All you USA centric folks here is my favorite weblog from my country. By a member of our parliament.
Diary of a Debacle
The government here is in the process of confiscating the seabed and foreshore from the indigenous people of Aotearoa (although a citizen I am not indigenous) and they are having a committee investigate it. The blog is a record of what is happening politically at the committee.
Ok, to clarify, Epeeist was referring to ESR's statement, ESR was referring specifically to the actions of the communist chinese government. In the same paragraph ESR stated that the ideals of communism were supported by many in the linux community, but that those people did not support the actions of the chinese government. This entire conversation is ONLY in relation to the Chinese government which calls itself a communist government. ESR made no statements about communism in general, only that of the chinese government in specific. Epeeist apparently feels that ESR's view of the communist chinese goverment is 'naive'. By following this statement to its logical conclusion I would say that Epeeist must believe that the communist chinese government does not commit atrocities, is not oppressive, and should be widely associated with and endorsed by the linux community.
This is BS.
Kintanon's comments are naive.
Nobody is saying they approve mass murder.
Every super-power does it (AFAIK The US hasn't done mass murder on it's citizens, ignoring the Branch Davidians as debatable, since they almost wiped out the Native Americans). Oh yes They were not citizens.
But, the fact that your victims are your citizens or someone elses should not matter.
So: We should have nothing to do with the U$A because of: The millions of Vietnamese they massacred. The hundreds of thousands of Iraqis they massacred. The violations of sovereignty in Grenada and Panama. The dirty wars against Nicaragua (a democracy at the time!) Cuba, New Zealand (not well known but I live in Aotearoa, so I know about that). The American complicity in the invasion of and genocide in East Timor.
Ok. Lets boycott China (Tibet is as good an excuse as any) or Russia (Chechnya) or (insert world powers name here) but lets also boycott the U$A.
Kintanon, get off the grass! Once you start saying one state is so awful that you do not want to deal with it, it is just a matter of degree for *all* states.
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Who is "no-one"?
There is a lot of life in the arctic. I expect it likes living in sea water with out s thick film of decaying oil on top.
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All you USA centric folks here is my favorite weblog from my country. By a member of our parliament.
Diary of a Debacle
The government here is in the process of confiscating the seabed and foreshore from the indigenous people of Aotearoa (although a citizen I am not indigenous) and they are having a committee investigate it. The blog is a record of what is happening politically at the committee.
This is BS.
Kintanon's comments are naive.
Nobody is saying they approve mass murder.
Every super-power does it (AFAIK The US hasn't done mass murder on it's citizens, ignoring the Branch Davidians as debatable, since they almost wiped out the Native Americans). Oh yes They were not citizens.
But, the fact that your victims are your citizens or someone elses should not matter.
So:
We should have nothing to do with the U$A because of:
The millions of Vietnamese they massacred.
The hundreds of thousands of Iraqis they massacred.
The violations of sovereignty in Grenada and Panama.
The dirty wars against Nicaragua (a democracy at the time!) Cuba, New Zealand (not well known but I live in Aotearoa, so I know about that).
The American complicity in the invasion of and genocide in East Timor.
Ok. Lets boycott China (Tibet is as good an excuse as any) or Russia (Chechnya) or (insert world powers name here) but lets also boycott the U$A.
Kintanon, get off the grass! Once you start saying one state is so awful that you do not want to deal with it, it is just a matter of degree for *all* states.
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