"1) This would be a new memory technology."
Okay well get back to me when you finish with that little detail. First off, being a smartass in response to a cogent point doesn't make me listen to you. It makes you look like you care more about appearing smart than being smart.
Secondly, in response to the above mentioned point, you say that recent developments have made you think that's where things are headed- could you elaborate?
To be honest, after reading TFA, I thought that the response here would be mostly positive. These changes show that the w3c is committed to providing a standard that matches up with how the web is really used anymore, especially the new apis. While obviously writing sites to take advantage of them will have to wait for compliant browsers, it is pretty encouraging to me that they use the presence of implementations, rather than the finishing of the document, as the standard for completion. Personally, I look forward to the new way of handling server-side events, and the ability to ping uri's, which seems to promise a lot of power if sufficiently flexible.
I have to admit- while I hate Java with a burning passion, you're right on the mark here. Java's proper place in the scheme of things is as the language for developing systems where you don't trust anybody- not end users, not hardware, and not programmers. Big iron is exactly what the doctor ordered, and while I still think that languages like C and Python (C for low-level, Python for high-level) are probably better for actual programming classes, I think that Java should be used in all software engineering coursework for exactly this reason.
If a technology is going to be designed to deliberately suck for the consumer, it might as well suck as hard as it possibly can. Just go closed source.
Maintain any kernel you want; that's your option. But if you have no desire to participate in the development process, then I'm just not going to take your point of view on how it should work very seriously. Demonstrate that you have an interest in fixing problems, then start telling others how they should do it- not the other way around.
You'll forgive me if I find the idea that fixing mistakes inevitably leads to mistakes quite hard to swallow. If it bothers you, fix it; if you're resigned to accepting it as it is, then don't complain- but you're foregoing the biggest benefit of open source.
Alright, that's just BS. If you seriously think that it is impossible to patch the kernel to deal with bugs, then you just don't know what the hell you're talking about.
My point is that well-engineered code can come from multiple sources as easily as one. The existence of such quirks (I admit I hadn't dealt with that, and that it is annoying- perhaps you could work up a patch for it?) in Linux (or BSD) does not prove either of our points.
I don't think we know enough about our own brains to claim that they operate via matrices of discrete values. I would guess that its fuzzy logic and TLDs that rule the roost up there, and while the latter may be black box it is a large leap from 'what the hell is he doing' to 'ZOMG HES GOT A CHAINSAW!!!1!!1'. Also, just to be annoying and pedantic, technically even ANNs are programmed.
Unless something's changed pretty drastically, the IBM voice projects were dead a couple of years ago. I went up to the office where ViaVoice was handled and they wouldn't even let me buy a copy of it for linux.
Linux is just a kernel with a bunch of separately developed utilities strung together Welcome to open source. If you don't like having code from a lot of different places put together to give you the maximum possible feature set, my advice would be to just turn around now, because *no* open source project, BSD included, can provide all the functionality you are going to need by itself. To put it another way, used X lately? Then cut the crap about only using the best engineered, in-house code.
This is supposed to be a bad thing, I take it? As I see it, the alternative for the software house would have been to just release their code. Open source, or pay up and fund future open source development. Seems like a pretty big win-win for the community to me.
If BSD is better engineered than Linux because it comes from a single consistent source, I guess Windows is better than either because they don't risk bad code leaking in from the outside. BS- use the code you want to use, and don't whine when the systems you have taken responsibility for fail.
the answer will always be 'depends'. It depends on personal preference- i prefer ubuntu for ease of use and gentoo for more stripped-down installations, although many would disagree with me. if you are listening to music, any of them will do, while if you are producing music you might want to go with something like musix or another distro specialized for high quality audio. games are going to be a problem in linux- they always are- but many of them work under Wine, a windows compatibility layer which I use to run portal and WoW. That will be pretty much distro agnostic as well, although i prefer ubuntu for exactly the reason you mentioned. others might say mint, a ubuntu-based distro that adds some polish and nice artwork, while still others might recommend pclinuxos or suse. serious bible study is easily done on any distro, but perhaps most easily on those with the best languages support- ubuntu is again high on this list, as are specialist distros like ehad, which is good for Hebrew Bible study due to especially strong language support. bottom line: cd-r's cost about 10 cents a piece, try em until you find one you like
Its the installing, not the using. It can be as easy to use as any other distro once installed, but it is- depending on your perspective- either a pain in the ass or a great learning tool to install. Pretty much like LFS, which I also think is a great learning tool. Bottom line is, I can really only learn this sort of thing by doing, and it was very helpful to me. Your mileage may vary.
Absolutely. The highly technical nature of Gentoo appealed to me right from the start, and so it was the first Linux system I played with. Just getting it running was several days of ignorance and fdisk, but by the end I knew quite a bit about the command line and Linux internals. Fast forwarding to today, I would say that it is a rare day that goes by in which I do not use something I learned in that first gentoo experience.
