Although some manufacturers will choose to "opt out" of the CPRM stuff, SOFTWARE designers will simply require copy-control enabled hardware as one of the specs, ie:
it's embrace and extend. If the only way to run the software is w/a CPRM drive, and the software is mission-critical, then you've got no choice.
Of course, it COULD backfire and people would just stop using that software... but a potential (and likely) collaboration between software and hardware designers makes it all the more important that CPRM never get finalized as a standard.
Interesting idea, but what happens if someone sells a DVD to someone else who then pirates it? Or what if someone breaks into your house, steals your DVDs and pirates them? What if your computer is hacked, and your 50000 song watermarked-mp3 collection is stolen? Who's responsible?
(Sounds like you want a kind of Viral GPL type license where you sell it to someone and they are now obligated under the same terms... or something? I dunno if you can do that. Cuz what if I just want to sell it outright..?)
What if the songs are cracked and your id # is watermarked into them before they're distributed?
Do you really waa legally binding agreement when you buy a DVD or music? What happened to the idea of just buying something outright and just plain owning it?
BTW-- is your $100 fine per song? per album? per DVD? Would a double-album be some huge multi-thousand dollar fine? Is it per-infringement, or if my song gets "out" and is pirated 1,000 times, do I owe $100,000?
It seems I'd get my 1,000,000 Napster friends together and we'd just all co-own the album, paying.000000001c each.
I believe everybuddy supports multiple IM systems at the client level (ie, it connects to multiple services) whereas Jabber works at the server level. That is, you connect ONCE to the jabber server, and the Jabber service in turn connects to the different IM services (via "transports")
A subtle difference, but the idea is that by keeping everything at the server end, you don't have to update the clients every time an IM service changes its protocol.
There are other differences, of course (jabber uses XML to encode messages, etc) but just wanted to note there were some design differences. -------------------
Well, if this thing is software-controlled, and Linux is open-source, then all we have to do is create Linux drivers that create a workaround to defeat it, right?
Sounds like you're advocating something illegal under the DMCA, namely circumventing copy protection used to protect a copyrighted work.
It's decss all over again. They encrypt software, music, you name it onto a CD, DVD, Installer disk, whatever. You can't get it off there because that's a DMCA violation. Then they make a Windows-based installer to transfer it securely to the Hard Drive. You can't get it off the HD either-- it's another DMCA violation.
Boom. There goes your right to use any of that content in Linux, unless they feel like giving you a Linux installer.
I seem to remember that prodigy had a graphical interface when they first came out, years and years ago...
Didn't that interface have "pop-up" ads? Anyone remember?
Say, anyone remember HBBS for the Apple II? just thought I'd throw that out there;) I'll bet they did a lot of stuff that people are claiming patents for.
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I looked on the amsat site and can't find anything clearly stating what the point is-- is it just to be cool, ie like a deluxe model airplane, or does it have some special mission, purpose, or function?
I wonder-- will Ariane 5 use anything as ballast? If I wanna send a ham sandwich into space (to be cool) would they do it?
I don't know what they were thinking at digidesign, but there's a windows & mac version that supports 8 tracks and is totally *free* (ie, not crippleware or a demo). I've been using it for about a month and you can do some awesome things, from music to audio soundtracks to whatever. Some plugins included like pitch-shifting and basic equalization. No special hardware needed.
I don't wanna press my luck, but how about a free linux version, Digidesign?!!;)
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Yes, yes... the link went bad apparently, but I found it here
Also, the story refers to an original article in New Scientist magazine, which can be found here, although for some reason the link is down for me right now.
One thing I don't get with all the MPEG-4 and the Windows Media Player and DivX;) and all is who owns what.
For example, I heard DivX was adapted from some leaked Microsoft source code. Does that mean that DivX is not fully free? I'm sure M$ didn't GPL that code.. so what's up with that?
Similarly, is the MPEG-4 codec itself free? Is it like MP3 where some institute somewhere owns it? I know it's been in development for a long time, so are there relevent patents involved?
And now 3ivX....apparently also a derivitave of someone else's work (MPEG-4)... How "legit" is the whole thing in terms of free-as-in-speech-ness? Will 3ivX-in-hardware players conceivably be legally available someday Can anyone use the 3ivX standards without paying a royalty?
Sorry, just kinda confused. I appreciate the technological acheivements here, but I'm curious about the licensing/other issues.
