The amount of other phones in the cell affects what are the most important characteristics of phone to optimize for. The issue in here is about the minimum power levels which mainly affect the radius of the cell. However as the amount of other phones have gone up the situation where there is an empty cell where the radius could be an important factor has gone to be not so important any more. Nowadays it is all about signal to noise ratio at higher power levels that matters in a busy cell and that is not what was studied in here. The issue about reduced radius of a cell has been fixed in network design by putting up more basestations which are needed in any case to support the increased amount of phones in cell.
So to summarize. Yes the phones are worse in this respect but this particular performance metric is not so important any more as it once was and phone manufacturers have allowed it let it go worse as nobody really cares about this one any more and other things are more important now.
The word telepathy has existed for hundreds of years so the word and its traditional definition have a point
whether it is useful form of communications to you or not
Telepathy requires some paranormal method of communication.
Something that is not possible within the laws of physics as we currently know them.
So building any apparatus however small and however close to brain, it is still not real telepathy.
Does putting a man-made cone on the nose of a horse make it a real unicorn?
Quite definately not.
And that does not depend on whether real unicorns exist or not.
Hope you are not offended if some stupid journalist decides that he is free to redefine the word "hacker"
if its original definition does not sound useful for him personally.
I cannot download 1.8 gigs at this moment so
I don't know whether this file includes the exact content that is in question here.
Even if it does not, then it seems that Asus is trying to do the right thing in here.
They have printed the GPL to manual shipped to the customers and have set up a download section.
The problem might be just a snafu that some component is not included.
Doesn't anybody know what is the response from Asus when pointed to them that something is missing?
Do they tell the complaining person to **** off or do they say
"Sorry, we didn't know XYZ was missing, we'll fix it right away."
The GPL does not require the sources to be put on any website at all.
All they require that the sources to be made available on request
If they respond to the request with "Well put the DVD on mail right away",
that would be perfectly fine and no GPL violation has happened.
So we really need to know what they say to a direct request to sources
before we can complain about them being in violation.
I think the placement of the main wing, the center of gravity and the wheels seem very odd
and I cannot see how the thing could fly.
In order to be aerodynamically stable, the center of gravity needs to be slightly in front of the main wing.
In this case there seems to be quite much heavy components behind the main wing.
The engine, rear wheels and their suspension, transmission and driveshafts to the rear weels
and a sturdy frame to link all these heavy pieces together.
I don't know how they can move the center of gravity far enought to the front in order to get this thing to fly.
And when they do, they are creating another problem at the very same time.
At the moment of takeoff the front of this plane needs to get up into the air and rear wheels stay on the ground
in order to to create the angle of attack necessary for the main wing to provide lift
However the rear wheels are so far behind of the center of gravity that
it takes enormous amount of lift to take the front wheels off the ground
and the frontmost wing looks far too small to be able to provide this huge lifting force
The whole thing just looks very unaerodynamical with so many things hanging out from the huge main canopy
which is totally blocking any clear airflow to the very small propellor.
Prototype at 2008 and deliveries at 2009! Oh give me a break.
There is not one word about FAA or DOT approval on the site.
I would like to see the prototype fly before I belive this concept has any potential at all as a plane.
And FAA and DOT approval is a must before anybody should plonk any money down.
Also think about their primary selling-point,
capable of using oxygen from air and not having to carry it,
is only an advantage over rocket-engines.
Jet engines already use oxygen from the air.
In civilian travel there is great need for fuel-efficiency.
If their biggest problem is excess heat,
it automatically means they are wasting huge amounts of fuel to create that heat.
Only military can afford this wasted fuel.
Also there is a huge problem in take-off and landing from ground.
Ramjet is not going to work in those cases.
So for civilian aircraft use they are going to need conventional jet engines for that purpose.
Guess how aerodynamically efficient these extra jet engines are going to be at 10 Mach?
Also another problem that does not exist in military use.
So 100% certainty the only application this is going to have is delivering bombs.
This is prime example of technology that has almost purely military applications.
However since that does not excite public positively, they are instead fooling the public talking about civilian use.
What might be possible some day is to deliver a bomb from Sydney to London in very short time.
Not human passangers.
The inherent heat problems are about 100 times easier to solve, if you imagine
the payload is 50kg of plutonium instead of 5000 kg of humans.
