No, the Internet doesn't have a high information circulation speed, if anything it makes things much more insular.
If I hop over to Fark and mention Unity100 no one will care to even look you up, if I go to 4chan and curse at people in/b/ no one will link it to here. If I go to WoW forums or Democratic underground and mention this thread, no one will care about any of the personas here.
My clueless mother has been on the internet for 15 years and she's able to last while remaining clueless and the internet takes zero technical aptitude to access.
Zero. Click a button on your phone, iPad, Wii, Windows box and you are on the internet.
From 1807 to 1820 it was Royal Navy, from 1820 to 1861 it was a joint patrol.
As for the theft, the issue here wasn't in finding the iPhone, it was that someone found the object, then turned around and sold it, which made it trafficking stolen goods.
As for the majority of countries not classifying this as theft, Germany does, the Commonwealth countries do, the United States does, in Japan its a miscellaneous offense, in New Zealand it's covered under the Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Act.
So prove that selling something you've stolen isn't against the law in all of these countries you claim.
If you lose something at sea (or in this case, a German bar), you have two years to claim it. Now the cost of salvaging it can be take against the value of the objects (in this case there was no cost of salvage, picking something up costs nothing), so Apple or the Engineer who lost the iPhone has two years to make a claim to get the iPhone back.
Note - there are not over 256 countries, there are 203 sovereign states and 192 of those are UN members.
Regarding Korea and Israel, Korea cost the US 38,00 dead, and 100,000 wounded and MIA, thats a hefty cost there and.7 to 1 billion dollars a year just to keep the bases up.
Yes, the Jewish political lobby is stronger than the Korean one.
As for the two-state solution, until the Palestinian Authority gives up on violence and all the talk of pushing the Jews into the sea (something they've been threatening since the 1930s), the Israeli people will not agree to a two-state solution.
The settlements are a political outlet because of the tension from the Al-Aqsa Intifada, Hezbollah and Gaza rocket attacks. The moderate governments and Likud is moderate are using the settlements to keep the Orthodox from really getting spun up and getting the government. Stop settlements and push the two-state solution while the Palestinians aren't going to disarm and Yisrael Beiteinu with Shas get more power, then you'll see the apartheid state.
All that aside, why is it's Israel's duty to allow a right of return when the Arab states and Iran will not allow Jews to return to their homelands in the region? We hear stories on NPR about an Arab whose land was taken during the 1948 and how the family pines to return to their house in East Jerusalem, but no one cares about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who lost everything they had in Baghdad, Tehran, Qom or Cairo.
1948 Israel declared independence with a call to the Palestinians to join the Jews and make a better place, the Palestinians and Arabs refused and lost the war, why is the burden on Israel to settle now?
The Eisengruppen were the special units of the SS that went around and killed Jews and other non desirable groups in the territories Germany occupied.
The kibbutz I lived on and the territory I was wounded in were bought from the Ottoman Empire between 1900-1914 and were Jewish territories under the Mandate, had the Arabs not attacked the Jews in 1947-1949 over Israeli independence, those lands were Israeli, so it wasn't an occupied territory, it was legally (Ottoman, Mandate, and UN partition plan) Israel.
And you are assuming the vast bulk of internet users are some enlightened Übermensch when in fact 99.6% are farmvilling, trolling, AOL email checking n00bs who don't know what an IP number is.
They know how to get on Napster or Limewire, but don't have a clue how Bittorrent works and have never heard of the USENET.
So btards, Democratic Underground, Stormfront, Free Republic, the pedophile chatrooms, Truthers, Birthers, militant chatrooms, religious homeschooler groups, Anti-Vax folks, those are the most informed, up to date and active segment of the world?
Go over to the WoW Shaman forums when they announce a change in an upcoming patch and you'll see that you give people who log onto the Internet too much credit.
1. What does Saudi marriage law have to do with California's stance on property? Nothing at all, you might have well said "cats and dogs have a common ancestor so California's laws are poopy."
2. California's law on stolen property has held up in court for what, 140 years?
3. How does California's law on stolen property go against the majority of the world?
Looking around on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receipt_of_stolen_property - it seems every US state has laws concerning this, so it's not just California's "bullshit law", so does Scotland and England. Besides, just because you leave something that doesn't eliminate your ownership of it or your claim to it.
