Can you give me a 2-year old cached version of Google so I can replicate the painful process it was to find and install an OSX version of Open Office?
Better yet, do you such an elegant solution for me for GIMP, because I've been trying for a long time now to get an easy install for it, but haven't yet.
I just have to say that I'm an OSX user, and don't use Office regularly and haven't since Office 97. When I recently had to use Office 2007 at work, I found it to be surprisingly good, mostly because I wasn't bringing years of bad MS UI expectations with me. In any case, it's much better than the OSX version (what little I've seen) for just figuring stuff out.
You are generalizing: "Ana Muhandis" is spoken Egyptian.
It's actually Modern Standard Arabic that goes for the entire Middle East/North Africa region. There's nothing in those two words that are specifically Egyptian.
And honestly, how would you know that they claim to be engineers just by being in an immersion program?
By definition...I was immersed with Arabs. Many of them are Engineers. They even teach it in the culture class--how engineering is an important cultural aspect. I've been doing this for 16 years so I know a lot of Engineers.
That's because you are trying to learn 2007 using your knowledge from 2003. If you try to learn 2007 as if you'd never known a Microsoft interface before, you'd be surprised at how easy it is. You are bringing a decade of bad UI experience into your expectations, which is skewing your opinion of 2007.
Flamebait? Really? You make an excellent point. I've tried Open Office and it isn't good enough to be worth the hassle. It's actually easier to find an Office torrent than it is to install a legit version of Open Office (or at least it was 2 years ago).
I'm a "Mac guy" and a usability expert (or at least that's how I make my paycheck), and as much as Microsoft misses the mark on good UI, Office2007 is no worse than previous attempts. There are actually usability improvements (albeit ones that stem from previous Microsoft-ian user interface elements..as long as you are familiar with the "microsoft way", the 2007 improvements are good).
I've tried several times to find an OSX version of GIMP that only requires a single installer (that actually works). I'd like to give it a try, but unless I can download an installer and double click it and be good-to-go, it's not worth my time, no matter how free or good it is.
Great post. It's the whole quantitative/qualitative argument all over again. Unfortunately for engineers, their way is so ingrained in them, they can't see things from a different view point. Their world-view is narrow and egocentric (which might explain the above-mentioned claim that engineers tend to gravitate to the right wing--a group also famous for narrow-minded egocentric world-views).
I studied Arabic in the Army's immersion program and I can tell you that most Arab males claim to be engineers (even if they aren't). It's one of the highest achievements in their culture. Ana Muhandis (I'm an engineer) is a common phrase and one of the first you learn.
IT does more than just handle our desktops. They issue travel laptops, configure labs via ghost servers, VMs, printers, networks, email servers (both big corporate and local office building), active directory stuff, SharePoint stuff, to name a few. Throw some configuration management and database stuff in there as well. We have classified and unclassified networks. I'm not even a developer and I have 5 systems. There's no way in hell 3-4 people could keep all our systems running.
I work for a software company with 500 people. We aren't allowed to do IT stuff (for good reason) just because we work in the software industry. We aren't IT, we are developers, testers, trainers, SEs, PEs, PMs, etc. etc. Therefore, we have a staff of about 25 IT guys who do all the IT work.
I think they are assuming that exploits in Adobe Acrobat Reader would not work if you use OSX Preview instead. Even though they view the same file, the way they go about it may (maybe, I don't know) prevent an exploit from working on Preview.
They keep saying it, but it hasn't happened. How popular does my Mac OS have to get before I see real threat? How popular do smart phones have to become before a real threat? Or, perhaps the best way to infect the most machines is to attack the easiest to exploit, not the most prevalent.
Can you give me a 2-year old cached version of Google so I can replicate the painful process it was to find and install an OSX version of Open Office?
Better yet, do you such an elegant solution for me for GIMP, because I've been trying for a long time now to get an easy install for it, but haven't yet.
I just have to say that I'm an OSX user, and don't use Office regularly and haven't since Office 97. When I recently had to use Office 2007 at work, I found it to be surprisingly good, mostly because I wasn't bringing years of bad MS UI expectations with me. In any case, it's much better than the OSX version (what little I've seen) for just figuring stuff out.
I wouldn't know, as I'm slightly left or right of center, depending on the cause.
You are generalizing: "Ana Muhandis" is spoken Egyptian.