There is one more important point.
The tansmit signal of the mobile interferes other cells even
if the mobile is not trying to communicate with them.
The very short distance to the basestation in the plane
causes the mobile transmit at very low poer so that the
signal is too weak to cause interference on earth.
The situation is totally different without the basestation in the plane.
In this case the mobile would try to transmit at maximum power so that
the basestation on earth could hear it causing maximum interference
to other cells at earth.
The network transmits neighbour-cell lists to mobile.
Mobile makes measurements for all the neighbouring cells
and request a transfer to another cell if it is stronger.
The neighbour lists are separate for each operator.
If the mobile is connected to one operator, it receives the neighbour list for that operator cells only.
Even if there is other operator cells around,
the mobile does not try to connect to them unless it determines
it has completely lost contact to network and
tries to determine whether there exist other networks it could use.
The system in the planes works so that there is
completely separate operator network inside the plane and the neighbour-list for it is empty.
The one basestation in the plane can easily be made so strong that
the mobile never has a need try to search for other networks.
In this way the mobile never tries to contact the cell phone network on the surface of the earth.
It turned a spectacle only after Theo responded the way he did.
The correct response would have been
"Oops, you are right, there seems to be a problem. We'll sort it out".
With this response there wouldn't have been any spectacle
and everybody would have been fine afterwards.
Michael could have made first contact by email but
equally well what he did was within reason.
If Michael would have started be creating an thread on/.
that would have been out of line, but not this.
After all Marcus did copy code into his own project
stripping out the original copyright notice and distributed the result in violation of the copyright
Is this not the real beef in here?
>>> Nobody disputes that GPL code was committed to OpenBSD CVS.
Theo tried to dispute this many times by trying to ridicule Michaels point
by making strawmen about whitespaces and stuff.
It is just that Theo was not succesful when he tried to dispute this.
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The amount of other phones in the cell affects what are the most important characteristics of phone to optimize for. The issue in here is about the minimum power levels which mainly affect the radius of the cell. However as the amount of other phones have gone up the situation where there is an empty cell where the radius could be an important factor has gone to be not so important any more. Nowadays it is all about signal to noise ratio at higher power levels that matters in a busy cell and that is not what was studied in here. The issue about reduced radius of a cell has been fixed in network design by putting up more basestations which are needed in any case to support the increased amount of phones in cell. So to summarize. Yes the phones are worse in this respect but this particular performance metric is not so important any more as it once was and phone manufacturers have allowed it let it go worse as nobody really cares about this one any more and other things are more important now.
The word telepathy has existed for hundreds of years so the word and its traditional definition have a point
whether it is useful form of communications to you or not
Telepathy requires some paranormal method of communication.
Something that is not possible within the laws of physics as we currently know them.
So building any apparatus however small and however close to brain, it is still not real telepathy.
Does putting a man-made cone on the nose of a horse make it a real unicorn?
Quite definately not.
And that does not depend on whether real unicorns exist or not.
Hope you are not offended if some stupid journalist decides that he is free to redefine the word "hacker"
if its original definition does not sound useful for him personally.
The link seems not to be working.
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Eee%20PC%204G(701)
Is this working better?
I cannot download 1.8 gigs at this moment so
I don't know whether this file includes the exact content that is in question here.
Even if it does not, then it seems that Asus is trying to do the right thing in here.
They have printed the GPL to manual shipped to the customers and have set up a download section.
The problem might be just a snafu that some component is not included.
Doesn't anybody know what is the response from Asus when pointed to them that something is missing?
Do they tell the complaining person to **** off or do they say
"Sorry, we didn't know XYZ was missing, we'll fix it right away."
The GPL does not require the sources to be put on any website at all.
All they require that the sources to be made available on request
If they respond to the request with "Well put the DVD on mail right away",
that would be perfectly fine and no GPL violation has happened.
So we really need to know what they say to a direct request to sources
before we can complain about them being in violation.
This link seems to include the source code.
Sure it is a little hard to find from the website, but there it is.
http://www.asus.com/prog_content/middle_download.aspx?l1=24&l2=0&l3=0&l4=0&model=1907&modelmenu=4
Or is this not the relevant source?
I think the placement of the main wing, the center of gravity and the wheels seem very odd
and I cannot see how the thing could fly.