Look at Jalopnik on the Toyota issues, first they were posting every accident and wondering aloud if Toyota's move to electronic links was the problem and once it got popularized in the media, they started defending Toyota.
At first they were calling it "Beige bites back." Now they are blaming old drivers.
And also the Roman centric nature of the society. It was a city-state that expanded wildly from what, 100 BCE to 100 CE with the bulk of the governance being rich Romans or rich generals.
Imagine what the US would have been like if Eisenhower and MacArther had returned from WW2 and fought over New York and DC with the war spoils of Germany and Japan.
Some selling stolen property is the criminal part here.
"Under a California law dating back to 1872, any person who finds lost property and knows who the owner is likely to be but "appropriates such property to his own use" is guilty of theft. If the value of the property exceeds $400, more serious charges of grand theft can be filed. In addition, a second state law says any person who knowingly receives property that has been obtained illegally can be imprisoned for up to one year."
Gawker threw out all the journalist reputation they may have built up by outing the guy who had lost the device in question. They posted his personal information in exchange for some page views.
Well, not all Republicans are Jesus Freaks anymore than all Democrats are Atheist Abortion freaks.
What exactly is the Jesus line?
As for Bush being the "biggest socialist" post World War Two, how is his platform any more socialist than Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson's Great Society or Nixon?
There needs to be higher income taxes on the top brackets, like we had in the 1950s, less taxing on the lower brackets, like we had when the income tax was developed, and tax things like tobacco, recreational drugs, gambling.
My support for Israel comes from a couple things. First, I'm Jewish, the majority of my European ancestors were killed by the Eisengruppen. Secondly, I lived there for a time on a secular kibbutz and in my time there I was wounded by Hezbollah.
Now, the peace-process has been imperiled ever since the Palestinians said 95% wasn't enough, so really was this extra endangered by what happened in March? I don't agree with the settlement system but Palestinians are not innocent when it comes to the peace process. Gaza was firing hundreds of missiles into Israel before Operation Cast Lead.
Beyond the heritage thing and my having lived in Israel, I support Israel because it is a industrious democracy in a region where industry and invention are rare. Outside of Israel and Lebanon which nations in the region aren't monarchies when it comes to succession? Libya and Egypt's heir apparent are the sons of the current leader, Syria already went that way, the Arab states are all monarchies except for Iraq. Yemen isn't going that way right now, but its a complicated mess there. Tunisia is a dictatorship, Algeria has semi-free elections.
"Israel has approximately the same number of companies listed on NASDAQ as the next three countries (Canada, Japan, and Ireland) combined."
So the US pulls support for Israel, Israel will either fall or they will be forced into another October War scenario, Israel has a smaller military than it did in 1973, with Iran about to go nuclear, Hezbollah and Syria getting IRBMs, Israel will someday use atomic weapons to survive. Israel falls or Israel survives, millions of refugees either way, hundred billion dollars of infrastructure lost and what is gained? Nothing at all.
Would the US let South Korea go without the II Corps defending it? Why did the US support South Korea or Taiwan when they've not run their countries the way we'd like them to? Because the strategic and economic investments are too great to let them fail.
I don't vote for the GOP. I vote for the local politicians and state politicians who I agree with, they just usually happen to have an (R) by their name.
At the national level I vote for the following: Gun-rights Israel War on Terror National Defense/Security
In 1996 the national leader I voted for had a (D) by his name, I voted for Democratic Senators that were the right choice, like Johnson and Daschle from South Dakota, and later Thune over Daschle.
I'll read ballot measures through and generally vote for bonds that favor education and raising property taxes, I'm in favor of legalizing soft drugs and gambling, then taxing the hell out of them.
I don't give a whit about if something is socialist or not, that doesn't matter. But I care alot about how the welfare state ruins communities, like the welfare induced malaise of the Reservations, and I care about the 2nd Amendment.
Well, gambling at its base is a tax on people that can't do math, but sure, some of it will go to gambling addiction, but I hope more of it will go into things like missiles and tanks.
I'm a Republican, I don't like gambling because it just doesn't interest me, but I curse like a teamster, never go to a house of worship and my pr0n collection is vast. I'm not gay but I've met gay Republicans.
Many of us Republicans don't have religious morals, my fiancee's parents are militant atheists and are among the most conservative people I know.
