The entire point of a GUI is to facilitate input devices like mice, keyboards, trackpads, those pen-thingies, trackballs, etc. For example, I use a mouse and a trackpad (running Lion dev 4) because of the various gestures available with those two device. In addition, I use a keyboard, because it's the best way to input text (duh).
People who complain about GUIs and lament the diminishing use of the command line are doing so because of a poorly designed GUIs or personal baggage they bring to the plate. Of course people are going to prefer the way they know, even if it isn't as good as the new way.
Of course command line is better for some things for some people, but the overwhelming majority of things average users do with a computer are better achieved via a GUI. There's no shame in using a GUI and there's no extra nerd cred for going command line, because being a geek stopped being new about 15 years ago.
Please name one feature (not enterprise based) in OSX that requires a command line? I'm sure there might be a couple, but I'd like to hear what they are. I've been on OS X since beta, and have never once typed anything into a command line.
My personal thought is use Apple for electronics toys if you like them (like phones and tablets) but avoid them for work because they are not focused on that market anymore.
You realize that Apple, Inc. uses nothing but Macs for work, right? Last I checked, they are doing just fine as a business (in spite of their poor IT choices, I presume?)
You couldn't load Word 2007 files into Word 2003 without going online and finding some cumbersome filter thingy. You STILL can't do it with 2010 without the same filter thingy, but at least they've made the filter thingy easier to get.
Interestingly enough for the 6 month period or so none of us could open our Word 2007 files without upgrading to 2007, my iPhone could open the 2007 file just fine. Interesting, that.
Um, no, the iPhone lacked those features in order to get to market in a competitive fashion. Most the imitators also lacked copy and paste in v1.0. This is not a design priority, this is a business priority.
Resume, Mission Control, and versioning are worth the price of the upgrade. I'd say those features alone are worth 4x the upgrade price (as in I'd pay the traditional $120 or so for this update). AirDrop is pretty cool too in an office environment.
Which is why they should deploy FCPX on one or two workstations, and let their editors play with it for awhile before deciding if it is a good thing for them.
Or they can just read the feature list on the marketing page at Apple.com, or the reviews...just avoid the insanely polarizing commentary on slashdot when making a decision.
No, the newest Apple mice have no scroll wheel, as the entire surface of the mouse can accept scrolling and gestures. It's a great feature but a terrible form factor (typical from Apple mouse design teams).
So again, the people bitching about Apple mice can't get their facts straight. No wonder they keep perpetuating myths about Apple products...they don't know what they are talking about for starters.
STOP with the one button mouse garbage. Apple hasn't made a single button mouse since July of 2000. So NO, they don't "keep making these mice with one button". And even when they made one button mice, the OS supported multiple button third part mice since, I don't really remember, but probably OS 7.6?
If you are going to criticize something about a company's decision, make it relevant (i.e. something in the past couple of years, not something from 11 years ago) and make it something that doesn't have an easy work around (like buying a $20 USB third party mouse).
If I never see another one-button mouse post again, I'll die a happy person.
One button mouse was not a mistake, originally, but continuing to manufacture them even when their OS natively supported multi-buttons, was dumb. In the beginning, when computers were new and "hard", the one button made perfect since...until about 1990.
Gil wasn't the mistake, Sculley was. Gil was the Fall Guy.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 and have no idea what Frog boy is?
Sytem 7.6 was their best OS until X.1, so I'm not sure how that was a mistake.
My take on notorious Apple mistakes: Cube, hockey puck mouse, no mid range tower from early 2000s to present, and Final Cut Pro X.
Please elaborate how App has gone in the shitter. They make the best OS on the market, in my and many others' opinions.
I recently changed jobs from a Dell/Windows stuffy business environment to a Mac and OSX only stuffy business environment, and the increased productivity with all Macs is indescribable. We don't even have an IT "department"...we have a few guys that can give us the passwords or privileges we need in order to administer whatever it is we need on our own machines.
I always had a sneaky suspicion that all Macs at work would be exponentially more productive, learning curve and retraining included, and boy was I more than right.
Um, how so? I've been on the dev release for dev 3 and 4 now. It's got some bugs still, but it's probably the biggest OS X upgrade in the lifecycle of the product.
All criminals are not equal. Attitudes like yours are why our prison systems are overflowing. Plus I think the other post is correct...it's not a crime.
The ATV2 is a serious step backward from my ATV1 in almost every measure other than physical size. It has extremely poor connectivity and doesn't even link to a Mac any more. It's a reasonable $99 Netflix box, but so are many TV's.
Price. I waited years for the $99 price point. And my ATV2 is connected to my Mac via iTunes.
I'm confused on two points: what's Apple doing that prevents any other company from "vendor lock" business practices, and who ever promised you should be able to play your content on any device ever?
Others are free to build an iTunes ecosystem, AppleTV device, and a TV. I'm not sure what Apple has done to be anti-competitive other than make really good products that people want to buy.
What has Apple done that prevents other from doing the sam
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The entire point of a GUI is to facilitate input devices like mice, keyboards, trackpads, those pen-thingies, trackballs, etc. For example, I use a mouse and a trackpad (running Lion dev 4) because of the various gestures available with those two device. In addition, I use a keyboard, because it's the best way to input text (duh).
People who complain about GUIs and lament the diminishing use of the command line are doing so because of a poorly designed GUIs or personal baggage they bring to the plate. Of course people are going to prefer the way they know, even if it isn't as good as the new way.
