And, I fully agree. In addition, I agree Caldera did take the hush money from our present "mafia" if you will. But, the term criminal is a very basic one; one who breaks a law. I am guilty, and anyone else who has gotten a speeding ticket and paid it, or does not get caught, falls into that group.
So, we agree MS can be classified as criminals.
In the end, this is a mute point. Criminal is just a word. Its the actions that group, individual, company, country, etc, etc, etc, that give weight to them or take from it.
And in most I am in agreement with you. But, MS is not without an at least a very gray past in the business world when dealing with competitors, and competing ideas. That includes strong arm tactics with vendors/competition (Dell, Symentec, Caldera, all spring to mind) and the like. But as you mentioned in other threads, who would be willing to stand up and challenge the full might of a company of that standing? And does settling make the actions no longer criminal(i.e. Caldera)?
"The term "criminal" has a very specific meaning in the US that includes being found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" (I'm sure there are countries in the world where such a high standard is considered "inconvenient" by the government)."
Just because a conviction has not been rendered does not make the action any less criminal.
MS is a multi-national corp. and have to abide by the rules, regulation and laws of the countries they wish to do business in. In the definition of "criminal" at no point in that definition does it specify this carries special boundries, or limits for US companies.
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Typo:
- So, we agree MS can be classified as criminals.
should have been
+ So, we agree MS could be classified as criminals.
Sry for the mistake.
And, I fully agree. In addition, I agree Caldera did take the hush money from our present "mafia" if you will. But, the term criminal is a very basic one; one who breaks a law. I am guilty, and anyone else who has gotten a speeding ticket and paid it, or does not get caught, falls into that group.
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So, we agree MS can be classified as criminals.
In the end, this is a mute point. Criminal is just a word. Its the actions that group, individual, company, country, etc, etc, etc, that give weight to them or take from it.
Responsibility.
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ref:
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+emails+focus+on+DR-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/600488.stm
(the one comment about pulling the trigger on Novell just fits sooo nice)
Excellent response,
And in most I am in agreement with you. But, MS is not without an at least a very gray past in the business world when dealing with competitors, and competing ideas. That includes strong arm tactics with vendors/competition (Dell, Symentec, Caldera, all spring to mind) and the like. But as you mentioned in other threads, who would be willing to stand up and challenge the full might of a company of that standing? And does settling make the actions no longer criminal(i.e. Caldera)?
Just because a conviction has not been rendered does not make the action any less criminal.
MS is a multi-national corp. and have to abide by the rules, regulation and laws of the countries they wish to do business in. In the definition of "criminal" at no point in that definition does it specify this carries special boundries, or limits for US companies.
But, I could be wrong.....