Do you know anything about his accomplishments, or are you just parroting back what the conservative media tells you to say? What has he accomplished other than bagging a hot wife while resembling a retarded elf?
Bush intentionally lied the country into a war he intended to launch from before his 'election'. First, the intelligence reports of not just our government, but others as well, stated that Saddam had WMD.
Second, Bush did win the election. Quit whining like a little baby and playing the "I'm taking my ball and going home" bullshit.
By your logic, business exists purely to make a profit. Should be:
By your logic, business exists purely to make a profit, regardless of the consequences to human life.
The issue is the total disregard for safety procedures, and the refusal to help those harmed by the chemicals the plant released under Union Carbide policy.
Why would they release the chemicals? Just for the fun of killing people? You make absolutely no sense at all.
By your logic, business exists purely to make a profit. Well, consider this Che. They paid money to make that facility. They paid money to produce that chemical. What reason do they have to give it away for free in the form of a poison gas cloud hovering over a third-world city?
You OBVIOUSLY did not read it, and are just trolling.
OBVIOUSLY I did, since I quoted it.
Obviously YOU didn't read the part about the article's neutrality being disputed.
Ask the "people" in India if they wanted the Union Carbide Disaster.
Oh bullshit. Some brain-dead maintenance worker screws up a procedure, and somehow that's the company's fault? Oh, it is, according to the article, because they hired people unable to maintain this facility they invested millions of dollars in. That makes sense. Spend wads of cash to build something, and then don't hire people capable of keeping it in working order.
Maybe the "people" of India should go talk to their government, which according to the cited article, owned 49% of the facility.
But, of course, to you right-wing pukes, it's the government, it's a judge, and so it's good that this decision was made to let some dumbass agency back onto the web. Dude, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Most right-wing types abhor judicial legislation and most government function in general.
Methinks you've drank too much of the anti-GW Kool-Ade.
Have you thought about the zero-emission, free-as-in-beer, free-as-in-speech, good ol' fashioned solution: walk the damn five blocks? No. That would take away time from reading slashdot.
Let me rephrase - I work a low-paying twelve-hour overnight shift in a factory.
I've thought of a bicycle... but that would be worse than walking. I hear some guy has a pedal-start moped for sale, maybe I can look into that (har har)
Engine swaps used to be more common in this country. What happened? Emissions laws.
Not only that, but a number of other factors as well.
People used to have a lot of free time, and mechanics was a big hobby. Also, money was scarce and if something broke you had to fix it. In today's world of "disposable" income, however, it's just easier to buy a new car.
I have a 1986 K6 Chevy Blazer that I had a friend put a motor in. (I lack the equipment and knowledge to do it myself.) I'm sure anyone else would have sent it off to the scrap pile and pocketed $300. I prefer to keep my carburated, non-computerized, oversized gas hog running. It doesn't hurt that I live in a state (Iowa) with no vehicle inspections.
It may cost the proverbial arm and leg to fill the 40-gallon tank, but it beats buying a new vehicle. (FWIW, it's used for a five-block commute to work.)
I, as well as many others I'm sure, have submitted numerous news stories to/. about the flagrant bias toward BPL and the facts being covered up by the FCC. Oddly, none ever get posted. Mod me troll, I don't care; I think it's obvious what side of the issue the/. mods are on.
This is exactly why all communications lines must be seized as property of the public. We have public roads, public water, public electricity, and it's time we have public ownership of data lines.
And what, exactly, gives you the right to seize someone else's property? That's no different than seizing your neighbor's house because you don't like how they care for their yard.
While I am hopeful that the FCC does act, I have about 0 faith in Kevin Martin.
Kevin Martin was an aide to Bush/Cheney in the 2000 election, he worked the Florida recount, he was coat tailed in as an aide in the transition from Clinton, was appointed to an advisory position once Bush took office, his wife was given a job as one of Cheney's aides, and since late 2007 he has been under investigation by Congress for abuse of power, and working to reduce the effective power of the FCC.
So what you're saying is that you don't trust the guy because he works with a political team you apparently don't agree with, and the opposing party is investigating him because they don't like him either.
As I recall there was a lot of opposition to BPL because it interferes with the HAM radio spectrum.
