Yeah, it's like that with my GF's parents. They drive fords. I drive a 93 XJ jeep ( a little modified) and an Audi TT Roadster 225 when it's nice out. And I have to put up with this stuff cuz I park in the driveway. I just tell them, If you like to walk that walk, put your money where your mouth is and we'll take SUV vs truck and Sports car Vs sports car to end this argument:) Naturally that F150 2wheel drive isn't a chance. even for towing. And that mustang GT. pfffffft come on:) The jeep vs GT is a better comparision:)
These PDA's need to be totaly wireless with REAL TCP/IP and connected 24/7. Have atleast 24 hours of non stop useage and about a month of stand by time. Still be in some sort of net communication also. Other wise it's not that usefull except a note pad that is very conservative on papper.
If the RIAA didn't spend all kinds of money on lawers wasting their time. They would have even more money to sit on and do nothing with. I mean. feeding the homeless might be nice thing to do with atleast 1/100th of their profits ya know.
by no means is that RICED-UP. that jeep on all motor will take a cobra stang to the cleaners 0-60 and have time for lunch at the end the 1/4 mile (it' runs 13.8's all day long in 2-wheel drive with those tires you C on the car, never 1/4 miled it in 4/wheel drive, I prolly bust that x-fer case). And, yes, it's the same 4.0 6-inline. just rebuilt nicly. plans are for a blower this summer. Orignal goal was to beat a vette and drive over it and crush it, that will happen with the blower.
heck I should get a set of slicks for it when it gets warm out and they open up the race track. I bet I'll take a second off the 1/4 mile time easly.
I got into a minor fender bender the other day. and it was my fault some how. Anyways, I was giving the cop my information and what not and I look and I see Windows9x on his laptop. I go, "I thought you guys used a special system, not windows, How stable is it?" Officer goes "It crashes all the fucking time, why do you think I'm writting the report up on papper!":) I chuckled and accepetd my ticket.. it was an old lady that I was involved with and I'm hoping she doesn't go to court and all is forgotten except for hte dammage on my poor 93' XJ.:(.
Or, athlon it self in single mode. Here is a quick test I did this morning my self with my SMP system
Supermicro P6DGE
PC100 512meg ram (this shouldn't matter since 256 is enuff, and the athlon machine had 256)
2 PIII-750's
I did things the same with the same kernel as listed on the web site.
first compile, didn't even do 'make dep' since the web site stated that he didn't do 'make dep'. TIME that is took was 5:19 Not bad at for a CPU that is 450mhz SLOWER. Then I was thinking cache. since I had lots of ram I ran the single compile again. and as expected much faster, infact This time I blew that athlon outa the water. 3:52 seconds (the single compile on the athlon was 4:51).
now, the DUAL CPU compile for me was 2:16.
with these numbers, I'm assuming that the first compile that athlon did was infact not cached. That means it's NO WHERE NEAR 142% faster in dual mode. infact that's impossible. just look at my first 2 single CPU compiles, the second one was 1:27 seconds faster.:)
in dual mode, naturally, the compile was done after data was cached, hence the 147%. ya know It's to early to do the math to figure the exact percentages. But it HAS TO BE a little over 100% faster for the ahtlon after you figure in cache I'm assuming. Because you look at my compile time in SMP, it is just a little more then 100% faster
here is the time output from my SMP compile
real 2m18.217s
user 3m51.580s
sys 0m18.560s
note: the user, just about the same as my sinlge CPU compile.:)
What does this prove? That the athlon isn't that much better or the intel isn't much better then each other. Infact with this data, I would have to take intel over athlon cuz the athlon is slow here. Yeah were not compairing apples to apples, but a human can C that the extra 450mhz doesn't yeild much at all, expecially in SMP. So that Ahtlon motherboad and CPU combo's better be 1/2 the cost of the intel for my to buy it. I mean, Y would I buy an SMP 1.2GHz athlon system, that performs as good at a 850mhz SMP intel system (assuming number were almost the same if I added 100mhz to my CPU's).
Well, this is the conclusion I came to. Seal with it.
:)
And yes, this athlon system is still beta, I know that. It could get faster by release time.
to get ya going in the morning. Well, this is the second laugh. Looking to switch to a cheaper DSL provider and this guy that uses the same backen as we are using directly (rhythms.net) trying to tell me that the DSL line won't go faster then 256k (when the first 2 days I had this line it was set at T1 speed and was getting 150K up and down at the same time (300K total) I kepted my mouth shut tho).
