I think that the assumption is that since the patent was filed in 1996 someone must show prior art before 1996.
This of course is the flaw (one of at least) in the patent system. Two people can come up with a patentable idea at the at the same time, but it's the one who has the money to file the patent first gets it. It all really hinges on the definition of prior art as well. I believe that prior art has to be a public demonstration of the concept. Which is really fair for a company that worked ten years on a kick ass product only to have the rug pulled out from under them by another company patenting a lesser version of the same idea.
Of course I don't know why I bother the whole patent idea is bogus. But it does irritate me that it's so expensive to get a patent. Instead of throwing money into welfare programs that encourage laziness (I know they don't all, but most do) let's throw tax money into research areas, such as reducing the cost of filing a patent (or removing the cost completely). Yeah, yeah I'd be just as mad when companies got their patents for free and there are tons of issues that would be involved in something like this (as I'm sure plenty of people will point out), but it could possibly help improve the patent system as well as make me feel alot better about where the my money (stolen by the government) is going.
EVERYBODY doesn't know anything. Science is NOT a world where everything is fair.
Let's start with the term EVERYBODY. Your use of the word has implicit assumptions that you consider self evident truths. Does EVERYBODY include the five year old down the street? I guess it's not EVERYBODY then is it. Your assumption on the meaning of everybody is vague and ambiguous. Thus the need for explicitly written rules and any loophole in the agreed upon rules is valid. Regardless of whether EVERYBODY knew what the intent was. This is a case of smug idiot screwing up the rules to his challenge.
As far as science being fair. Fair to whom? That's a completely meaningless statement. why don't you elaborate and show how science is FAIR?
Are there any jobs going that would require me to learn and apply this ?
For some people jobs aren't the motivational force in their life, I know it's hard to believe, but some people value knowledge and intellectual exploration over the pursuit of money.
That being said. Yes having a strong grounding in math does help with programming. Maybe no company would require you to learn and apply it (though I would run to a company that was more about research flavored things like this if I could), but it could make you a better programmer.
You summed it up nicely yourself. It does look like fun.
Hmmm maybe people are wising up and realizing that singles are a waste of money. Maybe the music that came out last year was crap. There's no direct cause and effect that can be proven.
Number one. The question of whether or not it is stealing is in doubt. Stealing means I've deprived them of something. If I take nothing away, I have not stolen. And yes there are scenarios where this can be shown, but there's no reason to rehash those over and over. But I will say that in the case of Music sales, I find it quite ironic that the RIAA was forced to report an INCREASSE in sales last year.
Uh, no. RIAA does not have all rights to decrypt information I encrypted. They don't know what the encrypted information is before decryption. Indeed it's conceivable that decrypted using one method results in a letter to mom, and another way in a piece of copyrighted music.
Uh again you're wrong, if open source code was used in such a way as to PREVENT it's spread not ENABLE it, then we would cry foul.
Alexandria, Va.-based Relatable's technology identifies music based on the recordings themselves and analyzes the acoustical properties of a recording's waveform to identify it precisely, regardless of its audio format, bit rate or minor signal distortion, the companies said.
Does it recognize mp3's that are backwards? How about zipped? There are dozens of ways around this. Ok so now people won't have to scramble file names, they'll scramble the file itself. Better yet let's encrypt a whole file sharing site. Maybe we can rope the RIAA into violating the DMCA either by breaking our encryption, or violating our terms of use:
TOS: Article 5: You may not use this service in anyway if you are a member, or in the employ of the RIAA. You may not speak of the specifics of this site in any manner outside this site...
As much as Microsoft annoys me and despite all windows' bugs, I don't believe I'll ever see the day that Linux-style open source will ever create a user experience that rivals windows--end to end system that allows the user to do everything that they need and want to do
In a work envirmonment I have to agree. Windows gives them more time to do everything they want to do... like go have a smoke while they reboot their machines for the third time that day.
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Yes and QT is under a public license... so what.
Personally I don't care if users would rather shoot themselves in the head... oh wait a minute. That'd definiteley make the world a better place.
I happen to like existing Linux UI's. The command line is a particular favorite of mine. But I like the GUI's too, which would be the ones with windowing for those of you out there that don't know the difference.
Regardless, Gnome, KDE, it's all the same to me. It still takes me less effort to get more work done than anyone ever will with Winblows or Mac.
I should have rephrased that, it was late. If the majority of the people decide it should be LEGAL than it will be made legal. At least that is how it is supposed to work. Legality is not a question of right and wrong at all.
Not necessarily true at all. Number one, if enough people are doing it, it is no longer wrong. Majority rules. Sorry that's the way it works.
MPAA... variety, no way. The companies that make up the MPAA put out mostly trash. Even bands that were incredible pre-major label are ruined by going commercial.
Ummm small bands benefit from the spread of their music to a wider audience. I've heard many up and comers use the same arguments you have with the opposite conclusion.