In order to be aerodynamically stable, the center of gravity needs to be slightly in front of the main wing.
In this case there seems to be quite much heavy components behind the main wing.
The engine, rear wheels and their suspension, transmission and driveshafts to the rear weels
and a sturdy frame to link all these heavy pieces together.
I don't know how they can move the center of gravity far enought to the front in order to get this thing to fly.
And when they do, they are creating another problem at the very same time.
At the moment of takeoff the front of this plane needs to get up into the air and rear wheels stay on the ground
in order to to create the angle of attack necessary for the main wing to provide lift
However the rear wheels are so far behind of the center of gravity that
it takes enormous amount of lift to take the front wheels off the ground
and the frontmost wing looks far too small to be able to provide this huge lifting force
The whole thing just looks very unaerodynamical with so many things hanging out from the huge main canopy
which is totally blocking any clear airflow to the very small propellor.
Prototype at 2008 and deliveries at 2009! Oh give me a break.
There is not one word about FAA or DOT approval on the site.
I would like to see the prototype fly before I belive this concept has any potential at all as a plane.
And FAA and DOT approval is a must before anybody should plonk any money down.
I have seen nobody, even Con, to actually claim that
his scheduler was significantly better for games than the Ingos new scheduler currently is.
If somebody has numbers to prove that there is significant difference,
I am sure the situation could be revisited.
Even the Con's famous manifesto did not actually claim that the Ingo's new scheduler is not good.
He was just unhappy about how situation evolved.
Right now we need HARD FACTS about the schedulers and not flamewars.
Also think about their primary selling-point,
capable of using oxygen from air and not having to carry it,
is only an advantage over rocket-engines.
Jet engines already use oxygen from the air.
In civilian travel there is great need for fuel-efficiency.
If their biggest problem is excess heat,
it automatically means they are wasting huge amounts of fuel to create that heat.
Only military can afford this wasted fuel.
Also there is a huge problem in take-off and landing from ground.
Ramjet is not going to work in those cases.
So for civilian aircraft use they are going to need conventional jet engines for that purpose.
Guess how aerodynamically efficient these extra jet engines are going to be at 10 Mach?
Also another problem that does not exist in military use.
So 100% certainty the only application this is going to have is delivering bombs.
This is prime example of technology that has almost purely military applications.
However since that does not excite public positively, they are instead fooling the public talking about civilian use.
What might be possible some day is to deliver a bomb from Sydney to London in very short time. Not human passangers.
The inherent heat problems are about 100 times easier to solve, if you imagine
the payload is 50kg of plutonium instead of 5000 kg of humans.
There is one more important point. The tansmit signal of the mobile interferes other cells even if the mobile is not trying to communicate with them. The very short distance to the basestation in the plane causes the mobile transmit at very low poer so that the signal is too weak to cause interference on earth. The situation is totally different without the basestation in the plane. In this case the mobile would try to transmit at maximum power so that the basestation on earth could hear it causing maximum interference to other cells at earth.
The network transmits neighbour-cell lists to mobile. Mobile makes measurements for all the neighbouring cells and request a transfer to another cell if it is stronger. The neighbour lists are separate for each operator. If the mobile is connected to one operator, it receives the neighbour list for that operator cells only. Even if there is other operator cells around, the mobile does not try to connect to them unless it determines it has completely lost contact to network and tries to determine whether there exist other networks it could use. The system in the planes works so that there is completely separate operator network inside the plane and the neighbour-list for it is empty. The one basestation in the plane can easily be made so strong that the mobile never has a need try to search for other networks. In this way the mobile never tries to contact the cell phone network on the surface of the earth.
It turned a spectacle only after Theo responded the way he did. The correct response would have been "Oops, you are right, there seems to be a problem. We'll sort it out". With this response there wouldn't have been any spectacle and everybody would have been fine afterwards. Michael could have made first contact by email but equally well what he did was within reason. If Michael would have started be creating an thread on /.
that would have been out of line, but not this.
After all Marcus did copy code into his own project
stripping out the original copyright notice and distributed the result in violation of the copyright
Is this not the real beef in here?
>>> Nobody disputes that GPL code was committed to OpenBSD CVS.
Theo tried to dispute this many times by trying to ridicule Michaels point
by making strawmen about whitespaces and stuff.
It is just that Theo was not succesful when he tried to dispute this.