Every piece of mail my wife sends on her hotmail account has an advert in it. Everytime she goes to look at that mail, her screen lights up with dozens of blinking images. Microsoft loves adverts, when they get to send them. They will continue to spam and are willing to destroy the internet to be the only one who can do it.. I hope M$ crushes these jerks and then gets the same treatment. The only cure is to make spamming an offense with a per piece fine. Anything else will make the internet resemble broadcast TV.
Microsfot has not forsworn spamming themselves, have they?. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend when both of them do the same thing to you. If you think hard enough, you will remember that Microsoft has been screwing you all along. If you are using their software on a daily basis, you might never feel it. When the limits of their crappy software are brought to free software, it hurts like hell. DHCP on an "always on" internet connection? Ouch. Forbidding, "server machines"? Having to use someone else's SMTP server? Shit!
Yes, today I really hate Microsoft. They have reached out and screwed me, though I don't run their software and have nothing to do with them. It's personal now.
``We don't think all commercial e-mail should be banned,'' he said. Microsoft favors self regulation by the industry ``to establish standards that can evolve over time,'' he said.
and you think it's reasonable?
It's typical duplicity from M$, "I won't let you do what I do, and that's how we make our money and bring you software that does what you wan." Microsoft has been trying all along to criple it's "client" machines so that they are dependent on Microshaft "server" machines and all dependent on M$. It does not do what I want it to and never will.
Mass mailing is just one more instance of "client" gelding and they have media help for it. A lack of mail agents in M$ software is typical, where the free world has many such as Sendmail and Exim. Their intrests here line up with traditional publishers who wish to keep the playing field uneven. To bring this lack of mailing ability to free software, AOL/MSN and others have sucessfully threatened smaller ISPs to block both inbound and outbound port 25 traffic. Forcing a cable company to give up a competitive advantage like web and mail serving stinks like an anti-trust violation, but that's what a tech told me happend recently when I was forced to use their smtp server as a relay for the first time. The excuse given was to keep cracked M$ boxes from spamming, so M$ created the problem to begin with and the cracking spammers did not lack mail agents, and it's not likely to help. No other smtp server could be used but theirs, enabling Carnivore and censorship, disabling TLS and privacy.
This is absolutely what the internet is NOT about. The internet is supposed to be a network of peer computers. There's not supposed to be central control or a difference between the ability of one computer and another. Microsoft never liked the internet anyway. They really hate free software that gives people ability that M$ doea not want them to have. Microsoft thinks it owns the internet and can make it into the next broadcast TV. They can, as long people think such things are reasonable.
Unix is a marketing term that means nothing to computers. They can only sense on and off. They can not tell one peice of code from another and ignore the distictions men draw between them. They continue to funciton when judges order them to halt or outlaws pieces of their instruction set. To them, all code is one and Unix is a silly dream some men once had.
JFS and NUMA are not implemented in system V or SCO Unix, the code SCO showed their shills to back aledged copyright violation. SCO says one thing one day and another the next. None of it ever adds up.
Your synopsis of the case indicates you have paid no attention already. Had you been reading SCO preess releases, you might have been alternately amused and outraged. Did you send in your "one time only" $99 per CPU Linux fee? Do you really think they own all of Unix? Their have backed their ludicrous claims with nothing but slander and insult and so far the only people taking them seriously are M$ and an English major. If you would, kindly sit at that other table in the cafeteria with all the PHB for the durration and quit posting useless drivel.
I would not be too sure of that. Many of the things McBitch has been saying amount to fraud and he should be held personally responsible for that. No matter how bad things get, you can always make them worse.
"Through contributing AIX source code to Linux and using UNIX methods to accelerate and improve Linux as a free operating system, with the resulting destruction of UNIX, IBM has clearly demonstrated its misuse of UNIX source code and has violated the terms of its contract with SCO. SCO has the right to terminate IBM's right to use and distribute AIX. Today AIX is an unauthorized derivative of the UNIX System V operating system source code and its users are, as of this date, using AIX without a valid basis to do so."