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Okay well get back to me when you finish with that little detail. First off, being a smartass in response to a cogent point doesn't make me listen to you. It makes you look like you care more about appearing smart than being smart. Secondly, in response to the above mentioned point, you say that recent developments have made you think that's where things are headed- could you elaborate?
Intercourse is the weapon of the bourgeoisie. Kulak.
To be honest, after reading TFA, I thought that the response here would be mostly positive. These changes show that the w3c is committed to providing a standard that matches up with how the web is really used anymore, especially the new apis. While obviously writing sites to take advantage of them will have to wait for compliant browsers, it is pretty encouraging to me that they use the presence of implementations, rather than the finishing of the document, as the standard for completion. Personally, I look forward to the new way of handling server-side events, and the ability to ping uri's, which seems to promise a lot of power if sufficiently flexible.
I have to admit- while I hate Java with a burning passion, you're right on the mark here. Java's proper place in the scheme of things is as the language for developing systems where you don't trust anybody- not end users, not hardware, and not programmers. Big iron is exactly what the doctor ordered, and while I still think that languages like C and Python (C for low-level, Python for high-level) are probably better for actual programming classes, I think that Java should be used in all software engineering coursework for exactly this reason.
If a technology is going to be designed to deliberately suck for the consumer, it might as well suck as hard as it possibly can. Just go closed source.
Maintain any kernel you want; that's your option. But if you have no desire to participate in the development process, then I'm just not going to take your point of view on how it should work very seriously. Demonstrate that you have an interest in fixing problems, then start telling others how they should do it- not the other way around.
You'll forgive me if I find the idea that fixing mistakes inevitably leads to mistakes quite hard to swallow. If it bothers you, fix it; if you're resigned to accepting it as it is, then don't complain- but you're foregoing the biggest benefit of open source.
Alright, that's just BS. If you seriously think that it is impossible to patch the kernel to deal with bugs, then you just don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Just saying that you can run Qt apps on Gnome, too.
My point is that well-engineered code can come from multiple sources as easily as one. The existence of such quirks (I admit I hadn't dealt with that, and that it is annoying- perhaps you could work up a patch for it?) in Linux (or BSD) does not prove either of our points.
I don't think we know enough about our own brains to claim that they operate via matrices of discrete values. I would guess that its fuzzy logic and TLDs that rule the roost up there, and while the latter may be black box it is a large leap from 'what the hell is he doing' to 'ZOMG HES GOT A CHAINSAW!!!1!!1'. Also, just to be annoying and pedantic, technically even ANNs are programmed.
Unless something's changed pretty drastically, the IBM voice projects were dead a couple of years ago. I went up to the office where ViaVoice was handled and they wouldn't even let me buy a copy of it for linux.
Qt != KDE.
This is supposed to be a bad thing, I take it? As I see it, the alternative for the software house would have been to just release their code. Open source, or pay up and fund future open source development. Seems like a pretty big win-win for the community to me.
If BSD is better engineered than Linux because it comes from a single consistent source, I guess Windows is better than either because they don't risk bad code leaking in from the outside. BS- use the code you want to use, and don't whine when the systems you have taken responsibility for fail.
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the answer will always be 'depends'. It depends on personal preference- i prefer ubuntu for ease of use and gentoo for more stripped-down installations, although many would disagree with me. if you are listening to music, any of them will do, while if you are producing music you might want to go with something like musix or another distro specialized for high quality audio. games are going to be a problem in linux- they always are- but many of them work under Wine, a windows compatibility layer which I use to run portal and WoW. That will be pretty much distro agnostic as well, although i prefer ubuntu for exactly the reason you mentioned. others might say mint, a ubuntu-based distro that adds some polish and nice artwork, while still others might recommend pclinuxos or suse. serious bible study is easily done on any distro, but perhaps most easily on those with the best languages support- ubuntu is again high on this list, as are specialist distros like ehad, which is good for Hebrew Bible study due to especially strong language support. bottom line: cd-r's cost about 10 cents a piece, try em until you find one you like
it was a joke guys. lighten up.
we should all just be happy that somebody, somewhere, got something working on slackware
Its the installing, not the using. It can be as easy to use as any other distro once installed, but it is- depending on your perspective- either a pain in the ass or a great learning tool to install. Pretty much like LFS, which I also think is a great learning tool. Bottom line is, I can really only learn this sort of thing by doing, and it was very helpful to me. Your mileage may vary.
Absolutely. The highly technical nature of Gentoo appealed to me right from the start, and so it was the first Linux system I played with. Just getting it running was several days of ignorance and fdisk, but by the end I knew quite a bit about the command line and Linux internals. Fast forwarding to today, I would say that it is a rare day that goes by in which I do not use something I learned in that first gentoo experience.
Anybody who is remotely worried about security is probably not going to download a tool that reports your security status to another organization.
Anybody more statistically inclined than I able to put together a guesstimate on the likelihood of this happening in the normal course of events?
I have to wonder whether this announcement and the glowing pigs announcement are just coincidental...