Acutally, it interferes with the entire radio spectrum. When the plan was first announced, the military was one of the most vocal opponents of the plan. I don't know if they still are or not, as I haven't heard much about their opinion lately.
The ARRL, a sorta-NRA of ham radio, has recently filed a case with a federal court over BPL. The gripe is that the FCC relaxed their rules regarding Part 15 emissions (radiations from unlicensed transmitters) to allow BPL to operate.
HAM radio is very noisy and unreliable, since it depends on the ionosphere for propagation. HAM radio is also used over extremely small bits of bandwidth, barely enough for one-way, intelligible speech.
Have you even used a ham radio? I suppose if you're expecting a high-def audio experience, a 2.2kHz bandwidth voice signal may seem "barely intelligible." That's only for SSB, however. FM has 5kHz audio bandwidth, AM has 10kHz bandwidth. All are comperable to what you'd get on a landline telephone. (Unless you count PSK-31 with it's miniscule 31Hz bandwidth... but that's another thing altogether.)
The digital modes created and used by hams are very reliable and able to get through the worst conditions. Digital modes such as PSK-31, PSK-63, Hellschrieber, Olivia, and other "soundcard" modes are able to be decoded even when the recieving station can't hear the signal through the white noise.
Propagation doesn't solely rely upon the ionosphere. Depending on what freqencies you are using, propagation can be groundwave ("hugging" the surface of the earth, as AM broadcast does), skywave (bouncing off the ionospheric), tropospheric (propagated via atmospheric temperature inversions), moonbounce (bounced off the moon), or even relayed via satellites.
By the way... what's with everyone capitalizing ham? It's not an acronym.
Uh, stopping a legal recount? Setting scan-tron type machines in Democratic districts of Florida to silently accept and ignore mismarked ballots, and setting the ones in Republican districts to reject for resubmission? Having a relative prematurely call the election while voting is still occurring? These are all illegal actions.
If the first recount had been stopped, I'd side with you. However, when we're recounting the same votes from the same district over and over again, it's clear things need to be put to an end. I also ask you this: Why was Gore only demanding recounts in heavily-Democratic precincts, hrm? Why didn't he just ask for a statewide recount? Who, exactly, was trying to steal the election?
As for having a relative call an election, (which he didn't, the Florida Secretary of State along with the Florida Supreme Court did) what was Jeb supposed to do, step down as governor? How exactly was voting still occuring, anyway? The election wasn't called until nearly a month after election day. What were you waiting for, more people to rise from the dead and vote Democrat?
Even the legitimately counted votes which support your position were based on lies - illegal lies.
You prove my point again. "People who vote Republican are ignorant dupes. Otherwise, they'd realize that their GOP overlords are lying to them and they'd vote Democrat."
Translation: "I want to despoil the environment, and I don't give a fuck about anyone but myself."
No, the correct translation would be, "I don't like overly complicated cars, especially when they're forced upon me by legislation."
I'm all for fuel economy. I'm all for having cars which consume less of a commodity I have to purchase, provided they do so in a simple manner. If I decide to purchase one, I'd like it to be a choice and not a requirement.
So, I don't have a lot of sympathy for your fuck-you attitude, sorry. We all live on this planet. It's not really clear that cars for all is actually sustainable no matter what energy source we use.
Thanks for dropping an f-bomb - way to contribute to the debate.
Let me "translate" your words as you did mine. "We share the world. The only people who know how to effectively manage it are Democrats."
If people want to have cars, let them. You have no right to tell others how to live their lives.
You have just proven that you are an idiot, because I am anti-hybrid, at least for the most part - I think there is a practical use for plug-in SERIES hybrids. I am primarily in favor of lightweight vehicles with turbo diesels, and full-electrics. Hybrids have a higher energy cost over their lifetime than ordinary cars because of the batteries. That could be changed, of course.
Ah, now we resort to name calling. (By the way - when trying to disprove my claim that you think everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, you probably shouldn't call me an idiot.)
I used the term "hybrid" to generalize all "non-traditional" vehicles. Forgive my horrendous stupidity. I'll be sure to not make such an egregious error in the future.
There's other options in public transportation than buses, but you knew that. You just wanted to look clever. Try again.
No, I just said I didn't want to ride a bus.
