure that is Netflix-capable across the vast majority of the geographic area of the continental USA is as irrelevant to my initial statement and the relative economic status of Cuba vs places in the USA you can only get to after driving for hours down unpaved dirt/gravel roads, but I doubt most the rest of the readers of this now rather tiresome and pedantic thread (though I pity them) will miss your lame attempt at astro-turfing over the actual problem.
I have an Idea! How about you dig up the wikipedia page and do the math yourself for the adjustments for inflation and commodities costs and subtract stuff paid for implicitly by their socialized health care and food and housing systems? Also, maybe get a second opinion on that 20$ figure; Fox News isn't really known for their super accurate accounting of facts on numbers like this. I heard somewhere that the actual number for Cuban monthly household incomes is over 20 times what you cited.
Really? I thought I just enumerated 3 of them, as you requested. Its not like you're gonna be able to find these places on Google Maps. The whole continent isn't a city, bro.
You should visit the back woods of Montana or Arkansas some time, it'll enlighten you. Also, we still have "Indian Reservations" and the tribes don't *all* own casinos. Adjust for inflation and lack of demand due to how sparse the population is in some areas and you'll find that its really easy to get out-of-range of modern cable/dsl/fiber internet once you're in a place where the ratio of Deer per square mile is 5x that of humans. I know someone who lived about a mile outside of a town of about 4,000 people who just finally got high-speed DSL LAST YEAR.
Note: I assume here they're not counting satellite or dial-up internet as "internet." I assume they meant "broadband capable of Netflix streaming" when they said "internet."