If Unix is destroyed, why is anyone running AIX? How can you terminate by destruction what is already destroyed? Can this be interpreted as BSD is dying? It only makes sense if there is no Unix, which is what I suspected all along. Thank you, SCO, for making this clear to me.
It would be great if newspapers had to point to specific web pages of the people and firms they report about. If everyone had such a forum, this would be an easy thing to do. In many circumstances, it's only right of the newspaper to provide that forum. Newspapers are widely read publications and even a link to the opinion of a slander victim will only go so far to repair the damage. Not everyone will follow the link. Pointing the NYT's traffic, for example, to some poor dude's geocities page, won't work at all. By the same reasoning, bloggers don't have the same responsiblity as a big newspaper does and should not have to provide so much as a link to companies and firms that have a huge web presence.
Circulation size and bandwith available MUST be taken into account or this law is loony.
But systems like QNX and other niche OS's are more like a Hammer and Screwdriver. Although they don't have as much functionality as the Swiss Army Knife. They do their job better and are more reliable for their jobs.
QNX is being used by industry to run a vast array of completely different machines. It's obviously doing more than one job, it just does them one at a time. Software is always flexible, unless it's closed then it's just another chunk you can't modify. According to the article QNX is being used for "general purpose" computing too. Another poster mentioned the Audry as an example.
The other thing that's anoying about your post and the article itself is the compairison of Linux and Microsoft crap as equals because both employ a monolithic kernel. What crap. Stable distros of GNU/Linux don't crash whith anything like the frequency M$ crap does. While M$ execs laugh like madmen over the prospect of running an M$ system for more than 30 days, calling it "insane", Free software routinely runs for months and years on a variety of hardware. NT proves that this instability on M$'s part is a matter of code quality, because it uses a microkernel. It's very irritating for people to assume that free software sucks simply because it can be used as a replacement for software that should not be tollerated.
What advantage, whatsoever, do IE clients have in selling IIS server boxes? About the only thing that IE does that makes it a better client, or vice versa, in concert with IIS is challenge/response, yet if Microsoft was so focused on utilizing that advantage, wouldn't they have publicized the technology?
Microsoft's propriatory crap is why M$ needs the clients boxes. Propriatory is the only way M$ ever has an advantage over anyone. They can't build it into the server unless it exists on the client. That's how they plan to extend their awful desktop monopoly. Why else would they develop junk like activeX and all that?
If Microsoft was so dependent upon their browser lock-in, then wouldn't they put all their forces behind making the best damn browser in the Mac market...?
Yes and no. They tried and failed and are again abandoning the rebellious Mac 5% (and growing).
When people really have a choice, they don't chose M$. I have not used M$ anywhere for months and I could not be happier.
Finally, a solution for all of those brick skyscrapers.
It's called a curtian wall. It's not structrually bearing, but cinder blocks might be the cheapest way to do it. When you put them around a fire escape, they can keep you from cooking as fast.
I'm not sure I want "vibration" sensors in my walls for the local police department, nosy neighbors or anyone else to listen to. My voice is a "vibration" and what I say in my house and place of work is for those around me, not big brother.
Microsoft won the browser war quite handily, now capturing some 90%+ of web browser clients. That's old news, and the web browser wars don't get media or investor interest anymore
It might look like the browser war is over on M$ platforms, but the server war is not. Microsoft's only advantage in selling servers is the number of M$ browsers out there. Losing the Mac 5% will hurt them, but they have realized that they've lost anyway. They can't compete on a platform they don't own. Mac users are free to chose a better browser than IE and are doing it.
Adding the Mac share to the free software share, web sites may soon see IE use dip below 90%. That would be a catastrophy for M$ because severs is their only profitable growth market. Investors notice that kind of thing.
The route is on. You can try to obfuscate it or call it proper business thinking but you can't hide the fact that fewer people are buying the M$ lock-in. Lock-in was all the M$ ever had, once it's gone, they are gone.
"discovery phase" means in the context of a lawsuit before you make any more comments.
