Hmm? To me, the only thing "wrong" with diaspora is that nobody is using it... including me:/ If everybody I'm (actual) friends with on facebook used diaspora, I'd be content. For an alpha, and for what it does, the UI seems fine to me? I'll give you that it's even more bland than Facebook and G+, but hey.. show them some love (and give them feedback!), that stuff isn't easy to do. I mean the backend when I say that, but the UI depends on the backend, so yeah, cut them some slack -- or do it better. Seriously.
But facebook is a convenient way to have a topical discussion with anyone interested without having to be at a computer at the same time.
Sure... one of a thousand billion ways, most of them existing since the 90s or even 80s. And what do you think you're doing right now? Or rather, what you would be doing, if you didn't post AC? It's kinda like facebook, only with much bigger textareas:P
There are other services that do the same things, but none are as widely used, and none do it all at once.
Lazyness is the worst argument, and the outcome often fits to it. If "celebrities" can't hire someone to make them a blog with an RSS feed, maybe you should take the hint and adore someone else ^^
Well, if you feed shit like facebook, it can do stuff like buying (and destroying) Opera. I don't think the "but I like it" stuff makes up for that. We have actual damage, compare to gimmicky feel good bullshit. Like your post, for example. Oh noes, he's telling others what to do. Unlike you, who's not telling them not to tell others what to do, right? "I just voted for Hitler, I didn't vote he should kill people, so get out of my hair". No wait, fuck that brainless bullshit.
@Tawreh: Why are you so fanatical about women in the industry? I understand the need for equality, but imho you push it to the extreme.
LV: First time I hear such a thing as "extreme equality". Equality can never be extreme and I doubt anybody would even say anything like that for other kinds of discrimination, like racism. It's "reverse discrimination" or "corrective bias" that's extreme and I'm strongly against that.
That said, I'm not "fanatical" about women in the industry at all, I'm "fanatical" against prescriptive gender stereotypes. I hardly ever see sexism in our industry, it seems people have learned their lesson well long ago. I don't think the low participation of women in our industry is due to them feeling unwelcome any more. It's the rest of our gendered society that drives women away from engineering. Little girls play with toys that don't encourage them to develop their cognitive skills as much as boy toys. Children's movies and toys are the worst perpetuator of gender stereotypes and I hardly see any interest there. Everyone seems to focus their efforts in adults instead, fixing the mistakes rather than avoiding to make them in the first place.
As George Carlin knew, that's actually code for bending over and taking the whole thing without lube, then mumbling "thank you" while whipping out your wallet.
Oh yeah, fuck accessibility. Fuck the web in general. "It's better for everybody". That's literally all you need to know. "Just go ahead and remove that from your robots.txt".
I'm not saying there may not be good reasons (e.g. having the CSS and Javascript actually makes it possible to detect invisible text and whatnot, without that search engines may not even have a chance), but I really would appreciate some good reasoning, not being talked to like a fucking 5 year old.
Or hey, how about adding that "of course, not having a unique URL for relevant content is a noob fucking mistake, and generally a cancer everybody is looking forward to eradicate, and irrelevant gimmick content is hardly interesting for search, so if you just went ahead and made a site that doesn't suck butt, that would be fine, too." --- *something* to indicate he isn't fucking clueless.
It still gives me a vibe that an actual human being made that according to what they find pleasant and useful; certainly compared with a LOT of other sites, that each have lots more traffic than that Mozilla page... and if people who wouldn't know something nice if it killed their whole family and burned their house down can make the pages for Google and Facebook, surely "newbies" making "unprofessional" websites will not hurt, or even throw us back in the dark ages.
Slashdot had one "re-design" (I recall), which was mostly updating the old one a bit and going fully Ajax. That makes Slashdot the Champ of Kings, because hey, Craigslist looks like shit, too, and have you ever been to Ebay? IMDB? Amazon? Heh. You may say that it's not about design, and I'd agree, but there's still a difference between not caring about design and eye cancer. Flickr, a site for photographers of all things, for fucks sake... What they have is a good first attempt, but to leave it sitting like that for like *forever*? The biggest photo sharing site on the web last time I checked (which is never), and *that* is the message they're sending, "meh, *scratches ass*"? Seems so, and lucky for them and others, hardly anyone is listening, they just gobble it up.