Actually true anarchy is a better solution... if not practical due to human nature. Our system is not the 'least worst' of any thing. It's just one way. Is there a better way, yes. Do I know what it is, no. But that doesn't mean we stop looking. and it certainly doesn't mean we just sit back and take it when corporations decide to abuse the system. As far as screw the man goes, I'll be the first to admit that I have serious problems with authority. Does that make me wrong, certainly not. I will always bitch when someone tries to tell me what I can or cannot do when I have the ability to make those judgements myself. This is a case of freedom of expression. I believe, and it is suppose to be the values of this country that the rights of the individual are more important than those of a company. And yet continually, the rights of the individual are squashed over the perceived rights of companies.
So yeah I guess I do have a better workable idea. It's called a democracy, something that this country is not. But luckily, the laws of this country are mutable and allow us to try and change for the better. Whether it is through simple acts of defiance, or any other method.
I STILL think you're on crack. But at least it's entertaining.
However, even by your reaoning an eel is an animal by PETA standards. They're generally preety gung ho about protecting all animals, even the ones that aren't cuddly. I think the only animal that they don't include is humans.
yeah theme editor: primary purpose creating own themes...OWN themes... OWN themes
Back to the guns though. Throwing bullets at dangerous speeds through the air for what? Killing animals, self defense. Regardless of how you put it its dumb. It's only dangerous when it's ill used. It's the responsibility of the operator, not the manufacturer.
They should never be given legal protection on something like a theme in the first place.
Apple: You have a blue background and a white cursor.
User:Yeah so?
Apple:That's not a mac.
User:So what?
Apple:You can only use a blue background and a white mouse on Apple computers, we have trademark right. Here is your cease and desist order, prepare to be taken to court for damages.
Yes that's the best part about the world today. You know I don't see other enablers getting sued. Otherwise gun manufacturers would be gone in a week. You cannot prosecute the tool creator. It's the end user who puts it to use in whatever way they see fit(that's from my department of redundancy department). It makes me sick.
FU Apple. I am so damn sick of corporations telling me what I can or cannot do. to hell with their gad damn licenses. I can reverse engineer anything I want. This is beginning to get out of hand.
Theres a big difference between academic journals and 2600. One is research oriented, one is practical. you can't say you got more useful information from either one. that's a meaningless statement. If you want information on computer science ACM and IEEE would be more useful than 2600. If you wanted some immediately applicable information 2600 would be more useful. ASM is Computer Science, 2600 is not.
Bullshit. The word hacker was applied to skillful coders first. Yeah lagaunge changes, and as a result of the ignorant media mostly. It has nothing to do with childishness. It the same thing that happened to the work 'skinhead' until the racists came along and decided that they wanted to be skinheads too, skinheads didn't have a negative connotation. Now all the average person knows about is the evil nazi skinhead portrayed in the media. Never the anti-racist, hard working blue collar REAL skinhead. The same thing is happening to the word hacker. The logical conclusion to your argument is that the ignorant people are going to have their way anyway so why fight their stupidity. That's a load of crap. I hate to compare it to trademarks, but the idea is the same. Of course corporations get to protect their names, groups of people can have them usurped by any ignorant assholes that come along.
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Why yes it is. Born, raised, dominated by.
This of course is the flaw (one of at least) in the patent system. Two people can come up with a patentable idea at the at the same time, but it's the one who has the money to file the patent first gets it. It all really hinges on the definition of prior art as well. I believe that prior art has to be a public demonstration of the concept. Which is really fair for a company that worked ten years on a kick ass product only to have the rug pulled out from under them by another company patenting a lesser version of the same idea.
Of course I don't know why I bother the whole patent idea is bogus. But it does irritate me that it's so expensive to get a patent. Instead of throwing money into welfare programs that encourage laziness (I know they don't all, but most do) let's throw tax money into research areas, such as reducing the cost of filing a patent (or removing the cost completely). Yeah, yeah I'd be just as mad when companies got their patents for free and there are tons of issues that would be involved in something like this (as I'm sure plenty of people will point out), but it could possibly help improve the patent system as well as make me feel alot better about where the my money (stolen by the government) is going.
Wow, if I had mod points I'd mod you up for that response... not only a description... but clips too.
Let's start with the term EVERYBODY. Your use of the word has implicit assumptions that you consider self evident truths. Does EVERYBODY include the five year old down the street? I guess it's not EVERYBODY then is it. Your assumption on the meaning of everybody is vague and ambiguous. Thus the need for explicitly written rules and any loophole in the agreed upon rules is valid. Regardless of whether EVERYBODY knew what the intent was. This is a case of smug idiot screwing up the rules to his challenge.
As far as science being fair. Fair to whom? That's a completely meaningless statement. why don't you elaborate and show how science is FAIR?
So, please enlighten the rest of us. I for one am interested.
Are there any jobs going that would require me to learn and apply this ?
For some people jobs aren't the motivational force in their life, I know it's hard to believe, but some people value knowledge and intellectual exploration over the pursuit of money.