Hey, it was SCO's idea to call those 80 lines of code, "proof", not mine. Don't blame me if I don't think there's enough there to justify entering a discovery phase, much less a proof. All I've got to go on is some poor English major's opinion, because SCO is playing hocus-pocus with published code. They are the one's who have courted the public's opinion and they are the one's who need to back up their public assertions if they want the public reaction they desire. Nothing they have done fits into normal law practice and by the time the "discovery phase" is over they will be ready for a settlement
Planting FUD about a competitor. On one hand you have to give them credit. No company in the history of mankind has ever done it better. On the other hand it is a low class, childish, unethical thing to do.
Like most childish unethical things, it's also pointless and transparent. In the end, you can only dishonor yourself. No liability will be demonstrated, only Microsoft's criminal nature. Such demonstrations have and will continue to hurt Microsoft's sales.
I wouldn't expect lawyers for either side to divulge all of their evidence in advance. IBM and SCO are just now beginning the "discovery phase" of the suit. So I anticipate that more revelations will be forthcoming over the next couple of months.
Huh?! SCO is just "discovering" things so they can't come forward and stop the supposed infringment by publishing it and telling everyone to cease and dissist? Yet they know it's cost the at least one billion dollars!? The code was from 1980's era Unix but this is not about copyright? That code is well known and publishded but they consider it a trade secret? It lacks all the advanced code they call "enterprise grade" but IBM stole those features from SCO? When are these SCO idiots going to get their story straight?
It's so undignified, I'm embarassed to watch. Laura Didio, it's obvious you have been pulled in way over your head. Recognize that people who would restrict what you can tell others have something to hide and get out of it.
Uhhh, ever heard of ... the death of M$.
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Open Office? Star Office? Microshit is not the only company that can buy a program and stick it on the market. Oh yeah, Sun also manages to make significant improvments to those programs faster than M$. In time, it will gut M$'s monopoly rent revenue stream. If you don't need Word, you don't need M$ and can pick and chose reasonable productivity software.
Oh yeah, despite the doom and gloom of declining revenue everyone is seeing, Sun still makes money. That's more than can be said for many companies, especially ones that don't have monopoly rents to fall back on.
does this mean/. will stop posting sco stories on saturday? yay!
What, you want to miss the Santa Cruz Out-a-business sale? I suppose so, you did not care to read SCO's latest rantings, a 48 hour warning to AIX users. Well, you cared enough to read deep into the comments and spam them with your stupid, "Slashdot Editors Suck" post. Let's look at your other posts. Yep that's what I thought, pure troll without a single tech post demonstrating ownereship or care of anything.
Twitter takes down his Open Linux 2.3 box and reads the side again. The bottom of the box has a bix C, Caldera systems. The top of the box promisses, "Thre CDs Include:.... Office Productivity Applixware 4.4.2, StarOffice 5.1, WordPerfect8, Daily scheduler/organizer, calender, calculator"
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If you forget what has been done to you, and are ignorant of what is being done to you, then you will always be a victim.
Every piece of mail my wife sends on her hotmail account has an advert in it. Everytime she goes to look at that mail, her screen lights up with dozens of blinking images. Microsoft loves adverts, when they get to send them. They will continue to spam and are willing to destroy the internet to be the only one who can do it.. I hope M$ crushes these jerks and then gets the same treatment. The only cure is to make spamming an offense with a per piece fine. Anything else will make the internet resemble broadcast TV.
Yes, today I really hate Microsoft. They have reached out and screwed me, though I don't run their software and have nothing to do with them. It's personal now.
Microsoft wants for itslef what you can't have and is willing to destroy the internet to have it. Spam is worth so much more to Microsoft if no one else can use it. Don't worry, they would never be irresponsible, and make your life any worse than comercial TV, would they? It's not like every letter from my wife's hotmail account has an advert in it or anything.
``We don't think all commercial e-mail should be banned,'' he said. Microsoft favors self regulation by the industry ``to establish standards that can evolve over time,'' he said.
and you think it's reasonable?