But of course, the story is about web development, not design. Well, Just recently it became possible to, although still VERY painfully, follow a conversation in the comments that has unrelated comments in between replies. How many years did it take them? And it's still fucking shit, it still says "you're not supposed to actually talk" (kinda like Twitter). But at least it now looks nicer, they polished the turd that is their UI somewhat. And oh yeah, Twitter. I loved when they went full Javascript, with like a megabyte to download to get more than a completely white page.. that was also very pro right there. They actually tested that and thought "yeah, that's good enough for now". Priceless.
So I say, bring on the barbarian newbies -- if every person on the planet learned in school how to operate a CMS and what RSS feeds are, Facebook and many other cynical abominations wouldn't even exist, and Google would run a search engine bot and otherwise STFU about things they clearly haven't half a clue about; and if a bunch of Geocities-style pages were the price for that, I'd pay it several times over, and gladly, because it'd be such a bargain.
something that praises Microsoft, Apple, or Facebook, or critical of Google
LOL! I don't even know what to say... It's not that I doubt that corporate entities try to game the social web and deploy sockpuppets, or "just" encourage their workers to share how much they love the products they work on, etc... but why is Google exempt as some kind of good guy? That seems more bizarro than plausible to me.
Oh, and my name actually *is* Johann Lau and I never post AC, even when I'm just foaming at the mouth while incoherently abusing people, so I'm way ahead of you:P
The initial post heaps on un-warranted praise on Microsoft and that post was made using an account that is only getting it's first post today and will not have any further posts. So yes it is shill post and people bitch about shill posts as they should.
Why will it not have further posts? Are you some kind of prophet? It certainly has previous posts, among them stuff like
Of course, being such a clever shill, those posts were just to distract from the SUPER HARDCORE SHILL POST that would end up on the front page, right?
No wait, actually the people who scream "shill" are just dumb fucks who picked that word up from other dumb fucks. And if you weren't one of them, you'd realize that. Now fuck off and die.
What the fuck is it with everybody saying "shill!" every second word out of their worthless mouths on Slashdot these days?
Is that some new thing, like "noob" or "fag", or do you actually believe *anyone* who *ever* says something remotely positive about Microsoft, Google, Apple, or Facebook (etc.) is actually paid by them?
Why not simply pay attention to what they're actually saying? If you find fault with it, why not refute it?
If you can't refute it, saying "shill" just makes that even more clear, and if you can, saying "shill" kinda makes it seem like a random dumb fuck got something correct by pure chance.
It's been mediocre, it's been predictable, it's been utterly lame, and that dumb fucking meme -- it really isn't more, a fad for dimwits -- kinda could use some death about now.
Statistics are useless anyway, not in the least because of all those bots that pretend to be browsers. Accurate statistics would be nice, but since they're not available, a web developer should spend more attention to what they are actually doing, IMHO... and who, generally and exluding situations that involve terminal greed or idiocy, cares about how many people use old version of IE? I don't, that's like looking at a turd before you flush. I mean sure, have a glance, but don't keep looking and looking and looking... remember what Nietzsche said ^^
This give me flashbacks to what the "average user" produced back in the day, armed and dangerous with FrontPage.
Please, for the sake of my retinas, I hope that something better comes out of this.
is kinda the opposite of:
[using tools to publish] is going to be better
so...
That's the problem with analogies, they often fail to capture the problem they're related to.
... wtf is that about? maybe you should start really small, by either actually replying to people you're talking to, or opening a new post. I disagree with what you said, but because it's so utterly unrelated and random I can't even be arsed go into details. I'll just say "no".... thanks for the demonstration of the exact brainlessness I was bitching about though ^^ people who use standard tools are going to produce "better" results, if I just randomly type keys it constitutes a "reply", herpa derp.
Oh, you mean like when you teach people to read and write, they sometimes write crummy stuff? Funny, the way I see it, that's still better than what they wrote before -- namely nothing. Kinda like someone who makes a website with blue text on green background is still an improvement over someone who doesn't know how to make a website at all.
And frankly, look at Slashdot, look at Facebook, look at any fucking page Google ever made, look at Stackoverflow, look at Reddit, and so on.. 99% of the sites we don't even blink at are utter crap. They're either white with no separators, or with separators that crawled out of the ass of a blind man, and then died. Blue text on green background would be an improvement in a lot of cases.