You've heard of Las Vegas maybe? Thats the big one, gambling is legal there. We have the entire state of Nevada too. There is Atlantic City New Jersey, the Indian Casinos scattered all over, riverboat gambling in a number of states, horse and dog betting and a host of other gambling types, which are legal some places and not legal in others.
Don't forget historical gambling locales like Deadwood South Dakota, Cripple Creek or Blackhawk Colorado.
The People's Republic of China has the air defenses to maybe shoot down F-22s and B-2s if they get in range around Beijing and the nuclear weapon facilities. The rest of the PRC's air defenses can be (probably) penetrated with B-2s and F-22s, once the air defenses are taken out, then the non-stealthy aircraft will be able to target at will anything they want.
The DPRK only defends the leadership sites, the capital and the nuclear facilities, F-22s, B-1Bs, French Rafales, Eurofighter Typhoons and B-2s should be able to operate anywhere they want as the DPRK doesn't have as good of SAMs.
The US on the other hand...the only SAMs we have up for defense are Stinger missiles for the leadership sites, Patriots are deployed for super important events like the G-8, but otherwise Patriots are only deployed overseas and at the home of the US Army Air Defense Artillery base. Warships can be deployed to cover ports and coast cities.
As for price...well an ICBM is cheap compared to a plane.
Slashdot Mirror
The SUV existed before CAFE.
CAFE started in 1975.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban
1935
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Bronco
1966
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Cherokee_(SJ)
1974
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wagoneer
1963
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_cruiser
1951
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_Classic
1970
Nope, its not addictive at all, unless you are into that sort of thing.
No, the Internet doesn't have a high information circulation speed, if anything it makes things much more insular.
If I hop over to Fark and mention Unity100 no one will care to even look you up, if I go to 4chan and curse at people in /b/ no one will link it to here. If I go to WoW forums or Democratic underground and mention this thread, no one will care about any of the personas here.
My clueless mother has been on the internet for 15 years and she's able to last while remaining clueless and the internet takes zero technical aptitude to access.
Zero. Click a button on your phone, iPad, Wii, Windows box and you are on the internet.
The US and UK patrolled the Slave Coast together.
From 1807 to 1820 it was Royal Navy, from 1820 to 1861 it was a joint patrol.
As for the theft, the issue here wasn't in finding the iPhone, it was that someone found the object, then turned around and sold it, which made it trafficking stolen goods.
As for the majority of countries not classifying this as theft, Germany does, the Commonwealth countries do, the United States does, in Japan its a miscellaneous offense, in New Zealand it's covered under the Secondhand Dealers and Pawnbrokers Act.
So prove that selling something you've stolen isn't against the law in all of these countries you claim.
Lets go to the Law of the Sea, because that's international and not bound by "anglosaxon origin".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotsam_and_jetsam
For this, because it has the link to a Mobile Me account, would be ligan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_salvage
If you lose something at sea (or in this case, a German bar), you have two years to claim it. Now the cost of salvaging it can be take against the value of the objects (in this case there was no cost of salvage, picking something up costs nothing), so Apple or the Engineer who lost the iPhone has two years to make a claim to get the iPhone back.
Note - there are not over 256 countries, there are 203 sovereign states and 192 of those are UN members.
Regarding Korea and Israel, Korea cost the US 38,00 dead, and 100,000 wounded and MIA, thats a hefty cost there and .7 to 1 billion dollars a year just to keep the bases up.
Yes, the Jewish political lobby is stronger than the Korean one.
As for the two-state solution, until the Palestinian Authority gives up on violence and all the talk of pushing the Jews into the sea (something they've been threatening since the 1930s), the Israeli people will not agree to a two-state solution.
The settlements are a political outlet because of the tension from the Al-Aqsa Intifada, Hezbollah and Gaza rocket attacks. The moderate governments and Likud is moderate are using the settlements to keep the Orthodox from really getting spun up and getting the government. Stop settlements and push the two-state solution while the Palestinians aren't going to disarm and Yisrael Beiteinu with Shas get more power, then you'll see the apartheid state.
All that aside, why is it's Israel's duty to allow a right of return when the Arab states and Iran will not allow Jews to return to their homelands in the region? We hear stories on NPR about an Arab whose land was taken during the 1948 and how the family pines to return to their house in East Jerusalem, but no one cares about the hundreds of thousands of Jews who lost everything they had in Baghdad, Tehran, Qom or Cairo.
