I think your arithmetic stopped a bit early. McDonalds + Wendys + Arbys + a zillion other fast food resterants + VFW's + Schools + all the unused farm land and this is just a drop in the bucket.
If you look at the research section of the Frybrid website you'll see that Jon H. Van Gerpen Professor of Mechanical Engineering, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Iowa State University, Ames, IA agrees. In some of his papers there he states the reason why he used a particular oil..."Soybean oil was chosen because, in the United States, soybean oil is the only oil that is available in sufficient quantity to supply a national market."...
By the way, If McDonalds starts selling used veg oil for the same as new, wouldn't you buy the new and not have to filter it? Of course this take us to basic economics, which probably should be understood first before making such a comment
You guys should really ask questions and think this stuff out before you just start typing "statements of fact". Talk to some people that actually do it instead of guessing.
Phantomlord, I have converted my vehicle to run on WVO and I have mixed feelings about your comments.
I apologize for the greaser who had you jumping through hoops to supply him with oil. Obviously he missed the greaser code of ethics meeting.
Your comment "Fossil fuels aren't all that renewable but it costs nearly nothing to extract it from the ground". No way! How much do you think exploration, building oil rigs (on and off land),transportation costs from the middle east to your tank?
"Cost of farming", Have you taken into consideration the use of their own carbon neutral VO in their already diesel equipment.
The farmers should farm, not be subsidized.
From Nicolas Heidorn San Francisco Chronicle
"From 1995 to 2002 the U.S. taxpayer doled out more than $114 billion to farmers, and in 2002 President Bush upped subsidies to $190 billion over the next 10 years. For perspective, consider that in the year 2000 alone, U.S. spending on farm subsidies exceeded the gross domestic product of more than 70 nations, based on federal government figures."
"i don't think it will have any real application" Are you kidding me? You guys have totally missed the point. Think outside the box. We are not limited to waste vegetable oil. You can already buy food grade vegetable oil at sams club for $2.88 a gallon. Just think if instead of paying farmers to not plant anything on there land. Instead they grew soybeans. Soybeans to non-food grade Vegetable Oil. Vegetable Oil might not only "offset" our dependence on foriegn oil, but delete it. If you look at the research section of the Frybrid website you'll see that Jon H. Van Gerpen Professor of Mechanical Engineering, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Iowa State University, Ames, IA agrees. In some of his papers there he states the reason why he used a particular oil..."Soybean oil was chosen because, in the United States, soybean oil is the only oil that is available in sufficient quantity to supply a national market."... WOW!, goodbye petro.
FYI: I have converted my truck to vegetable oil and yes it does smell like it. The smell however is no stonger than that of petro diesel. Simply put, you only smell it at a standstill and I would rather smell VO than petro.
They call VO carbon neutral because it just becomes part of the natural cycle. Plants absorb carbon in the air, plants release carbon back into the air when they die, either through decomposition or burned in engine.
On the other hand, petro burns carbon from fossil fuels that have been stored for millions of years causing the present imbalance.
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I think your arithmetic stopped a bit early. McDonalds + Wendys + Arbys + a zillion other fast food resterants + VFW's + Schools + all the unused farm land and this is just a drop in the bucket.
If you look at the research section of the Frybrid website you'll see that Jon H. Van Gerpen Professor of Mechanical Engineering, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Iowa State University, Ames, IA agrees. In some of his papers there he states the reason why he used a particular oil..."Soybean oil was chosen because, in the United States, soybean oil is the only oil that is available in sufficient quantity to supply a national market."...
By the way, If McDonalds starts selling used veg oil for the same as new, wouldn't you buy the new and not have to filter it? Of course this take us to basic economics, which probably should be understood first before making such a comment
You guys should really ask questions and think this stuff out before you just start typing "statements of fact". Talk to some people that actually do it instead of guessing.
"From 1995 to 2002 the U.S. taxpayer doled out more than $114 billion to farmers, and in 2002 President Bush upped subsidies to $190 billion over the next 10 years. For perspective, consider that in the year 2000 alone, U.S. spending on farm subsidies exceeded the gross domestic product of more than 70 nations, based on federal government figures."
You seem quick to nay say.
"i don't think it will have any real application" Are you kidding me? You guys have totally missed the point. Think outside the box. We are not limited to waste vegetable oil. You can already buy food grade vegetable oil at sams club for $2.88 a gallon. Just think if instead of paying farmers to not plant anything on there land. Instead they grew soybeans. Soybeans to non-food grade Vegetable Oil. Vegetable Oil might not only "offset" our dependence on foriegn oil, but delete it. If you look at the research section of the Frybrid website you'll see that Jon H. Van Gerpen Professor of Mechanical Engineering, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Iowa State University, Ames, IA agrees. In some of his papers there he states the reason why he used a particular oil..."Soybean oil was chosen because, in the United States, soybean oil is the only oil that is available in sufficient quantity to supply a national market."... WOW!, goodbye petro.
FYI: I have converted my truck to vegetable oil and yes it does smell like it. The smell however is no stonger than that of petro diesel. Simply put, you only smell it at a standstill and I would rather smell VO than petro.
They call VO carbon neutral because it just becomes part of the natural cycle. Plants absorb carbon in the air, plants release carbon back into the air when they die, either through decomposition or burned in engine.
On the other hand, petro burns carbon from fossil fuels that have been stored for millions of years causing the present imbalance.