It's typical duplicity from M$, "I won't let you do what I do, and that's how we make our money and bring you software that does what you wan." Microsoft has been trying all along to criple it's "client" machines so that they are dependent on Microshaft "server" machines and all dependent on M$. It does not do what I want it to and never will.
Mass mailing is just one more instance of "client" gelding and they have media help for it. A lack of mail agents in M$ software is typical, where the free world has many such as Sendmail and Exim. Their intrests here line up with traditional publishers who wish to keep the playing field uneven. To bring this lack of mailing ability to free software, AOL/MSN and others have sucessfully threatened smaller ISPs to block both inbound and outbound port 25 traffic. Forcing a cable company to give up a competitive advantage like web and mail serving stinks like an anti-trust violation, but that's what a tech told me happend recently when I was forced to use their smtp server as a relay for the first time. The excuse given was to keep cracked M$ boxes from spamming, so M$ created the problem to begin with and the cracking spammers did not lack mail agents, and it's not likely to help. No other smtp server could be used but theirs, enabling Carnivore and censorship, disabling TLS and privacy.
This is absolutely what the internet is NOT about. The internet is supposed to be a network of peer computers. There's not supposed to be central control or a difference between the ability of one computer and another. Microsoft never liked the internet anyway. They really hate free software that gives people ability that M$ doea not want them to have. Microsoft thinks it owns the internet and can make it into the next broadcast TV. They can, as long people think such things are reasonable.
Unix is a marketing term that means nothing to computers. They can only sense on and off. They can not tell one peice of code from another and ignore the distictions men draw between them. They continue to funciton when judges order them to halt or outlaws pieces of their instruction set. To them, all code is one and Unix is a silly dream some men once had.
JFS and NUMA are not implemented in system V or SCO Unix, the code SCO showed their shills to back aledged copyright violation. SCO says one thing one day and another the next. None of it ever adds up.
Your synopsis of the case indicates you have paid no attention already. Had you been reading SCO preess releases, you might have been alternately amused and outraged. Did you send in your "one time only" $99 per CPU Linux fee? Do you really think they own all of Unix? Their have backed their ludicrous claims with nothing but slander and insult and so far the only people taking them seriously are M$ and an English major. If you would, kindly sit at that other table in the cafeteria with all the PHB for the durration and quit posting useless drivel.
I would not be too sure of that. Many of the things McBitch has been saying amount to fraud and he should be held personally responsible for that. No matter how bad things get, you can always make them worse.
If Unix is destroyed, why is anyone running AIX? How can you terminate by destruction what is already destroyed? Can this be interpreted as BSD is dying? It only makes sense if there is no Unix, which is what I suspected all along. Thank you, SCO, for making this clear to me.
Circulation size and bandwith available MUST be taken into account or this law is loony.
But systems like QNX and other niche OS's are more like a Hammer and Screwdriver. Although they don't have as much functionality as the Swiss Army Knife. They do their job better and are more reliable for their jobs.
QNX is being used by industry to run a vast array of completely different machines. It's obviously doing more than one job, it just does them one at a time. Software is always flexible, unless it's closed then it's just another chunk you can't modify. According to the article QNX is being used for "general purpose" computing too. Another poster mentioned the Audry as an example.
The other thing that's anoying about your post and the article itself is the compairison of Linux and Microsoft crap as equals because both employ a monolithic kernel. What crap. Stable distros of GNU/Linux don't crash whith anything like the frequency M$ crap does. While M$ execs laugh like madmen over the prospect of running an M$ system for more than 30 days, calling it "insane", Free software routinely runs for months and years on a variety of hardware. NT proves that this instability on M$'s part is a matter of code quality, because it uses a microkernel. It's very irritating for people to assume that free software sucks simply because it can be used as a replacement for software that should not be tollerated.
Microsoft's propriatory crap is why M$ needs the clients boxes. Propriatory is the only way M$ ever has an advantage over anyone. They can't build it into the server unless it exists on the client. That's how they plan to extend their awful desktop monopoly. Why else would they develop junk like activeX and all that?