1948 Israel declared independence with a call to the Palestinians to join the Jews and make a better place, the Palestinians and Arabs refused and lost the war, why is the burden on Israel to settle now?
The Eisengruppen were the special units of the SS that went around and killed Jews and other non desirable groups in the territories Germany occupied.
The kibbutz I lived on and the territory I was wounded in were bought from the Ottoman Empire between 1900-1914 and were Jewish territories under the Mandate, had the Arabs not attacked the Jews in 1947-1949 over Israeli independence, those lands were Israeli, so it wasn't an occupied territory, it was legally (Ottoman, Mandate, and UN partition plan) Israel.
That doesn't mean socialist, that means that costs went up.
Now if taxes had gone up with that spending increase and the state taking over more public sector enterprises, then it'd be socialist.
Now Obama's taking over Chrysler and GM and mandating changes there, that was socialism.
And you are assuming the vast bulk of internet users are some enlightened Übermensch when in fact 99.6% are farmvilling, trolling, AOL email checking n00bs who don't know what an IP number is.
They know how to get on Napster or Limewire, but don't have a clue how Bittorrent works and have never heard of the USENET.
So btards, Democratic Underground, Stormfront, Free Republic, the pedophile chatrooms, Truthers, Birthers, militant chatrooms, religious homeschooler groups, Anti-Vax folks, those are the most informed, up to date and active segment of the world?
Go over to the WoW Shaman forums when they announce a change in an upcoming patch and you'll see that you give people who log onto the Internet too much credit.
1. What does Saudi marriage law have to do with California's stance on property? Nothing at all, you might have well said "cats and dogs have a common ancestor so California's laws are poopy."
2. California's law on stolen property has held up in court for what, 140 years?
3. How does California's law on stolen property go against the majority of the world?
Looking around on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Receipt_of_stolen_property - it seems every US state has laws concerning this, so it's not just California's "bullshit law", so does Scotland and England. Besides, just because you leave something that doesn't eliminate your ownership of it or your claim to it.
Look at Jalopnik on the Toyota issues, first they were posting every accident and wondering aloud if Toyota's move to electronic links was the problem and once it got popularized in the media, they started defending Toyota.
At first they were calling it "Beige bites back." Now they are blaming old drivers.
And also the Roman centric nature of the society. It was a city-state that expanded wildly from what, 100 BCE to 100 CE with the bulk of the governance being rich Romans or rich generals.
Imagine what the US would have been like if Eisenhower and MacArther had returned from WW2 and fought over New York and DC with the war spoils of Germany and Japan.
Where is the crookery?
Some selling stolen property is the criminal part here.
"Under a California law dating back to 1872, any person who finds lost property and knows who the owner is likely to be but "appropriates such property to his own use" is guilty of theft. If the value of the property exceeds $400, more serious charges of grand theft can be filed. In addition, a second state law says any person who knowingly receives property that has been obtained illegally can be imprisoned for up to one year."
Gawker threw out all the journalist reputation they may have built up by outing the guy who had lost the device in question. They posted his personal information in exchange for some page views.
Gawker media isn't "the Press".
If they are so journalistic, why did they push out all the personal information about the guy who lost the iPhone?
Well, not all Republicans are Jesus Freaks anymore than all Democrats are Atheist Abortion freaks.
What exactly is the Jesus line?
As for Bush being the "biggest socialist" post World War Two, how is his platform any more socialist than Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson's Great Society or Nixon?
There needs to be higher income taxes on the top brackets, like we had in the 1950s, less taxing on the lower brackets, like we had when the income tax was developed, and tax things like tobacco, recreational drugs, gambling.
My support for Israel comes from a couple things. First, I'm Jewish, the majority of my European ancestors were killed by the Eisengruppen. Secondly, I lived there for a time on a secular kibbutz and in my time there I was wounded by Hezbollah.
Now, the peace-process has been imperiled ever since the Palestinians said 95% wasn't enough, so really was this extra endangered by what happened in March? I don't agree with the settlement system but Palestinians are not innocent when it comes to the peace process. Gaza was firing hundreds of missiles into Israel before Operation Cast Lead.