An interesting idea came up in this Slashdot thread this week about the possibility of using BOCH's x86 emulation with WINE's Windows-like libraries to create Windows-binary compatability on the upcoming MacOS X.
Would this approach work? If nothing else, could BOCHS used in OS X to install/run Windows from the new Apple OS a la VirtualPC? -------------------
I'm an inventor. I've realized how inefficient the modern DVD player is. I mean, you can only play one DVD at a time, for God's sake. So I've just invented a prototype for "Waldo's DVD Jukebox," an inexpensive computer device that stores and plays up to 50 DVD movies which I can access from ANY TV in the house using my remote control! The problem-- using my prototype is illegal, since it requires copying DVD movies onto the computer's hard drive.
I purchase a DVD of a gangster movie. It has some great dialogue, and I want to play the soundtrack in my car for a long road trip. But to do so, I'd have to "illegally" remove the audio track's watermark so my RIAA-approved car tape player will play it.
I'm the head of a library in Phoenix, AZ. People are always leaving DVDs in their cars, which melt in the 120+ summer heat. I'd like to have a backup copy, but alas, I cannot because of the DMCA.
As a hip-hop artist, I'm mixing an album and would like to use a 2 second audio sample of a line from a movie. I also want to loop a drum fill from a watermarked CD. But my RIAA-approved sampler and audio mixer won't play them. The only way to do it is to remove the watermark.
I'm Dr. Johnson, teaching a class to my film school students. I'd like to burn a DVD for use in the class player which contrasts the editing styles of four movies. But to remove the copy protection to make my instructive video is illegal.
I'm a student in Dr. Johnson's film class. My assignment was to re-edit a scene from a movie on my computer using only the footage already in the movie. I'd like to "tighten up" a sequence to show the class how it could have been more efficiently edited, using a minimum of shots, but to load the movie into my computer I'd have to circumvent the copy protection, which is illegal.
As a video artist, I create collages of peices of sound and video from movies, splashing two second clips against one another and manipulating the images to create a new kind of art. My peices are about sex and violence in the media. Unfortunately my work is illegal because I used DeCSS to copy peices of movies, even though the copying itself is protected under "fair use." My art is also effectively censored at all the venues which use RIAA-approved equipment which blocks the watermarked audio snippets.
My wife is from Norway. She's a big fan of romance movies. There's a movie that just came out on DVD I know she'd love. If only she spoke English. I'd like to load the movie I just bought on DVD onto my computer and translate it for her by adding subtitles (It'll only take a few hours) and have her play it on my laptop. Unfortunately, to do so would make me a criminal, as I'd have to use DeCSS to copy the DVD content to my machine.
I deplore unrealistic violence in movies. I just purchased a DVD for my little girl's christmas present, but two of the scenes are much too violent and aren't even important to the story! I'd like to remove those scenes and create a new DVD just for her. To do so, I'd have to use DeCSS, but that would be a criminal act.
As a professional film reviewer, I often include scenes from movies in my reviews to illustrate my point. Now that I distribute my weekly show on DVD, I can't include DVD clips from movies without using DeCSS. Making my review shows, I've just learned, is illegal.
Two years ago, I purchased a DVD containing an old gangster movie from the 1930s. Now I've learned that the movie has fallen into the public domain, meaning I can not only legally copy the DVD, I can even legally sell copies! Would DeCSS be illegal to own/use/trade under this circumstance? It seems to me this is one case where DeCSS performs a legal and necessary function, ie, giving me the capability to access newly UNcopyrighted information! Woohoo! Take that, MPAA.
Let's say there's another outbreak of the ILOVEYOU virus, right? So a potentially "dangerous" type of e-mail is being forwarded via e-mail. Can the FBI step in and do what many ISPs were doing, ie, blocking that attachment? Seems like the FBI's job, right?
Well at first blush, it seems like this is a valuable service the FBI might do-- to protect our digital infrastructure. But...what about other types of attachments or e-mail content could be considered "dangerous" that the FBI could use the same rationale for blocking?
Where's the line?
Allowing carnivore to exist starts us down the path where they can start doing way more than just monitoring e-mails... -------------------
NASA has purchased exclusive ownership of the positions of stars in the Andromeda Galaxy as well as all data regarding black holes and supernovas within 300,000 light years of Earth.