If Microsoft was so dependent upon their browser lock-in, then wouldn't they put all their forces behind making the best damn browser in the Mac market ...?
Yes and no. They tried and failed and are again abandoning the rebellious Mac 5% (and growing).
When people really have a choice, they don't chose M$. I have not used M$ anywhere for months and I could not be happier.
It's called a curtian wall. It's not structrually bearing, but cinder blocks might be the cheapest way to do it. When you put them around a fire escape, they can keep you from cooking as fast.
I'm not sure I want "vibration" sensors in my walls for the local police department, nosy neighbors or anyone else to listen to. My voice is a "vibration" and what I say in my house and place of work is for those around me, not big brother.
It might look like the browser war is over on M$ platforms, but the server war is not. Microsoft's only advantage in selling servers is the number of M$ browsers out there. Losing the Mac 5% will hurt them, but they have realized that they've lost anyway. They can't compete on a platform they don't own. Mac users are free to chose a better browser than IE and are doing it.
Adding the Mac share to the free software share, web sites may soon see IE use dip below 90%. That would be a catastrophy for M$ because severs is their only profitable growth market. Investors notice that kind of thing.
The route is on. You can try to obfuscate it or call it proper business thinking but you can't hide the fact that fewer people are buying the M$ lock-in. Lock-in was all the M$ ever had, once it's gone, they are gone.
That makes sense but I missed the part about AOL killing Mozilla/Netscape. Can you point to that for me or tell me what you mean?
Hey, it was SCO's idea to call those 80 lines of code, "proof", not mine. Don't blame me if I don't think there's enough there to justify entering a discovery phase, much less a proof. All I've got to go on is some poor English major's opinion, because SCO is playing hocus-pocus with published code. They are the one's who have courted the public's opinion and they are the one's who need to back up their public assertions if they want the public reaction they desire. Nothing they have done fits into normal law practice and by the time the "discovery phase" is over they will be ready for a settlement
Like most childish unethical things, it's also pointless and transparent. In the end, you can only dishonor yourself. No liability will be demonstrated, only Microsoft's criminal nature. Such demonstrations have and will continue to hurt Microsoft's sales.
You insensitive porpoise!
Smiles and waits for Jeffs head to expode.
I wouldn't expect lawyers for either side to divulge all of their evidence in advance. IBM and SCO are just now beginning the "discovery phase" of the suit. So I anticipate that more revelations will be forthcoming over the next couple of months.
Huh?! SCO is just "discovering" things so they can't come forward and stop the supposed infringment by publishing it and telling everyone to cease and dissist? Yet they know it's cost the at least one billion dollars!? The code was from 1980's era Unix but this is not about copyright? That code is well known and publishded but they consider it a trade secret? It lacks all the advanced code they call "enterprise grade" but IBM stole those features from SCO? When are these SCO idiots going to get their story straight?
It's so undignified, I'm embarassed to watch. Laura Didio, it's obvious you have been pulled in way over your head. Recognize that people who would restrict what you can tell others have something to hide and get out of it.
Oh yeah, despite the doom and gloom of declining revenue everyone is seeing, Sun still makes money. That's more than can be said for many companies, especially ones that don't have monopoly rents to fall back on.
Tell them the air is much fresher when they take their heads out of their .... mmm, windows.
Slashdot users, torque, has it and I thought of naming my son that. Twisted, eh?
What, you want to miss the Santa Cruz Out-a-business sale? I suppose so, you did not care to read SCO's latest rantings, a 48 hour warning to AIX users. Well, you cared enough to read deep into the comments and spam them with your stupid, "Slashdot Editors Suck" post. Let's look at your other posts. Yep that's what I thought, pure troll without a single tech post demonstrating ownereship or care of anything.
Twitter takes down his Open Linux 2.3 box and reads the side again. The bottom of the box has a bix C, Caldera systems. The top of the box promisses, "Thre CDs Include: .... Office Productivity Applixware 4.4.2, StarOffice 5.1, WordPerfect8, Daily scheduler/organizer, calender, calculator"
Sometimes the truth is this and that.