Beyond the heritage thing and my having lived in Israel, I support Israel because it is a industrious democracy in a region where industry and invention are rare. Outside of Israel and Lebanon which nations in the region aren't monarchies when it comes to succession? Libya and Egypt's heir apparent are the sons of the current leader, Syria already went that way, the Arab states are all monarchies except for Iraq. Yemen isn't going that way right now, but its a complicated mess there. Tunisia is a dictatorship, Algeria has semi-free elections.
From the State Department's page on Israel - http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3581.htm
"Israel has approximately the same number of companies listed on NASDAQ as the next three countries (Canada, Japan, and Ireland) combined."
So the US pulls support for Israel, Israel will either fall or they will be forced into another October War scenario, Israel has a smaller military than it did in 1973, with Iran about to go nuclear, Hezbollah and Syria getting IRBMs, Israel will someday use atomic weapons to survive. Israel falls or Israel survives, millions of refugees either way, hundred billion dollars of infrastructure lost and what is gained? Nothing at all.
Would the US let South Korea go without the II Corps defending it? Why did the US support South Korea or Taiwan when they've not run their countries the way we'd like them to? Because the strategic and economic investments are too great to let them fail.
And inbreeding, so as long as a clan from West Virginia or southern Utah doesn't assume the leadership of the US, we'll be better off than the Romans.
I don't vote for the GOP. I vote for the local politicians and state politicians who I agree with, they just usually happen to have an (R) by their name.
At the national level I vote for the following:
Gun-rights
Israel
War on Terror
National Defense/Security
In 1996 the national leader I voted for had a (D) by his name, I voted for Democratic Senators that were the right choice, like Johnson and Daschle from South Dakota, and later Thune over Daschle.
I'll read ballot measures through and generally vote for bonds that favor education and raising property taxes, I'm in favor of legalizing soft drugs and gambling, then taxing the hell out of them.
I don't give a whit about if something is socialist or not, that doesn't matter. But I care alot about how the welfare state ruins communities, like the welfare induced malaise of the Reservations, and I care about the 2nd Amendment.
Well, gambling at its base is a tax on people that can't do math, but sure, some of it will go to gambling addiction, but I hope more of it will go into things like missiles and tanks.
From a no taxes on tobacco site
http://www.nocigtax.com/tax-facts/where-does-the-money-go
I approve of all those uses for the money.
Not all Republicans fit into that description.
I'm a Republican, I don't like gambling because it just doesn't interest me, but I curse like a teamster, never go to a house of worship and my pr0n collection is vast. I'm not gay but I've met gay Republicans.
Many of us Republicans don't have religious morals, my fiancee's parents are militant atheists and are among the most conservative people I know.
The United States does have legalized gambling.
You've heard of Las Vegas maybe? Thats the big one, gambling is legal there. We have the entire state of Nevada too. There is Atlantic City New Jersey, the Indian Casinos scattered all over, riverboat gambling in a number of states, horse and dog betting and a host of other gambling types, which are legal some places and not legal in others.
Don't forget historical gambling locales like Deadwood South Dakota, Cripple Creek or Blackhawk Colorado.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Gaming_Regulatory_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_Issues
The addicts will gamble, with this the states and federal government will get monies to help deal with addiction.
No, its not that simple.
The People's Republic of China has the air defenses to maybe shoot down F-22s and B-2s if they get in range around Beijing and the nuclear weapon facilities. The rest of the PRC's air defenses can be (probably) penetrated with B-2s and F-22s, once the air defenses are taken out, then the non-stealthy aircraft will be able to target at will anything they want.
The DPRK only defends the leadership sites, the capital and the nuclear facilities, F-22s, B-1Bs, French Rafales, Eurofighter Typhoons and B-2s should be able to operate anywhere they want as the DPRK doesn't have as good of SAMs.
The US on the other hand...the only SAMs we have up for defense are Stinger missiles for the leadership sites, Patriots are deployed for super important events like the G-8, but otherwise Patriots are only deployed overseas and at the home of the US Army Air Defense Artillery base. Warships can be deployed to cover ports and coast cities.
As for price...well an ICBM is cheap compared to a plane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-30_Minuteman
7 million dollars in 1965
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGM-118_Peacekeeper
65-80 million dollars in 1985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35
200 million dollars in 2015