If commuter rail were still in use in America, I'd be all for it. As for Taxis... well, I just assumed you wouldn't want to replace our usage of automobiles with for-hire usage of automobiles. Blame it on my Republican stupidity. (Did I cover all the various public transport options that time? Would you like me to comment on hovercraft and cruise ships?)
The simple fact is that if we chose we could build cars with modern technology which were both cleaner and more reliabl
I hope you realize that we didn't actually vote in Bush, ever. Period, end of story. Both elections were stolen. Thanks.
Gore and Kerry lost. Get over it. Typical Democrat whining - don't take fault for your shortcomings (i.e., poor choices in presidential candidates), but rather scream "UNFAIR!" and try to change the system to your advantage.
I'm not saying Bush is a great guy (I'm not fond of him at all), but he won. Get used to it. Quit making up excuses, and get over your egotistical Democrat mindset of "if we don't win, the other side cheated."
The people aren't even being allowed to know what they want. Freed of mandates (let's not forget Bush's tax cut of up to $100,000 for buying a SUV... if you're a qualifying business owner) the auto company is free to market whatever they like. People pretty much buy what they're sold, it's sad but true.
The whole reason the American auto industry is failing is because they CAN'T market what they want. They're forced to manufacture anemic go-karts with expensive technology out the tailpipe that total out in the most minor of accidents. Americans don't want cars like that, but environmentalists keep cramming them down our throats.
I know exactly what kind of car I want. Something simple, easy to work on, and devoid of computer control. I can't get that because of GOVERNMENT IMPOSED ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS enacted by DEMOCRATS that REQUIRE extremely complex (compared to prior technology) design and technology.
More Democrat egotism. "The people would agree with us and buy hybrids if only those damned Republicans and big businesses didn't get in their way! It's not at all possible that they don't want them. We know they do, it's what we want!"
So if you want to blame us for something, blame us for being placid and/or stupid. But honestly, Bush wasn't our fault (not Jr. anyway) and we want to buy vehicles which are more environmentally conscious. Some of us would even like to give them up entirely in favor of golf carts and public transportation, but I admit we're in the minority.
We, we, we. You guys just have your finger on the pulse of everything, don't you? Nobody disagrees with you, nobody has differing opinions.
I wouldn't give up my car for a golf cart. I wouldn't take a bus somewhere if you held a gun to my head. (Sit next to a bum soaked in urine while I wonder what that sticky stuff on the seat is? No thanks!) I don't want to fly down the interstate in a souped-up Rascal.
Bush was our fault. He won because of two reasons. First, people didn't like Al Gore. Second, people really didn't like John Kerry. But, being a Democrat, you can't believe your choices in candidates were inferior. Therefore, Bush cheated.
Huh... kinda like gun control. It does nothing to stop the problem it claims to be solving, and only hurts the law-abiding users of the product.
Perhaps we need a 28th Amendment to the constitution stating "A well-entertained public, being necessary to the peacefulness of a free State, the right of the people to copy and save media shall not be infringed."
Then, of course, some organization would misinterpret the placement of a comma and say we have the right to watch TV at city hall.
Just play it safe. Smartest object of carbon, silicon, or YTBD chemical makeup for the job.
You discriminate against rocks, you granite-phobe.
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The general idea is that road authorities should be able bill people for their actual use of the roads, with the price depending on when and where they drive and the characteristics of their vehicle.
Oh goodie! So now they'll lower gasoline taxes, right?
Oh yes... and don't bore us with complaints that you already pay gasoline tax. What you *pay* in unimportant. What counts is the difference between what's needed for upkeep and congestion management and what's currently available.
Oh, nevermind.
I wish I were able to manage my budget the way the government does. Not enough money to cover my expenses? Just make my employer pay me more. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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Why would they release the chemicals? Just for the fun of killing people? You make absolutely no sense at all.
By your logic, business exists purely to make a profit. Well, consider this Che. They paid money to make that facility. They paid money to produce that chemical. What reason do they have to give it away for free in the form of a poison gas cloud hovering over a third-world city?
You OBVIOUSLY did not read it, and are just trolling.OBVIOUSLY I did, since I quoted it.
Obviously YOU didn't read the part about the article's neutrality being disputed.
Well troll on little troll.Am I trolling by pointing out your stupidity?
