no one here seems to acknowledge macromedia products here, slashdot readers amkes the world seems to be php and mysql based... mysql is not a proper relational database (yet).... just becase something is free doesn't mean it's the best solution... when a developer costs more than one software license per day, the argument looks a little weak..
the real agurment here is how long does it take to develop out of the box a simple or complex application... cold fusion is simple a much faster language, yes it's actually more 4gl than 3gl, but what are u trying to do? pull some data out of the database and display it....
in cf that means 2 tags (opened and closed) and var names and html
<cfquery name="test" datasource="localserver">
select name, email, description
from users
where active = 1
order by name </cfquery>
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the real agurment here is how long does it take to develop out of the box a simple or complex application... cold fusion is simple a much faster language, yes it's actually more 4gl than 3gl, but what are u trying to do? pull some data out of the database and display it....
in cf that means 2 tags (opened and closed) and var names and html
<cfquery name="test" datasource="localserver">
select name, email, description
from users
where active = 1
order by name
</cfquery>
<cfoutput query="test">
#name# - #email#
#description#
</cfoutput>
looks quite clean huh?
why not look at at coldfusion mx, a j2ee application server, where the tag based language makes things simple and you can always fall back to java.
The when you want a more complex decent ui than is possible with html, use flash, w3c dom is great but not so prevalent..
and flash makes for a much for reliable user expierence than dhtml