I always laugh when people make the "Photoshop versus Gimp" comparison.
It's not like there is only Photoshop or Gimp to choose from. There are tons of nice apps for image work (not on Linux, of course)
I personally like the Micrografx products. (I started using In-A-Vision, the predecessor of Designer, back when it was bundled with a Windows 1.03 runtime.) Right now you can get a boxed set with Flowcharter, Designer, Picture Publisher, some light duty 3-D modeling stuff, and tons of fonts and clipart for $60 retail. Picture Publisher definitely isn't Photoshop, but it's about the same as the Gimp. And the other programs in the package are good stuff. I've always thought the Corel stuff sucked in comparison. The flowchart program is really, really good. Much better than Visio.
Don't be so parochial. There is tons of software development already going on in India. India has very productive large companies and lots of skilled programmers, who will work for far, far less than American programmers. A lot of companies contract out huge development projects to Indian developers. IBM, for instance.
But laws will be enforced (they already exist), and hackers will find themselves in deep trouble.
People have a way of figuring out what is right and wrong. The ones who don't, or won't... they had their chance. There will always be drudgery jobs that need to be filled. Obviously we don't need rocks broken up, but there's always road construction work, etc.
Everybody is continually assuming that little dinks who mess around where they aren't supposed to be is a fact of life, that putting your toaster (to use the popular example) online means some pimply teenager is going to set it on high and burn a hole in your kitchen counter.
As the technology becomes more mainstream, 'script kiddies' aren't going to be tolerated. Look at it this way: right now a screen window in the summer is pretty awful security. Think about it. Anybody with a pen-knife can cut his way in and steal your toaster! Why doesn't that happen? Because people who do that get locked away reasonably fast. So people aren't afraid to sleep at night in the summer with a screened window open (in many localities). A few jail cells full of hackers will solve the problem. Kids (and overgrown kids in adult form) just need their hands slapped a little, and things pretty much correct themselves.
I've never understood why people think that technology renders morality obsolete. It doesn't.
I for one brought the television set out of storage just this afternoon after months of storage out in the garage (wrapped in plastic)
My TV set is a Zenith 19" Black-and-white set (has to be one of the last ever produced) that I paid $5 for at a thrift store.
Oh, I do have one other set that I very selcom use. It's an active-matrix LCD Set with a 2-1/2" screen. It's more of a cool geek gadget than a television set, though.
I have a 19" Sony SVGA monitor that I stare at much more than any crappy television set. I have been thinking about getting a TV card or USB video converter for it... naw, there's so seldom anything worth seeing on Television in color anyway. In the past I've faithfully watched hundreds of hours of "The Simpsons" in black and white.
And if you're really, really, really paranoid, you'll realize that you can't ever really read all the source, yourself, and expect to understand where the back door is hidden. Obfuscated code is nothing new.
Plus, the fact that you build it from source means that the source lives on your machine somewhere, where it can be corrupted by other processes. And it probably links against library code when it builds. That means you'd better check all the library code as well. It only takes one slip into your machine from the outside to plant something there.
And forget it, if you thought installing via RPMs was a good idea. Or do you look at the contents of each and every RPM before you install it?
Anyway, just a heads up, because people assume that Open Source offers tremendously greater security. It doesn't. In some cases it's somewhat better. In other ways, it presents new problems.
Isn't life complicated? Isn't life fun? I think so.
NCSA Mosaic, 1993. Before certain forces ran west with the source code, closed it, started strip-mining it for profits, and paradoxically became heroes of the Open Source crowd. (later re-opening the source after making an incredible mess of it)
The cheering on of Netscape has always been one of the big paradoxes for me.
You forgot to mention that Linux's implementation of NFS stinks so badly that people openly advocate Samba (SMB- something Microsoft pretty much 'owns' at this point) as the filesharing protocol of choice. I've seen Linux Journal columnists openly suggest this, when asked about Unix-to-Unix filesystem connectivity between Linux and other Unices.
There is almost nothing at all innovative in the Linux universe. Any real innovation is brought in from the Unix world in general (where innovation does occur, which Linux shares in)
They're playing the part of "Hordes of Peasants" at the moment.
Don't worry, there are and will be fat-cats at the top of the GNU kingdom. No self-proclaimed meritocracy ever gets by on merit alone.
Don't throw away your copy of whatever the name of the "Who" song is that goes "We won't be fooled again" because it'll be appropriate again before long. (Rob, chime in here...)
This message was constructed on a 100% Microsoft computer
Now be honest there. My computer here is running Windows 98SE, I am using IE5 to type this, and it has Office 2000 integrated with it for editing and spellchecking, etc. And I got rid of the "sound card problem" awhile back by installing Microsoft's cool USB-interface speakers. But I am willing to recognize there are parts of the system that are non-Microsoft, and I am glad for it. Adobe makes many fine products, which are included in my computer. Micrografx makes fine image editing software at a low price. And I have a Logitech keyboard beside my Microsoft Wheel Mouse. (I am thinking of trying out one of the new Microsoft keyboards that isn't "heat damaged" (they call it "ergonomic for some reason).