Oh bullshit. Some brain-dead maintenance worker screws up a procedure, and somehow that's the company's fault? Oh, it is, according to the article, because they hired people unable to maintain this facility they invested millions of dollars in. That makes sense. Spend wads of cash to build something, and then don't hire people capable of keeping it in working order.
Maybe the "people" of India should go talk to their government, which according to the cited article, owned 49% of the facility.
Oh look, there's even more dust: "To Serve Files To Beowulf Clusters"
Let me rephrase - I work a low-paying twelve-hour overnight shift in a factory.
I've thought of a bicycle... but that would be worse than walking. I hear some guy has a pedal-start moped for sale, maybe I can look into that (har har)
That got modded troll? Wtf? I guess sarcasm is lost on some people :-) (NOTE THE SMILEY FACE!!)
I work a twelve-hour night shift in a factory. I just want to get home. Screw the ozone layer.
Not only that, but a number of other factors as well.
People used to have a lot of free time, and mechanics was a big hobby. Also, money was scarce and if something broke you had to fix it. In today's world of "disposable" income, however, it's just easier to buy a new car.
I have a 1986 K6 Chevy Blazer that I had a friend put a motor in. (I lack the equipment and knowledge to do it myself.) I'm sure anyone else would have sent it off to the scrap pile and pocketed $300. I prefer to keep my carburated, non-computerized, oversized gas hog running. It doesn't hurt that I live in a state (Iowa) with no vehicle inspections.
It may cost the proverbial arm and leg to fill the 40-gallon tank, but it beats buying a new vehicle. (FWIW, it's used for a five-block commute to work.)
(nitpick)
Actually, since the referenced line is to the effect of, "'Tis a fine barn, English, but 'tis no pool." the line should read:
"'Tis a fine barn, English, but 'tis no supercomputer."
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I, as well as many others I'm sure, have submitted numerous news stories to /. about the flagrant bias toward BPL and the facts being covered up by the FCC. Oddly, none ever get posted. Mod me troll, I don't care; I think it's obvious what side of the issue the /. mods are on.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
And what, exactly, gives you the right to seize someone else's property? That's no different than seizing your neighbor's house because you don't like how they care for their yard.
Kevin Martin was an aide to Bush/Cheney in the 2000 election, he worked the Florida recount, he was coat tailed in as an aide in the transition from Clinton, was appointed to an advisory position once Bush took office, his wife was given a job as one of Cheney's aides, and since late 2007 he has been under investigation by Congress for abuse of power, and working to reduce the effective power of the FCC.
So what you're saying is that you don't trust the guy because he works with a political team you apparently don't agree with, and the opposing party is investigating him because they don't like him either.
Acutally, it interferes with the entire radio spectrum. When the plan was first announced, the military was one of the most vocal opponents of the plan. I don't know if they still are or not, as I haven't heard much about their opinion lately.
The ARRL, a sorta-NRA of ham radio, has recently filed a case with a federal court over BPL. The gripe is that the FCC relaxed their rules regarding Part 15 emissions (radiations from unlicensed transmitters) to allow BPL to operate.
Here's a page at the ARRL about BPL: http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/
Here's a couple YouTube videos demonstrating the type of RF garbage these things emit all over the RF spectrum:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HDSQJ8zOnhQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pdcY0Eetvsw
Have you even used a ham radio? I suppose if you're expecting a high-def audio experience, a 2.2kHz bandwidth voice signal may seem "barely intelligible." That's only for SSB, however. FM has 5kHz audio bandwidth, AM has 10kHz bandwidth. All are comperable to what you'd get on a landline telephone. (Unless you count PSK-31 with it's miniscule 31Hz bandwidth... but that's another thing altogether.)
The digital modes created and used by hams are very reliable and able to get through the worst conditions. Digital modes such as PSK-31, PSK-63, Hellschrieber, Olivia, and other "soundcard" modes are able to be decoded even when the recieving station can't hear the signal through the white noise.
Propagation doesn't solely rely upon the ionosphere. Depending on what freqencies you are using, propagation can be groundwave ("hugging" the surface of the earth, as AM broadcast does), skywave (bouncing off the ionospheric), tropospheric (propagated via atmospheric temperature inversions), moonbounce (bounced off the moon), or even relayed via satellites.
By the way... what's with everyone capitalizing ham? It's not an acronym.