It's actually Modern Standard Arabic that goes for the entire Middle East/North Africa region. There's nothing in those two words that are specifically Egyptian.
And honestly, how would you know that they claim to be engineers just by being in an immersion program?
By definition...I was immersed with Arabs. Many of them are Engineers. They even teach it in the culture class--how engineering is an important cultural aspect. I've been doing this for 16 years so I know a lot of Engineers.
but with the wide availability of pdf 'printer' programs I don't see this as a feature at all.
I like my pdf printer program -- it's called OSX.
That's because you are trying to learn 2007 using your knowledge from 2003. If you try to learn 2007 as if you'd never known a Microsoft interface before, you'd be surprised at how easy it is. You are bringing a decade of bad UI experience into your expectations, which is skewing your opinion of 2007.
Flamebait? Really? You make an excellent point. I've tried Open Office and it isn't good enough to be worth the hassle. It's actually easier to find an Office torrent than it is to install a legit version of Open Office (or at least it was 2 years ago).
I'm a "Mac guy" and a usability expert (or at least that's how I make my paycheck), and as much as Microsoft misses the mark on good UI, Office2007 is no worse than previous attempts. There are actually usability improvements (albeit ones that stem from previous Microsoft-ian user interface elements..as long as you are familiar with the "microsoft way", the 2007 improvements are good).
I've tried several times to find an OSX version of GIMP that only requires a single installer (that actually works). I'd like to give it a try, but unless I can download an installer and double click it and be good-to-go, it's not worth my time, no matter how free or good it is.
Exactly. This is especially true in Mid Eastern (Arab) cultures. Everyone is an engineer.
Great post. It's the whole quantitative/qualitative argument all over again. Unfortunately for engineers, their way is so ingrained in them, they can't see things from a different view point. Their world-view is narrow and egocentric (which might explain the above-mentioned claim that engineers tend to gravitate to the right wing--a group also famous for narrow-minded egocentric world-views).
Hah, as a former Intel soldier, all I can say is I never met a sapper that was half as intelligent as my lowest ranking squad member ;-)
... the unusual tendency of engineers towards right-wing radicalism seems universal.
That is an interesting finding. Seems that the far-right doesn't really value science and intellect -- prerequisites for being a good engineer.
Except for many terrorists come from countries that aren't oil-rich--Yemen, for example.
I studied Arabic in the Army's immersion program and I can tell you that most Arab males claim to be engineers (even if they aren't). It's one of the highest achievements in their culture. Ana Muhandis (I'm an engineer) is a common phrase and one of the first you learn.
Oh, I didn't read it. I just counted sentences.
IT does more than just handle our desktops. They issue travel laptops, configure labs via ghost servers, VMs, printers, networks, email servers (both big corporate and local office building), active directory stuff, SharePoint stuff, to name a few. Throw some configuration management and database stuff in there as well. We have classified and unclassified networks. I'm not even a developer and I have 5 systems. There's no way in hell 3-4 people could keep all our systems running.
Most people know who Steve Jobs is. Not many people know who the CEO of Google is. Hell, I hang out on slashdot and I don't even know.
We call them "The 1980s" because every year in the decade we call The 1980s had an 80 in it. 1990 is not the last year of the 1980s.
I'd like to take the time machine back and buy 1,000 MORE shares than I already did ;-)
I clicked the link and got six sentences. Is this what qualifies as slashdot newsworthy these days?
I work for a software company with 500 people. We aren't allowed to do IT stuff (for good reason) just because we work in the software industry. We aren't IT, we are developers, testers, trainers, SEs, PEs, PMs, etc. etc. Therefore, we have a staff of about 25 IT guys who do all the IT work.
If they give them to you and you don't have to go out and buy work clothes, then I'd wear one!
I think they are assuming that exploits in Adobe Acrobat Reader would not work if you use OSX Preview instead. Even though they view the same file, the way they go about it may (maybe, I don't know) prevent an exploit from working on Preview.
First of all, "nightmare" is hyperbole. Maybe it isn't as bad as Chicken Little says.
They keep saying it, but it hasn't happened. How popular does my Mac OS have to get before I see real threat? How popular do smart phones have to become before a real threat? Or, perhaps the best way to infect the most machines is to attack the easiest to exploit, not the most prevalent.
"Flash to be top hacker target" has a far different connotation than "we anticipate...".