The the guy had the nerve to assume that a small shop like us was using NT and exchange for I-net services. prolly was trying to sell us a www and mail services also. And when I chuckled at that, he went on to suggest a MAC SOLUTION?!?!?!?!
He wasn't surpised when I said all linux based.:)
when will ppl learn that most Inet companies that are serious about business don't use windows!
That's $70,000 a day income (with 14 mill searched a day). about 2.1 mill a month. cut that in half when ppl figure out they gota pay to use google. that's still ALOT for a small company like google with only 120 ppl. now 1/8 or even 1/10 a cent would be enuff money to keep things afloat solong there is no annoying banner adds.. I might pay that since I don't use search egines much and if I do I use 2 or 3 at a time to compair results...
This just fucking about time ROCKS....
I'm going out right now and buying a 17" monitor that can do 1280X1024 at a nice refresh. I do both. sysadmin and dev. I have a bunch of apps running displaying system usage. and then there's XFMAIL, gaim, Xchat, and other misc things that keep loaded all the time... This way I can monitor thoese things with out cluttering up the desktop
Currently I'm running with a 19" monitor with 1600X1200. things get messy. real messy. this will just make things more simple and productive.
What would be really cool is if I nca drag things from display:0.1 to:0.0 and vice-versa... is that possible?
Yet another cool thing would be to get several G200's. and USB keyboards's and mice to match the amount of G200's/monitors.... and have a nice full color. ful mouse terminal system.:).. once 3D stuff is set... you hook all this up to a quad XEON machine and you can have one machien with 6 ppl doing graphic design or something:).
I My self used to get tired really fast and hence not able to stay awake and code. I do carpentry 3 days a weeks. (it's not the usual stuff, not the get up and be at work at 6:30am crap I used to do full time but more of a get up and show up around 10ish type:). I would do that those days and take it easy once I got home. The next day I would not work carpentry but not be able to code and work on my company I'd still sleep 16 hours of the day and couldn't think when I was awake.
So I ask my buddy what kinda drugs should I take to stay awake (he's a heath buff as well as a kick butt graphic artist that lives eats breaths GIMP). He said to run 2 miles a day. Wake up and run (jog, walk). Get oxygen flowing. I been doing just that. I have to say here I'm not over weight or not outa shape. I look like I weight train and run 10 miles a day but that's just from working carpentry full time (I recently changed to part time bit 8 months ago). I'm not in any shape to run a marathon and I start to struggle after 2 miles (give me a month and 10 miles will be easy:).
And, well what does this all mean? it means I can get away with 6 hours of sleep and be fully awake the rest of the day. Once or twice a week You gota get that 8 to 12 hour sleep to remain healthy but you eat right and exercise you can stay awake and think clearly. Sure this isn't the best answer to coders block but it's just common since. Most people that sit at a computer are not the heathest. Take my brother for example. He went to nationals for high school cross country. Was in the top 100. Got a computer tech support job 2 years after HighSchool and he put on 60 pounds in a year. he's losing a lot of it but still. It's in my blood so I kinda gota start watching my self since I'm 2 years outa school now:)
And those of you guys n' gals with indoor dog's. Take them for a walk. They'll love you a bit more:)
scsi harddrive average 10meg/sec.. my U2W 7200 baracudda 18 gig maxes at 14Meg/sec if I'm lucky... but on a RAID with 7 drives I can get 80meg/sec for the 32-bit SCSI card.. up that to 64-bit scsi card I can get 160meg/sec with another 7 drives.... (naturally speed is faster with faster RPM drives but that's like a 1mec/sec or 2 faster) so for one server to even max out a gigabit NIC you need in the neighborhood of 10 to 14 U2W 7200 drives. not to mention a few megs of scsi adapter cache and a few gigs of main memory to give the RAID a rest every now and then:)
...does anyone with out the proper account information pay for a domain name they don't own.. Does this mean I can go pay for the renewal of ibm.com if I felt like it? or some one pay for my domains? Isn't this a security issue also? last time I messed with this kinda stuff I needed to have a working e-mail address to modify and verify changes. hmmmmmmmmmm
Finally.. a linux Window manger that stacks up slightly to OS/2's WPS legacy.. IceWM 1.0 together with DFM. You can't beat this combo for ultimate productivity. Now if some one would make an IRC client for X that is as good as GT-IRC (OS/2 client) or even mIRC. -- Jason
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah, it's like that with my GF's parents. They drive fords. I drive a 93 XJ jeep ( a little modified) and an Audi TT Roadster 225 when it's nice out. And I have to put up with this stuff cuz I park in the driveway. I just tell them, If you like to walk that walk, put your money where your mouth is and we'll take SUV vs truck and Sports car Vs sports car to end this argument :) Naturally that F150 2wheel drive isn't a chance. even for towing. And that mustang GT. pfffffft come on :) The jeep vs GT is a better comparision :)
These PDA's need to be totaly wireless with REAL TCP/IP and connected 24/7. Have atleast 24 hours of non stop useage and about a month of stand by time. Still be in some sort of net communication also. Other wise it's not that usefull except a note pad that is very conservative on papper.