That being said. Yes having a strong grounding in math does help with programming. Maybe no company would require you to learn and apply it (though I would run to a company that was more about research flavored things like this if I could), but it could make you a better programmer.
You summed it up nicely yourself. It does look like fun.
Hmmm maybe people are wising up and realizing that singles are a waste of money. Maybe the music that came out last year was crap. There's no direct cause and effect that can be proven.
Uh, no. RIAA does not have all rights to decrypt information I encrypted. They don't know what the encrypted information is before decryption. Indeed it's conceivable that decrypted using one method results in a letter to mom, and another way in a piece of copyrighted music.
Uh again you're wrong, if open source code was used in such a way as to PREVENT it's spread not ENABLE it, then we would cry foul.
Does it recognize mp3's that are backwards? How about zipped? There are dozens of ways around this. Ok so now people won't have to scramble file names, they'll scramble the file itself. Better yet let's encrypt a whole file sharing site. Maybe we can rope the RIAA into violating the DMCA either by breaking our encryption, or violating our terms of use:
TOS: Article 5: You may not use this service in anyway if you are a member, or in the employ of the RIAA. You may not speak of the specifics of this site in any manner outside this site...
Well you get the point.
As much as Microsoft annoys me and despite all windows' bugs, I don't believe I'll ever see the day that Linux-style open source will ever create a user experience that rivals windows--end to end system that allows the user to do everything that they need and want to do In a work envirmonment I have to agree. Windows gives them more time to do everything they want to do... like go have a smoke while they reboot their machines for the third time that day.
Yes and QT is under a public license... so what.
Personally I don't care if users would rather shoot themselves in the head... oh wait a minute. That'd definiteley make the world a better place.
I happen to like existing Linux UI's. The command line is a particular favorite of mine. But I like the GUI's too, which would be the ones with windowing for those of you out there that don't know the difference.
Regardless, Gnome, KDE, it's all the same to me. It still takes me less effort to get more work done than anyone ever will with Winblows or Mac.
I should have rephrased that, it was late. If the majority of the people decide it should be LEGAL than it will be made legal. At least that is how it is supposed to work. Legality is not a question of right and wrong at all.
MPAA... variety, no way. The companies that make up the MPAA put out mostly trash. Even bands that were incredible pre-major label are ruined by going commercial.
Ummm small bands benefit from the spread of their music to a wider audience. I've heard many up and comers use the same arguments you have with the opposite conclusion.
So yeah I guess I do have a better workable idea. It's called a democracy, something that this country is not. But luckily, the laws of this country are mutable and allow us to try and change for the better. Whether it is through simple acts of defiance, or any other method.
However, even by your reaoning an eel is an animal by PETA standards. They're generally preety gung ho about protecting all animals, even the ones that aren't cuddly. I think the only animal that they don't include is humans.
Seriously, the brain had to come from somewhere, unless we are now growing eel brains in a test tube. In which case PETA would still get involved.
Back to the guns though. Throwing bullets at dangerous speeds through the air for what? Killing animals, self defense. Regardless of how you put it its dumb. It's only dangerous when it's ill used. It's the responsibility of the operator, not the manufacturer.
... that's ridiculous. What's next? I know I'll hit you with a wrench and you can sue Craftsman. Whatta load.
... of course I'm sure PETA will catch wind of this sooner or later.
Apple: You have a blue background and a white cursor.
User:Yeah so?
Apple:That's not a mac.
User:So what?
Apple:You can only use a blue background and a white mouse on Apple computers, we have trademark right. Here is your cease and desist order, prepare to be taken to court for damages.
Yes that's the best part about the world today. You know I don't see other enablers getting sued. Otherwise gun manufacturers would be gone in a week. You cannot prosecute the tool creator. It's the end user who puts it to use in whatever way they see fit(that's from my department of redundancy department). It makes me sick.
FU Apple. I am so damn sick of corporations telling me what I can or cannot do. to hell with their gad damn licenses. I can reverse engineer anything I want. This is beginning to get out of hand.
How long before CueCat comes down on this one as improper use?
Theres a big difference between academic journals and 2600. One is research oriented, one is practical. you can't say you got more useful information from either one. that's a meaningless statement. If you want information on computer science ACM and IEEE would be more useful than 2600. If you wanted some immediately applicable information 2600 would be more useful. ASM is Computer Science, 2600 is not.
Bullshit. The word hacker was applied to skillful coders first. Yeah lagaunge changes, and as a result of the ignorant media mostly. It has nothing to do with childishness. It the same thing that happened to the work 'skinhead' until the racists came along and decided that they wanted to be skinheads too, skinheads didn't have a negative connotation. Now all the average person knows about is the evil nazi skinhead portrayed in the media. Never the anti-racist, hard working blue collar REAL skinhead. The same thing is happening to the word hacker. The logical conclusion to your argument is that the ignorant people are going to have their way anyway so why fight their stupidity. That's a load of crap. I hate to compare it to trademarks, but the idea is the same. Of course corporations get to protect their names, groups of people can have them usurped by any ignorant assholes that come along.