Man, you update yourself. Go ahead and open five tabs or whatever in Firefox, Opera and Konqueror. Check memory usage. Close the tabs except one. Check memory usage again. Then come back and talk about "5 more MB".
All browsers have problems. The difference here is that most other projects actually try to fix the problems they have, even if they are slow (even Microsoft!). But Firefox is completely ignoring it all and puts all focus on trying to keep up with some of the stuff in IE7.
These tests are not scientific, but they should give those Firefox lovers something to think about. I'm on Sabayon Linux, and I'm a Konqueror user.
First I fired up Firefox, and disabled the extensions I had (GSpace). I did not disable the DOM Inspector extension as it is included by default. I restarted Firefox and copied some stuff out of top. Then I opened up the same tabs that I had open in Konqueror at the time in Firefox (except of course the split view of my files). I waited for the CPU to settle down (!), and then copied another line out of top. Finally I closed all the tabs in Firefox except www.mozilla.org and noted down what top said. Look for yourselves.
Versions used: Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061117 Firefox/2.0 Konqueror: Konqueror 3.5.5, KDE 3.5.5
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Idle Firefox with DOM extension, one tab (www.mozilla.org)
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 16 0 169m 41m 22m S 0.0 8.2 0:11.39 firefox-bin
Idle Firefox, DOM extension. 7 tabs; mozilla.org,./ and a Google Image search.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 15 0 219m 64m 27m S 2.3 13.0 0:43.01 firefox-bin
Idle Firefox, DOM extensions, after closing 6 tabs.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 15 0 211m 64m 27m S 0.0 13.0 0:57.13 firefox-bin
Idle Konqueror, many plugins enabled. 7 open tabs; one split view, files,./ and a Google Image search. Many tabs had been opened and closed this day.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
12913 mir 15 0 80276 63m 22m S 0.0 12.8 1:16.75 konqueror
I was a Firefox users for years before I got fed up and switched to Opera. I'm now a happy Konqueror user. Konqueror does has some issues, but it is one hell of a browser.
First off, it is an American study we're talking about, so I don't think it surprises anyone that more than half of you guys believes in a deistic God. But if humans are biologically hardwired to believe in supernatural deity, then how come these figures do not apply to other places? The majority in Sweden and the rest of Northern Europe are atheists. Also, before Christianity delivered us from temptation and sin, people here believed in a system with many gods, similar to the Greeks.
Furthermore, I think most old 'native' religions have a completely different take on their place in nature, and I don't think for a second that you can call them deists.
So, humans may be "hardwired" to look for quick answers and authoritative figures, but we are NOT hardwired to believe in God. There's no excuse, now repent.
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The DMCA does NOT apply outside the US. I'm sure the rest of the world would be delighted to play DX10 games on WinXP and Linux.
Man, you update yourself. Go ahead and open five tabs or whatever in Firefox, Opera and Konqueror. Check memory usage. Close the tabs except one. Check memory usage again. Then come back and talk about "5 more MB". All browsers have problems. The difference here is that most other projects actually try to fix the problems they have, even if they are slow (even Microsoft!). But Firefox is completely ignoring it all and puts all focus on trying to keep up with some of the stuff in IE7.
These tests are not scientific, but they should give those Firefox lovers something to think about. I'm on Sabayon Linux, and I'm a Konqueror user.
First I fired up Firefox, and disabled the extensions I had (GSpace). I did not disable the DOM Inspector extension as it is included by default. I restarted Firefox and copied some stuff out of top. Then I opened up the same tabs that I had open in Konqueror at the time in Firefox (except of course the split view of my files). I waited for the CPU to settle down (!), and then copied another line out of top. Finally I closed all the tabs in Firefox except www.mozilla.org and noted down what top said. Look for yourselves.
Versions used:
Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061117 Firefox/2.0
Konqueror: Konqueror 3.5.5, KDE 3.5.5
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Idle Firefox with DOM extension, one tab (www.mozilla.org)
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 16 0 169m 41m 22m S 0.0 8.2 0:11.39 firefox-bin
Idle Firefox, DOM extension. 7 tabs; mozilla.org, ./ and a Google Image search.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 15 0 219m 64m 27m S 2.3 13.0 0:43.01 firefox-bin
Idle Firefox, DOM extensions, after closing 6 tabs.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
14697 mir 15 0 211m 64m 27m S 0.0 13.0 0:57.13 firefox-bin
Idle Konqueror, many plugins enabled. 7 open tabs; one split view, files, ./ and a Google Image search. Many tabs had been opened and closed this day.
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
12913 mir 15 0 80276 63m 22m S 0.0 12.8 1:16.75 konqueror
I was a Firefox users for years before I got fed up and switched to Opera. I'm now a happy Konqueror user. Konqueror does has some issues, but it is one hell of a browser.
First off, it is an American study we're talking about, so I don't think it surprises anyone that more than half of you guys believes in a deistic God. But if humans are biologically hardwired to believe in supernatural deity, then how come these figures do not apply to other places? The majority in Sweden and the rest of Northern Europe are atheists. Also, before Christianity delivered us from temptation and sin, people here believed in a system with many gods, similar to the Greeks. Furthermore, I think most old 'native' religions have a completely different take on their place in nature, and I don't think for a second that you can call them deists. So, humans may be "hardwired" to look for quick answers and authoritative figures, but we are NOT hardwired to believe in God. There's no excuse, now repent.