Information referring to the number of "stars of the heavens" and "the sand which is on the seashore" have been awarded to the natural sciences in a lawsuit against the omniciant almighty God (Lord vs. Descartes, 1624 p.23).
PiGen, the supercomputer supercompany have had their patent upheld on the previously undiscovered digits "32509328202" contained deep within "pi." The courts are expected to rule on whether people using circles, including donut shops, beachball makers, automobile manufacturers, and the Frisbee company (FRZB), are infringing.
The Madagascan ring-tailed lemur is demanding compensation from humans for "clear and blatant theft of gene-based opposable thumb technology."
Noam Chomsky is now enforcing his patent on the "lingustic genome," including most verbs, awarded after he demonstrated that communication via language is "the result of the unfolding of a genetically determined program." (Interview to KBS TV, Kyoto, Japan)
The Children's Television Workshop has begun charging a license fee for commercial use of the letter "E" and the number "4." Consonants for the moment continue to be free.
THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT (DMFRA)
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A BILL
To amend the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 1998, to repeal restrictions regarding circumvention of copyright protection systems.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. REPEAL OF RESTRICTIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SYSTEMS.
Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 1998, is amended by striking section 1201 under the heading 'CHAPTER 12--COPYRIGHT PROTECTION AND MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS'.
I have been hearing this same argument since civics class in the early nineties. republicans are for small, limited government, democrats are for big expensive government with more services.
Why this may have been truer in the days of FDR or Goldwater, all i can see in the last 20 years is:
1. Under Reagan/Bush, the government EXPLODED in size and cost. Budget was spending more than it took in and the national debt skyrocketed exponentially, leading future generations to pay for 80's excesses.
2. Under Clinton, the government SHRANK significantly, became more efficient and modernized, the out-of-control budget was BALANCED and we now finally have the chance to pay back the debt, unthinkable 9 years ago.
So why do Democrats allow the same moldy "big government" label-- the opposite of the truth-- to be used against them?!!
I am looking for a music background for the movie. If you are an artist and can compose and record a song for the movie, I would be eternally grateful to you. Please avoid the StarWars theme, I'd get automatically sued for obvious reasons.
And we wouldn't want to do anything that might get us sued, would we?;)
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Well there's also an Office for Macintosh...
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Did anyone learn anything about the copy-control stuff that had supposedly been added to SCSI and firewire?
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Although some manufacturers will choose to "opt out" of the CPRM stuff, SOFTWARE designers will simply require copy-control enabled hardware as one of the specs, ie:
"This software requires
32 MB RAM
Such-and-such Processor
CPRM-enabled Hard Disk"
it's embrace and extend. If the only way to run the software is w/a CPRM drive, and the software is mission-critical, then you've got no choice.
Of course, it COULD backfire and people would just stop using that software... but a potential (and likely) collaboration between software and hardware designers makes it all the more important that CPRM never get finalized as a standard.
W
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Interesting idea, but what happens if someone sells a DVD to someone else who then pirates it? Or what if someone breaks into your house, steals your DVDs and pirates them? What if your computer is hacked, and your 50000 song watermarked-mp3 collection is stolen? Who's responsible?
.000000001c each.
(Sounds like you want a kind of Viral GPL type license where you sell it to someone and they are now obligated under the same terms... or something? I dunno if you can do that. Cuz what if I just want to sell it outright..?)
What if the songs are cracked and your id # is watermarked into them before they're distributed?
Do you really waa legally binding agreement when you buy a DVD or music? What happened to the idea of just buying something outright and just plain owning it?
BTW-- is your $100 fine per song? per album? per DVD? Would a double-album be some huge multi-thousand dollar fine? Is it per-infringement, or if my song gets "out" and is pirated 1,000 times, do I owe $100,000?
It seems I'd get my 1,000,000 Napster friends together and we'd just all co-own the album, paying
W
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Of course, I've heard this refrain for years now. It's as if there aren't any companies making money selling an operating system for x86 machines.
Didn't Bill something-or-other start a company that does that?
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I believe everybuddy supports multiple IM systems at the client level (ie, it connects to multiple services) whereas Jabber works at the server level. That is, you connect ONCE to the jabber server, and the Jabber service in turn connects to the different IM services (via "transports")
A subtle difference, but the idea is that by keeping everything at the server end, you don't have to update the clients every time an IM service changes its protocol.
There are other differences, of course (jabber uses XML to encode messages, etc) but just wanted to note there were some design differences.