Mozilla websites on the other hand I can't complain about, from the top off my head -- at least they're constantly switching it up and try to keep it pretty in a ^_^ way. So if anyone should do something like this, let it be them. But regardless of that: I'd rather read more websites with mediocre design coming from genuine humans, than have everybody know how to play it safe, or how to install a wordpress fucking theme, or how to just use facebook instead. Fuck all that stuff, and the whores it rode in on, too./rant:D
You got that exactly right! Zuckerberg may be filthy rich, but at least he made the mistake to marry an actual human being... and you, sir, get to laugh last.
Slashdot Mirror
Hmm? To me, the only thing "wrong" with diaspora is that nobody is using it... including me :/ If everybody I'm (actual) friends with on facebook used diaspora, I'd be content. For an alpha, and for what it does, the UI seems fine to me? I'll give you that it's even more bland than Facebook and G+, but hey.. show them some love (and give them feedback!), that stuff isn't easy to do. I mean the backend when I say that, but the UI depends on the backend, so yeah, cut them some slack -- or do it better. Seriously.
Sure... one of a thousand billion ways, most of them existing since the 90s or even 80s. And what do you think you're doing right now? Or rather, what you would be doing, if you didn't post AC? It's kinda like facebook, only with much bigger textareas :P
Lazyness is the worst argument, and the outcome often fits to it. If "celebrities" can't hire someone to make them a blog with an RSS feed, maybe you should take the hint and adore someone else ^^
Well, if you feed shit like facebook, it can do stuff like buying (and destroying) Opera. I don't think the "but I like it" stuff makes up for that. We have actual damage, compare to gimmicky feel good bullshit. Like your post, for example. Oh noes, he's telling others what to do. Unlike you, who's not telling them not to tell others what to do, right? "I just voted for Hitler, I didn't vote he should kill people, so get out of my hair". No wait, fuck that brainless bullshit.
(from http://www.netmagazine.com/interviews/lea-verou-future-css-and-more )
http://www.oldversion.com/ :P
"to design, create, and kick a** for America"
As George Carlin knew, that's actually code for bending over and taking the whole thing without lube, then mumbling "thank you" while whipping out your wallet.
Oh yeah, fuck accessibility. Fuck the web in general. "It's better for everybody". That's literally all you need to know. "Just go ahead and remove that from your robots.txt".
I'm not saying there may not be good reasons (e.g. having the CSS and Javascript actually makes it possible to detect invisible text and whatnot, without that search engines may not even have a chance), but I really would appreciate some good reasoning, not being talked to like a fucking 5 year old.
Or hey, how about adding that "of course, not having a unique URL for relevant content is a noob fucking mistake, and generally a cancer everybody is looking forward to eradicate, and irrelevant gimmick content is hardly interesting for search, so if you just went ahead and made a site that doesn't suck butt, that would be fine, too." --- *something* to indicate he isn't fucking clueless.
Uhm, right. Riiiight. Innocent poor Facebook is in for a nasty surprise :(
Simply put: servers cost money, as does traffic.
Gotta love the irony of your post though.
https://m.facebook.com/
I LOL'ed when I saw that, it's kinda sloppy... just like you said, they're probably not even trying (yet).
Whoops.. I'm talking about youtube there, must have deleted that word when editing sorry.
It still gives me a vibe that an actual human being made that according to what they find pleasant and useful; certainly compared with a LOT of other sites, that each have lots more traffic than that Mozilla page... and if people who wouldn't know something nice if it killed their whole family and burned their house down can make the pages for Google and Facebook, surely "newbies" making "unprofessional" websites will not hurt, or even throw us back in the dark ages.
Slashdot had one "re-design" (I recall), which was mostly updating the old one a bit and going fully Ajax. That makes Slashdot the Champ of Kings, because hey, Craigslist looks like shit, too, and have you ever been to Ebay? IMDB? Amazon? Heh. You may say that it's not about design, and I'd agree, but there's still a difference between not caring about design and eye cancer. Flickr, a site for photographers of all things, for fucks sake... What they have is a good first attempt, but to leave it sitting like that for like *forever*? The biggest photo sharing site on the web last time I checked (which is never), and *that* is the message they're sending, "meh, *scratches ass*"? Seems so, and lucky for them and others, hardly anyone is listening, they just gobble it up.
But of course, the story is about web development, not design. Well, Just recently it became possible to, although still VERY painfully, follow a conversation in the comments that has unrelated comments in between replies. How many years did it take them? And it's still fucking shit, it still says "you're not supposed to actually talk" (kinda like Twitter). But at least it now looks nicer, they polished the turd that is their UI somewhat. And oh yeah, Twitter. I loved when they went full Javascript, with like a megabyte to download to get more than a completely white page.. that was also very pro right there. They actually tested that and thought "yeah, that's good enough for now". Priceless.