On my NT machine over there I have Interix installed. Do you know that Microsoft now owns Interix? Do you know that Interix is a compliant and certified Posix API (something Linux only wishes it could be!). Did you know that the Interix package includes GCC? Yes! Microsoft is now in the business of distributing a version of GCC to run on Windows NT (both i386 and Alpha releases).
Anyway, no machine is 100% Microsoft, unless it has gaping holes in it, because contrary to public opinion Microsoft doesn't have a product line that encompasses the entire Personal Computer Market.
When Bill Gates said about a year ago (and I paraphrase) that "He regrets that Microsoft has to have this kind of a presence in Washington", what he was getting at is that Microsoft has always competed in the marketplace, not by toadying to politicians (also known as "lobbying"). Now, if Microsoft opponents want to make their "hero" out of the Larry Ellison sort of sales-slime, it's really a shame. If we want government imposed standards and rules applied in the sphere of the computer software and hardware, we just need to keep it up.
That's the biggest load of it that one can imagine. Caldera could not have afforded DR-DOS if it wasn't a failed product (for various reasons I am not going to dispute here).
This is a corporate-sized case of the ambulance chasing lawyer. With or without Microsoft's guilt, Caldera should get nothing.
Ray Noorda (the soreheaded ex-Novell exec who runs Caldera) is engaging in this activity because of his personal hatred of Bill Gates. It's really unfortunate, because Caldera is using Linux as a budgeon to pound on Microsoft for the exact same purpose. They don't have any of the vision of Red Hat.
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I always laugh when people make the "Photoshop versus Gimp" comparison.
It's not like there is only Photoshop or Gimp to choose from. There are tons of nice apps for image work (not on Linux, of course)
I personally like the Micrografx products. (I started using In-A-Vision, the predecessor of Designer, back when it was bundled with a Windows 1.03 runtime.) Right now you can get a boxed set with Flowcharter, Designer, Picture Publisher, some light duty 3-D modeling stuff, and tons of fonts and clipart for $60 retail. Picture Publisher definitely isn't Photoshop, but it's about the same as the Gimp. And the other programs in the package are good stuff. I've always thought the Corel stuff sucked in comparison. The flowchart program is really, really good. Much better than Visio.
Don't be so parochial. There is tons of software development already going on in India. India has very productive large companies and lots of skilled programmers, who will work for far, far less than American programmers. A lot of companies contract out huge development projects to Indian developers. IBM, for instance.
One of the other differences is that Conservatives are, well... conservative. Libertarians are, well, radicals.
So, what will America think after it learns that Microsoft is a cheater?
They will think that those creeps in Washington are at it again.
Obviously it's just Microsoft.
(waiting for rim-shot and cheering from Slashdot crowd)
If Microsoft hadn't come out with IE, Netscape would now own the 'net with their Navigator product, and we all know they would be a good monopoly.
Because they're not Microsoft.
What does feel-good soft journalism have to do with FUD?
I think you better find out what the letters F U D stand for.
You just described a public relations stunt.
That isn't FUD.
Actually, do put your house on the net.
And vote in a political representative not afraid to spend a few tax dollars on jail cells for criminals who engage in trespass.
Why do people feel the need to make it more complicated than that?
The death penalty seems a bit extreme.
But laws will be enforced (they already exist), and hackers will find themselves in deep trouble.
People have a way of figuring out what is right and wrong. The ones who don't, or won't... they had their chance. There will always be drudgery jobs that need to be filled. Obviously we don't need rocks broken up, but there's always road construction work, etc.
Everybody is continually assuming that little dinks who mess around where they aren't supposed to be is a fact of life, that putting your toaster (to use the popular example) online means some pimply teenager is going to set it on high and burn a hole in your kitchen counter.
As the technology becomes more mainstream, 'script kiddies' aren't going to be tolerated. Look at it this way: right now a screen window in the summer is pretty awful security. Think about it. Anybody with a pen-knife can cut his way in and steal your toaster! Why doesn't that happen? Because people who do that get locked away reasonably fast. So people aren't afraid to sleep at night in the summer with a screened window open (in many localities). A few jail cells full of hackers will solve the problem. Kids (and overgrown kids in adult form) just need their hands slapped a little, and things pretty much correct themselves.
I've never understood why people think that technology renders morality obsolete. It doesn't.
What happens to MY health insurance rate if you're on my plan and live on buttered poptarts and Coors, and nobody finds out until it's too late?
Interesting question.
I for one brought the television set out of storage just this afternoon after months of storage out in the garage (wrapped in plastic)
My TV set is a Zenith 19" Black-and-white set (has to be one of the last ever produced) that I paid $5 for at a thrift store.
Oh, I do have one other set that I very selcom use. It's an active-matrix LCD Set with a 2-1/2" screen. It's more of a cool geek gadget than a television set, though.