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If the first recount had been stopped, I'd side with you. However, when we're recounting the same votes from the same district over and over again, it's clear things need to be put to an end. I also ask you this: Why was Gore only demanding recounts in heavily-Democratic precincts, hrm? Why didn't he just ask for a statewide recount? Who, exactly, was trying to steal the election?
As for having a relative call an election, (which he didn't, the Florida Secretary of State along with the Florida Supreme Court did) what was Jeb supposed to do, step down as governor? How exactly was voting still occuring, anyway? The election wasn't called until nearly a month after election day. What were you waiting for, more people to rise from the dead and vote Democrat?
You prove my point again. "People who vote Republican are ignorant dupes. Otherwise, they'd realize that their GOP overlords are lying to them and they'd vote Democrat."
No, the correct translation would be, "I don't like overly complicated cars, especially when they're forced upon me by legislation."
I'm all for fuel economy. I'm all for having cars which consume less of a commodity I have to purchase, provided they do so in a simple manner. If I decide to purchase one, I'd like it to be a choice and not a requirement.
Thanks for dropping an f-bomb - way to contribute to the debate.
Let me "translate" your words as you did mine. "We share the world. The only people who know how to effectively manage it are Democrats."
If people want to have cars, let them. You have no right to tell others how to live their lives.
Ah, now we resort to name calling. (By the way - when trying to disprove my claim that you think everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, you probably shouldn't call me an idiot.)
I used the term "hybrid" to generalize all "non-traditional" vehicles. Forgive my horrendous stupidity. I'll be sure to not make such an egregious error in the future.
No, I just said I didn't want to ride a bus.
If commuter rail were still in use in America, I'd be all for it. As for Taxis... well, I just assumed you wouldn't want to replace our usage of automobiles with for-hire usage of automobiles. Blame it on my Republican stupidity. (Did I cover all the various public transport options that time? Would you like me to comment on hovercraft and cruise ships?)
Gore and Kerry lost. Get over it. Typical Democrat whining - don't take fault for your shortcomings (i.e., poor choices in presidential candidates), but rather scream "UNFAIR!" and try to change the system to your advantage.
I'm not saying Bush is a great guy (I'm not fond of him at all), but he won. Get used to it. Quit making up excuses, and get over your egotistical Democrat mindset of "if we don't win, the other side cheated."
The whole reason the American auto industry is failing is because they CAN'T market what they want. They're forced to manufacture anemic go-karts with expensive technology out the tailpipe that total out in the most minor of accidents. Americans don't want cars like that, but environmentalists keep cramming them down our throats.
I know exactly what kind of car I want. Something simple, easy to work on, and devoid of computer control. I can't get that because of GOVERNMENT IMPOSED ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS enacted by DEMOCRATS that REQUIRE extremely complex (compared to prior technology) design and technology.
More Democrat egotism. "The people would agree with us and buy hybrids if only those damned Republicans and big businesses didn't get in their way! It's not at all possible that they don't want them. We know they do, it's what we want!"
We, we, we. You guys just have your finger on the pulse of everything, don't you? Nobody disagrees with you, nobody has differing opinions.
I wouldn't give up my car for a golf cart. I wouldn't take a bus somewhere if you held a gun to my head. (Sit next to a bum soaked in urine while I wonder what that sticky stuff on the seat is? No thanks!) I don't want to fly down the interstate in a souped-up Rascal.
Bush was our fault. He won because of two reasons. First, people didn't like Al Gore. Second, people really didn't like John Kerry. But, being a Democrat, you can't believe your choices in candidates were inferior. Therefore, Bush cheated.
Huh... kinda like gun control. It does nothing to stop the problem it claims to be solving, and only hurts the law-abiding users of the product.
Perhaps we need a 28th Amendment to the constitution stating "A well-entertained public, being necessary to the peacefulness of a free State, the right of the people to copy and save media shall not be infringed."
Then, of course, some organization would misinterpret the placement of a comma and say we have the right to watch TV at city hall.
Just play it safe. Smartest object of carbon, silicon, or YTBD chemical makeup for the job.
You discriminate against rocks, you granite-phobe.
Oh goodie! So now they'll lower gasoline taxes, right?
Oh, nevermind.
I wish I were able to manage my budget the way the government does. Not enough money to cover my expenses? Just make my employer pay me more. GOD BLESS AMERICA!