So I say, bring on the barbarian newbies -- if every person on the planet learned in school how to operate a CMS and what RSS feeds are, Facebook and many other cynical abominations wouldn't even exist, and Google would run a search engine bot and otherwise STFU about things they clearly haven't half a clue about; and if a bunch of Geocities-style pages were the price for that, I'd pay it several times over, and gladly, because it'd be such a bargain.
LOL! I don't even know what to say... It's not that I doubt that corporate entities try to game the social web and deploy sockpuppets, or "just" encourage their workers to share how much they love the products they work on, etc... but why is Google exempt as some kind of good guy? That seems more bizarro than plausible to me.
Oh, and my name actually *is* Johann Lau and I never post AC, even when I'm just foaming at the mouth while incoherently abusing people, so I'm way ahead of you :P
Why will it not have further posts? Are you some kind of prophet? It certainly has previous posts, among them stuff like
http://slashdot.org/submission/2061021/mozilla---ms-is-blocking-browser-choice---again
http://slashdot.org/submission/2055677/why-do-we-tolerate-ie-just-say-no
Of course, being such a clever shill, those posts were just to distract from the SUPER HARDCORE SHILL POST that would end up on the front page, right?
No wait, actually the people who scream "shill" are just dumb fucks who picked that word up from other dumb fucks. And if you weren't one of them, you'd realize that. Now fuck off and die.
What the fuck is it with everybody saying "shill!" every second word out of their worthless mouths on Slashdot these days?
Is that some new thing, like "noob" or "fag", or do you actually believe *anyone* who *ever* says something remotely positive about Microsoft, Google, Apple, or Facebook (etc.) is actually paid by them?
Why not simply pay attention to what they're actually saying? If you find fault with it, why not refute it?
If you can't refute it, saying "shill" just makes that even more clear, and if you can, saying "shill" kinda makes it seem like a random dumb fuck got something correct by pure chance.
It's been mediocre, it's been predictable, it's been utterly lame, and that dumb fucking meme -- it really isn't more, a fad for dimwits -- kinda could use some death about now.
Statistics are useless anyway, not in the least because of all those bots that pretend to be browsers. Accurate statistics would be nice, but since they're not available, a web developer should spend more attention to what they are actually doing, IMHO... and who, generally and exluding situations that involve terminal greed or idiocy, cares about how many people use old version of IE? I don't, that's like looking at a turd before you flush. I mean sure, have a glance, but don't keep looking and looking and looking... remember what Nietzsche said ^^
You wouldn't know the difference either way, so that attempt at sarcasm is kinda backfiring.
I know that's what you think, but what do I think?
It's rather "OMG think of Joe Sixpack" but hey... while you're being dumb you might as well go for 3 out of 3.
Oh, you mean you "fixed" that for "me"? Why "thank you" :)
what is? the post I replied to? because
is kinda the opposite of:
so...
Notice how one makes sense, the other doesn't:
Oh, you mean like when you teach people to read and write, they sometimes write crummy stuff? Funny, the way I see it, that's still better than what they wrote before -- namely nothing. Kinda like someone who makes a website with blue text on green background is still an improvement over someone who doesn't know how to make a website at all.
And frankly, look at Slashdot, look at Facebook, look at any fucking page Google ever made, look at Stackoverflow, look at Reddit, and so on.. 99% of the sites we don't even blink at are utter crap. They're either white with no separators, or with separators that crawled out of the ass of a blind man, and then died. Blue text on green background would be an improvement in a lot of cases.
Mozilla websites on the other hand I can't complain about, from the top off my head -- at least they're constantly switching it up and try to keep it pretty in a ^_^ way. So if anyone should do something like this, let it be them. But regardless of that: I'd rather read more websites with mediocre design coming from genuine humans, than have everybody know how to play it safe, or how to install a wordpress fucking theme, or how to just use facebook instead. Fuck all that stuff, and the whores it rode in on, too. /rant :D
You got that exactly right! Zuckerberg may be filthy rich, but at least he made the mistake to marry an actual human being... and you, sir, get to laugh last.
You're scum.
"Herp derp" is your idea of a party? Huh.
yet that's what exactly what you're trying to do. you just fail at it, then try to pass it off as not trying haha :P