I have a 19" Sony SVGA monitor that I stare at much more than any crappy television set. I have been thinking about getting a TV card or USB video converter for it... naw, there's so seldom anything worth seeing on Television in color anyway. In the past I've faithfully watched hundreds of hours of "The Simpsons" in black and white.
Believe me, the US Government is eagerly working on eliminating cash for as many transactions as possible.
It's so much easier to trace exactly what people are spending their money on in a cash-less society.
Not too many people run RTLinux on the desktop.
Which version of 2.2 is certified?
Hey, the Gimp looks nice on an X desktop. So does Mozilla (built it on my NetBSD machine awhile back, it looks fine there)
The Free Unix world does not revolve around Netscape.
And if you're really, really, really paranoid, you'll realize that you can't ever really read all the source, yourself, and expect to understand where the back door is hidden. Obfuscated code is nothing new.
Plus, the fact that you build it from source means that the source lives on your machine somewhere, where it can be corrupted by other processes. And it probably links against library code when it builds. That means you'd better check all the library code as well. It only takes one slip into your machine from the outside to plant something there.
And forget it, if you thought installing via RPMs was a good idea. Or do you look at the contents of each and every RPM before you install it?
Anyway, just a heads up, because people assume that Open Source offers tremendously greater security. It doesn't. In some cases it's somewhat better. In other ways, it presents new problems.
Isn't life complicated? Isn't life fun? I think so.
Yikes! Maybe not even that!
Maybe not a shill for any particular interest.
NCSA Mosaic, 1993. Before certain forces ran west with the source code, closed it, started strip-mining it for profits, and paradoxically became heroes of the Open Source crowd. (later re-opening the source after making an incredible mess of it)
The cheering on of Netscape has always been one of the big paradoxes for me.
You forgot to mention that Linux's implementation of NFS stinks so badly that people openly advocate Samba (SMB- something Microsoft pretty much 'owns' at this point) as the filesharing protocol of choice. I've seen Linux Journal columnists openly suggest this, when asked about Unix-to-Unix filesystem connectivity between Linux and other Unices.
There is almost nothing at all innovative in the Linux universe. Any real innovation is brought in from the Unix world in general (where innovation does occur, which Linux shares in)
They're playing the part of "Hordes of Peasants" at the moment.
Don't worry, there are and will be fat-cats at the top of the GNU kingdom. No self-proclaimed meritocracy ever gets by on merit alone.
Don't throw away your copy of whatever the name of the "Who" song is that goes "We won't be fooled again" because it'll be appropriate again before long. (Rob, chime in here...)
This message was constructed on a 100% Microsoft computer
Now be honest there. My computer here is running Windows 98SE, I am using IE5 to type this, and it has Office 2000 integrated with it for editing and spellchecking, etc. And I got rid of the "sound card problem" awhile back by installing Microsoft's cool USB-interface speakers. But I am willing to recognize there are parts of the system that are non-Microsoft, and I am glad for it. Adobe makes many fine products, which are included in my computer. Micrografx makes fine image editing software at a low price. And I have a Logitech keyboard beside my Microsoft Wheel Mouse. (I am thinking of trying out one of the new Microsoft keyboards that isn't "heat damaged" (they call it "ergonomic for some reason).
On my NT machine over there I have Interix installed. Do you know that Microsoft now owns Interix? Do you know that Interix is a compliant and certified Posix API (something Linux only wishes it could be!). Did you know that the Interix package includes GCC? Yes! Microsoft is now in the business of distributing a version of GCC to run on Windows NT (both i386 and Alpha releases).
Anyway, no machine is 100% Microsoft, unless it has gaping holes in it, because contrary to public opinion Microsoft doesn't have a product line that encompasses the entire Personal Computer Market.
Just felt a need to remind you.
When Bill Gates said about a year ago (and I paraphrase) that "He regrets that Microsoft has to have this kind of a presence in Washington", what he was getting at is that Microsoft has always competed in the marketplace, not by toadying to politicians (also known as "lobbying"). Now, if Microsoft opponents want to make their "hero" out of the Larry Ellison sort of sales-slime, it's really a shame. If we want government imposed standards and rules applied in the sphere of the computer software and hardware, we just need to keep it up.
Five years from now we'll regret it, of course.
Obviously this isn't big news. It's banner revenue-producing, though. It will continue.
Bill Gates is a geek. You're making fun of his geekyness.
If current or past poster-boys Linux Torvalds or Mark Andreesen acted that way in front of a camera, they would be praised for being authentic.
This forum is, needless to say, full of hypocritical jerks looking for any way to pry a knife into Microsoft.
That's the biggest load of it that one can imagine. Caldera could not have afforded DR-DOS if it wasn't a failed product (for various reasons I am not going to dispute here).
This is a corporate-sized case of the ambulance chasing lawyer. With or without Microsoft's guilt, Caldera should get nothing.
Ray Noorda (the soreheaded ex-Novell exec who runs Caldera) is engaging in this activity because of his personal hatred of Bill Gates. It's really unfortunate, because Caldera is using Linux as a budgeon to pound on Microsoft for the exact same purpose. They don't have any of the vision of Red Hat.