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Sounds like you're advocating something illegal under the DMCA, namely circumventing copy protection used to protect a copyrighted work.
It's decss all over again. They encrypt software, music, you name it onto a CD, DVD, Installer disk, whatever. You can't get it off there because that's a DMCA violation. Then they make a Windows-based installer to transfer it securely to the Hard Drive. You can't get it off the HD either-- it's another DMCA violation.
Boom. There goes your right to use any of that content in Linux, unless they feel like giving you a Linux installer.
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I seem to remember that prodigy had a graphical interface when they first came out, years and years ago...
;) I'll bet they did a lot of stuff that people are claiming patents for.
Didn't that interface have "pop-up" ads? Anyone remember?
Say, anyone remember HBBS for the Apple II? just thought I'd throw that out there
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I looked on the amsat site and can't find anything clearly stating what the point is-- is it just to be cool, ie like a deluxe model airplane, or does it have some special mission, purpose, or function?
I wonder-- will Ariane 5 use anything as ballast? If I wanna send a ham sandwich into space (to be cool) would they do it?
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It's at:
http://www.digidesign.com/ptfree/
I don't wanna press my luck, but how about a free linux version, Digidesign?!! ;)
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Also, the story refers to an original article in New Scientist magazine, which can be found here, although for some reason the link is down for me right now.
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One thing I don't get with all the MPEG-4 and the Windows Media Player and DivX ;) and all is who owns what.
For example, I heard DivX was adapted from some leaked Microsoft source code. Does that mean that DivX is not fully free? I'm sure M$ didn't GPL that code.. so what's up with that?
Similarly, is the MPEG-4 codec itself free? Is it like MP3 where some institute somewhere owns it? I know it's been in development for a long time, so are there relevent patents involved?
And now 3ivX....apparently also a derivitave of someone else's work (MPEG-4)... How "legit" is the whole thing in terms of free-as-in-speech-ness? Will 3ivX-in-hardware players conceivably be legally available someday Can anyone use the 3ivX standards without paying a royalty?
Sorry, just kinda confused. I appreciate the technological acheivements here, but I'm curious about the licensing/other issues.
W
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Would this approach work? If nothing else, could BOCHS used in OS X to install/run Windows from the new Apple OS a la VirtualPC?
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Let's say there's another outbreak of the ILOVEYOU virus, right? So a potentially "dangerous" type of e-mail is being forwarded via e-mail. Can the FBI step in and do what many ISPs were doing, ie, blocking that attachment? Seems like the FBI's job, right?
Well at first blush, it seems like this is a valuable service the FBI might do-- to protect our digital infrastructure. But...what about other types of attachments or e-mail content could be considered "dangerous" that the FBI could use the same rationale for blocking?
Where's the line?
Allowing carnivore to exist starts us down the path where they can start doing way more than just monitoring e-mails...
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There, as I recall, was also a GEOS for the Apple //e and IIgs.
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THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT (DMFRA)- -----
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A BILL
To amend the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 1998, to repeal restrictions regarding circumvention of copyright protection systems.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. REPEAL OF RESTRICTIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SYSTEMS.
Title I of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, 1998, is amended by striking section 1201 under the heading 'CHAPTER 12--COPYRIGHT PROTECTION AND MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS'.
[END OF DMFRA]
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that's obi-WAN kenobe.
it's 4:42 fri night. cut me some slack.
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Although after the debacle of "Microsoft Refund Day" I'm a big hesitant to participate in any such activism.
Promise me no one will be there dressed as Obi Kenobe. Seriously.
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turn off relaying.
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As you say in your page, most of these I recognize as Quayleisms from several years ago.
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I have been hearing this same argument since civics class in the early nineties. republicans are for small, limited government, democrats are for big expensive government with more services.
Why this may have been truer in the days of FDR or Goldwater, all i can see in the last 20 years is:
1. Under Reagan/Bush, the government EXPLODED in size and cost. Budget was spending more than it took in and the national debt skyrocketed exponentially, leading future generations to pay for 80's excesses.
2. Under Clinton, the government SHRANK significantly, became more efficient and modernized, the out-of-control budget was BALANCED and we now finally have the chance to pay back the debt, unthinkable 9 years ago.
So why do Democrats allow the same moldy "big government" label-- the opposite of the truth-- to be used against them?!!
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And we wouldn't want to do anything that might get us sued, would we? ;)
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