Of course command line is better for some things for some people, but the overwhelming majority of things average users do with a computer are better achieved via a GUI. There's no shame in using a GUI and there's no extra nerd cred for going command line, because being a geek stopped being new about 15 years ago.
Another reason to rethink photo storage on Facebook? As if the small image size and low quality weren't enough reasons already?
I'm guessing the people who view Facebook as a photo storage tool are the same people who think cell phone cameras are actually pretty good.
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Mark my words: There is an Apple disaster brewing, the likes we have never seen.
No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Please name one feature (not enterprise based) in OSX that requires a command line? I'm sure there might be a couple, but I'd like to hear what they are. I've been on OS X since beta, and have never once typed anything into a command line.
My personal thought is use Apple for electronics toys if you like them (like phones and tablets) but avoid them for work because they are not focused on that market anymore.
You realize that Apple, Inc. uses nothing but Macs for work, right? Last I checked, they are doing just fine as a business (in spite of their poor IT choices, I presume?)
You couldn't load Word 2007 files into Word 2003 without going online and finding some cumbersome filter thingy. You STILL can't do it with 2010 without the same filter thingy, but at least they've made the filter thingy easier to get.
Interestingly enough for the 6 month period or so none of us could open our Word 2007 files without upgrading to 2007, my iPhone could open the 2007 file just fine. Interesting, that.
Um, no, the iPhone lacked those features in order to get to market in a competitive fashion. Most the imitators also lacked copy and paste in v1.0. This is not a design priority, this is a business priority.
Resume, Mission Control, and versioning are worth the price of the upgrade. I'd say those features alone are worth 4x the upgrade price (as in I'd pay the traditional $120 or so for this update). AirDrop is pretty cool too in an office environment.
Which is why they should deploy FCPX on one or two workstations, and let their editors play with it for awhile before deciding if it is a good thing for them.
Or they can just read the feature list on the marketing page at Apple.com, or the reviews...just avoid the insanely polarizing commentary on slashdot when making a decision.
If you want to point to a modern Apple design flaw, look no further than the iMac: the USB ports are on the back for some ungodly reason.
Which is why their input devices are offered in wireless, and there are USB ports on the keyboard.
No, the newest Apple mice have no scroll wheel, as the entire surface of the mouse can accept scrolling and gestures. It's a great feature but a terrible form factor (typical from Apple mouse design teams).
So again, the people bitching about Apple mice can't get their facts straight. No wonder they keep perpetuating myths about Apple products...they don't know what they are talking about for starters.
STOP with the one button mouse garbage. Apple hasn't made a single button mouse since July of 2000. So NO, they don't "keep making these mice with one button". And even when they made one button mice, the OS supported multiple button third part mice since, I don't really remember, but probably OS 7.6?
If you are going to criticize something about a company's decision, make it relevant (i.e. something in the past couple of years, not something from 11 years ago) and make it something that doesn't have an easy work around (like buying a $20 USB third party mouse).
If I never see another one-button mouse post again, I'll die a happy person.
One button mouse was not a mistake, originally, but continuing to manufacture them even when their OS natively supported multi-buttons, was dumb. In the beginning, when computers were new and "hard", the one button made perfect since...until about 1990.
Gil wasn't the mistake, Sculley was. Gil was the Fall Guy.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 and have no idea what Frog boy is?
Sytem 7.6 was their best OS until X.1, so I'm not sure how that was a mistake.
My take on notorious Apple mistakes: Cube, hockey puck mouse, no mid range tower from early 2000s to present, and Final Cut Pro X.
Please elaborate how App has gone in the shitter. They make the best OS on the market, in my and many others' opinions.
I recently changed jobs from a Dell/Windows stuffy business environment to a Mac and OSX only stuffy business environment, and the increased productivity with all Macs is indescribable. We don't even have an IT "department"...we have a few guys that can give us the passwords or privileges we need in order to administer whatever it is we need on our own machines.
I always had a sneaky suspicion that all Macs at work would be exponentially more productive, learning curve and retraining included, and boy was I more than right.
Um, how so? I've been on the dev release for dev 3 and 4 now. It's got some bugs still, but it's probably the biggest OS X upgrade in the lifecycle of the product.
All criminals are not equal. Attitudes like yours are why our prison systems are overflowing. Plus I think the other post is correct...it's not a crime.
More importantly, why is Arizona bringing this up in a conversation about federal authority?
You are confusing assembly with engineering. Apple engineers everything they make, which is the hard part.
WEll you don't get locked into something if you didn't have the urge to buy it in the first place.
Oh yeah. And actually I think I was thinking of Amelio who nearly killed the company, or maybe he was just the fall guy after Sculley's shenanigans?
The ATV2 is a serious step backward from my ATV1 in almost every measure other than physical size. It has extremely poor connectivity and doesn't even link to a Mac any more. It's a reasonable $99 Netflix box, but so are many TV's.
Price. I waited years for the $99 price point. And my ATV2 is connected to my Mac via iTunes.
I'm confused on two points: what's Apple doing that prevents any other company from "vendor lock" business practices, and who ever promised you should be able to play your content on any device ever?
Ah yes...we want Apple to be normal. Like when the Coca-Cola CEO tried to run it like a commodity business and we got crap.
Apple isn't normal. Apple fails at normal (see 1993-1997).
Others are free to build an iTunes ecosystem, AppleTV device, and a TV. I'm not sure what Apple has done to be anti-competitive other than make really good products that people want to buy.
What has Apple done that prevents other from doing the sam
Waving is already patented by those obnoxious paper towel dispensers in airports.