Do MS want this? If not, it will go the way WinOS/2 did under OS/2: they won't get their source contract renewed for Win2000/1/2 or whatever.
Or they could be bought back, the product delayed 8 month and then delivered with half the planned features, like with Citrix.
And better still: one of the (MANY) things that killed off OS/2 commercially was the lack of serious businness software: all this because all developers always preferred a Win version, because "it works on OS/2 too". Almost: the 'emulation' was never up to the real thing, the and you always had a lot of problems with win apps. Even IBM did this.
I'd really like to see such a thing, but I would not consider it so important like many here. It can be useful, but it won't alleviate the 'desktop software problem', at the contrary it would only become worse.
Maybe good ol' Larry could take a look at Linux Terminal Server Project here. It has not been done by what I'd call Linux experts (ahem), but sure it is interesting.
Now, if I only could find an IBM RIPL implementation that works on Token Rings cards... 8-)
Yes, as I said in my previous reply, it was the standard update from 5.2 to 6.0, and OBVIOUSLY it was NOT on a production machine, but on a test one that thank goodness had a test PG database on it, so that I could spot the problem.
Back to security fixes: when you (RedHat) discover a security breach in a package, you are in a hurry to fix it, so the likeliness of a misconfigured update is high: they sure do their tests, but erorr is alwais possible;-)
Then your option is to wait for the security fix to be tested by someone else, or by yourself on a production machine. Not an option if you are a 'target' site for whatever reason, but that's the same thing that happens with NT: I usually install a SP al least a month later, unless it fixes a really important (and usually stupid;) secbug.
It was not a security patch, but the standard upgrade that RedHat 6.0 installer does on a 5.2, after you select to update an old version. The right thing to do for the installer was to NOT upgrade the Postgres, and maybe signal the necessity for a manual backup/upgrade/restore.
You type 'rpm --freshen' and the next that happens is that you lose your PostgreSQL Database, since version 6.n data files are NOT compatible with version 6.n+1. And this is just an example.
Never use automatic updates on production machines: even if RedHat (or Debian or SuSE or [put your favorite distribution name here]) use maximum attention creating packages and packages rules, you can't be guarantee that all will work everywhere. And if you need a demo, read what happens whith NT and their monolithic service packs: in SP1, it was 'dir A:' -> machine resets...;-)
It seems thet now there is a public use band around 2.4 GHz, for low power radio devices (here in EU, Moreover, I think that the X10 people are selling some devices that use this band to send DVD Video/MP3 Audio from the computer to the stereo/home theatre.
Since in Italy (and in more than half European Countries) we still have state-monopoly-controlled telecoms that charges you OUTRAGEOUS fares to connect a building to the one across the street, they are quite popular here. I'm looking to use 2 Lucent units (that comes as PCMCIA cards only) to connect our HQ to a satellite building nearby. Max range is about 5Km (2.5 miles, I think:), frequency is 2.4x GHz. Power is around 10 mW at 1 meter from antenna (or less, otherwise they won't be allowed here). The modulation should be a slight variaton of Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum, that is very well known by your 'friend' at the Pentagon, since it's very hard to intercept (on a single frequency the signal level is only a few mW above noise level) and works well even with a lot of unit in the same area.
And yes, if you buy the 'concentrator' unit, you could simply plug it into your ethernet network and have it working as a bridge.
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Just my 0.006 Euro... ;-)
Do MS want this? If not, it will go the way WinOS/2 did under OS/2: they won't get their source contract renewed for Win2000/1/2 or whatever.
Or they could be bought back, the product delayed 8 month and then delivered with half the planned features, like with Citrix.
And better still: one of the (MANY) things that killed off OS/2 commercially was the lack of serious businness software: all this because all developers always preferred a Win version, because "it works on OS/2 too". Almost: the 'emulation' was never up to the real thing, the and you always had a lot of problems with win apps. Even IBM did this.
I'd really like to see such a thing, but I would not consider it so important like many here. It can be useful, but it won't alleviate the 'desktop software problem', at the contrary it would only become worse.
Bye,
Rob!
Maybe good ol' Larry could take a look at Linux Terminal Server Project here.
It has not been done by what I'd call Linux experts (ahem), but sure it is interesting.
Now, if I only could find an IBM RIPL implementation that works on Token Rings cards... 8-)
Bye, Rob!
Yes, as I said in my previous reply, it was the standard update from 5.2 to 6.0, and OBVIOUSLY it was NOT on a production machine, but on a test one that thank goodness had a test PG database on it, so that I could spot the problem.
;-)
;) secbug.
Back to security fixes: when you (RedHat) discover a security breach in a package, you are in a hurry to fix it, so the likeliness of a misconfigured update is high: they sure do their tests, but erorr is alwais possible
Then your option is to wait for the security fix to be tested by someone else, or by yourself on a production machine. Not an option if you are a 'target' site for whatever reason, but that's the same thing that happens with NT: I usually install a SP al least a month later, unless it fixes a really important (and usually stupid
Bye,
Rob!
It was not a security patch, but the standard upgrade that RedHat 6.0 installer does on a 5.2, after you select to update an old version.
The right thing to do for the installer was to NOT upgrade the Postgres, and maybe signal the necessity for a manual backup/upgrade/restore.
Bye,
Rob!
You type 'rpm --freshen' and the next that happens is that you lose your PostgreSQL Database, since version 6.n data files are NOT compatible with version 6.n+1. And this is just an example.
;-)
Never use automatic updates on production machines: even if RedHat (or Debian or SuSE or [put your favorite distribution name here]) use maximum attention creating packages and packages rules, you can't be guarantee that all will work everywhere. And if you need a demo, read what happens whith NT and their monolithic service packs: in SP1, it was 'dir A:' -> machine resets...
Bye,
Rob!
It seems thet now there is a public use band around 2.4 GHz, for low power radio devices (here in EU,
Moreover, I think that the X10 people are selling some devices that use this band to send DVD Video/MP3 Audio from the computer to the stereo/home theatre.
Since in Italy (and in more than half European Countries) we still have state-monopoly-controlled telecoms that charges you OUTRAGEOUS fares to connect a building to the one across the street, they are quite popular here. :), frequency is 2.4x GHz. Power is around 10 mW at 1 meter from antenna (or less, otherwise they won't be allowed here).
I'm looking to use 2 Lucent units (that comes as PCMCIA cards only) to connect our HQ to a satellite building nearby.
Max range is about 5Km (2.5 miles, I think
The modulation should be a slight variaton of Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum, that is very well known by your 'friend' at the Pentagon, since it's very hard to intercept (on a single frequency the signal level is only a few mW above noise level) and works well even with a lot of unit in the same area.
And yes, if you buy the 'concentrator' unit, you could simply plug it into your ethernet network and have it working as a bridge.
Ciao,
Rob!