If the RIAA didn't spend all kinds of money on lawers wasting their time. They would have even more money to sit on and do nothing with. I mean. feeding the homeless might be nice thing to do with atleast 1/100th of their profits ya know.
by no means is that RICED-UP. that jeep on all motor will take a cobra stang to the cleaners 0-60 and have time for lunch at the end the 1/4 mile (it' runs 13.8's all day long in 2-wheel drive with those tires you C on the car, never 1/4 miled it in 4/wheel drive, I prolly bust that x-fer case). And, yes, it's the same 4.0 6-inline. just rebuilt nicly. plans are for a blower this summer. Orignal goal was to beat a vette and drive over it and crush it, that will happen with the blower.
heck I should get a set of slicks for it when it gets warm out and they open up the race track. I bet I'll take a second off the 1/4 mile time easly.
I got into a minor fender bender the other day. and it was my fault some how. Anyways, I was giving the cop my information and what not and I look and I see Windows9x on his laptop. I go, "I thought you guys used a special system, not windows, How stable is it?" Officer goes "It crashes all the fucking time, why do you think I'm writting the report up on papper!" :) I chuckled and accepetd my ticket.. it was an old lady that I was involved with and I'm hoping she doesn't go to court and all is forgotten except for hte dammage on my poor 93' XJ. :(.
Pictured here
And here
There is no 'make dep' anywhere in that artice at all he NEVER DID 'make dep'. do a 'find in page'
Or, athlon it self in single mode. Here is a quick test I did this morning my self with my SMP system
:)
:)
:)
Supermicro P6DGE
PC100 512meg ram (this shouldn't matter since 256 is enuff, and the athlon machine had 256)
2 PIII-750's
I did things the same with the same kernel as listed on the web site.
first compile, didn't even do 'make dep' since the web site stated that he didn't do 'make dep'. TIME that is took was 5:19 Not bad at for a CPU that is 450mhz SLOWER. Then I was thinking cache. since I had lots of ram I ran the single compile again. and as expected much faster, infact This time I blew that athlon outa the water. 3:52 seconds (the single compile on the athlon was 4:51).
now, the DUAL CPU compile for me was 2:16.
with these numbers, I'm assuming that the first compile that athlon did was infact not cached. That means it's NO WHERE NEAR 142% faster in dual mode. infact that's impossible. just look at my first 2 single CPU compiles, the second one was 1:27 seconds faster.
in dual mode, naturally, the compile was done after data was cached, hence the 147%. ya know It's to early to do the math to figure the exact percentages. But it HAS TO BE a little over 100% faster for the ahtlon after you figure in cache I'm assuming. Because you look at my compile time in SMP, it is just a little more then 100% faster
here is the time output from my SMP compile
real 2m18.217s
user 3m51.580s
sys 0m18.560s
note: the user, just about the same as my sinlge CPU compile.
What does this prove? That the athlon isn't that much better or the intel isn't much better then each other. Infact with this data, I would have to take intel over athlon cuz the athlon is slow here. Yeah were not compairing apples to apples, but a human can C that the extra 450mhz doesn't yeild much at all, expecially in SMP. So that Ahtlon motherboad and CPU combo's better be 1/2 the cost of the intel for my to buy it. I mean, Y would I buy an SMP 1.2GHz athlon system, that performs as good at a 850mhz SMP intel system (assuming number were almost the same if I added 100mhz to my CPU's).
Well, this is the conclusion I came to. Seal with it.
And yes, this athlon system is still beta, I know that. It could get faster by release time.
get my own IPv6 subnet? Or does it already cost money to 'lease' your part.
Men are from MACS, women are from VMS :)
to get ya going in the morning. Well, this is the second laugh. Looking to switch to a cheaper DSL provider and this guy that uses the same backen as we are using directly (rhythms.net) trying to tell me that the DSL line won't go faster then 256k (when the first 2 days I had this line it was set at T1 speed and was getting 150K up and down at the same time (300K total) I kepted my mouth shut tho).
:)
The the guy had the nerve to assume that a small shop like us was using NT and exchange for I-net services. prolly was trying to sell us a www and mail services also. And when I chuckled at that, he went on to suggest a MAC SOLUTION?!?!?!?!
He wasn't surpised when I said all linux based.
when will ppl learn that most Inet companies that are serious about business don't use windows!
That's $70,000 a day income (with 14 mill searched a day). about 2.1 mill a month. cut that in half when ppl figure out they gota pay to use google. that's still ALOT for a small company like google with only 120 ppl. now 1/8 or even 1/10 a cent would be enuff money to keep things afloat solong there is no annoying banner adds.. I might pay that since I don't use search egines much and if I do I use 2 or 3 at a time to compair results...
This just fucking about time ROCKS.... I'm going out right now and buying a 17" monitor that can do 1280X1024 at a nice refresh. I do both. sysadmin and dev. I have a bunch of apps running displaying system usage. and then there's XFMAIL, gaim, Xchat, and other misc things that keep loaded all the time... This way I can monitor thoese things with out cluttering up the desktop Currently I'm running with a 19" monitor with 1600X1200. things get messy. real messy. this will just make things more simple and productive. What would be really cool is if I nca drag things from display :0.1 to :0.0 and vice-versa... is that possible?
Yet another cool thing would be to get several G200's. and USB keyboards's and mice to match the amount of G200's/monitors.... and have a nice full color. ful mouse terminal system. :).. once 3D stuff is set... you hook all this up to a quad XEON machine and you can have one machien with 6 ppl doing graphic design or something :).
I My self used to get tired really fast and hence not able to stay awake and code. I do carpentry 3 days a weeks. (it's not the usual stuff, not the get up and be at work at 6:30am crap I used to do full time but more of a get up and show up around 10ish type :). I would do that those days and take it easy once I got home. The next day I would not work carpentry but not be able to code and work on my company I'd still sleep 16 hours of the day and couldn't think when I was awake.
:).
:)
:)
So I ask my buddy what kinda drugs should I take to stay awake (he's a heath buff as well as a kick butt graphic artist that lives eats breaths GIMP). He said to run 2 miles a day. Wake up and run (jog, walk). Get oxygen flowing. I been doing just that. I have to say here I'm not over weight or not outa shape. I look like I weight train and run 10 miles a day but that's just from working carpentry full time (I recently changed to part time bit 8 months ago). I'm not in any shape to run a marathon and I start to struggle after 2 miles (give me a month and 10 miles will be easy
And, well what does this all mean? it means I can get away with 6 hours of sleep and be fully awake the rest of the day. Once or twice a week You gota get that 8 to 12 hour sleep to remain healthy but you eat right and exercise you can stay awake and think clearly. Sure this isn't the best answer to coders block but it's just common since. Most people that sit at a computer are not the heathest. Take my brother for example. He went to nationals for high school cross country. Was in the top 100. Got a computer tech support job 2 years after HighSchool and he put on 60 pounds in a year. he's losing a lot of it but still. It's in my blood so I kinda gota start watching my self since I'm 2 years outa school now
And those of you guys n' gals with indoor dog's. Take them for a walk. They'll love you a bit more
scsi harddrive average 10meg/sec.. my U2W 7200 baracudda 18 gig maxes at 14Meg/sec if I'm lucky... but on a RAID with 7 drives I can get 80meg/sec for the 32-bit SCSI card.. up that to 64-bit scsi card I can get 160meg/sec with another 7 drives.... (naturally speed is faster with faster RPM drives but that's like a 1mec/sec or 2 faster) so for one server to even max out a gigabit NIC you need in the neighborhood of 10 to 14 U2W 7200 drives. not to mention a few megs of scsi adapter cache and a few gigs of main memory to give the RAID a rest every now and then :)
...does anyone with out the proper account information pay for a domain name they don't own.. Does this mean I can go pay for the renewal of ibm.com if I felt like it? or some one pay for my domains? Isn't this a security issue also? last time I messed with this kinda stuff I needed to have a working e-mail address to modify and verify changes. hmmmmmmmmmm
yeah.. right on.. WPS rocks!
Finally.. a linux Window manger that stacks up slightly to OS/2's WPS legacy.. IceWM 1.0 together with DFM. You can't beat this combo for ultimate productivity. Now if some one would make an IRC client for X that is as good as GT-IRC (OS/2 client) or even mIRC. -- Jason