That's called "public oversight" and with an "unbroken chain of custody", there will never be a failure. Break one of the TWO and FAIL but the same thing goes for electronic vote tabulation devices, break say chain of custody because humans can't see the signal representing the vote and you break the chain of custody.
CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS THE PROBLEM
ALL HARDWARE FAILS THIS DILEMMA SOFTS RUNS ON THE HARDWARE
It's not a great post, there's holes through it. Specifically a "Chain of Custody" dilemma with the electronic vote tabulation devices being used.
I don't wish such a project luck at all what so ever. All electronic vote tabulation devices must be outlawed.
To be fair, whether or not interpreted code executes correctly or not doesn't matter when YOU create the chips, starting at the doping level, and nobody but you has looked at any extra logic or specially crafted logic inside such chips.
To be fair, the other part of this attack is corporate media controlling all of public spectrum (another pandora's box of shit for another rainy slashdot day)
To be fair would be to outlaw all electronic vote tabulation devices nationally.
To be fair would be paper ballots, transparently marked, with public controlled oversight, with sanity check safeguards (RE: Cops trained in chain of custody who work FOR the public against officials, the public and themselves as nobody can be trusted.)
And yeah, it's human labor. So is Jury Duty! Coincidence?
How do you propose to verify that the source code has not been altered before or during the compilation process?
That's close, but not the entire problem. The entire problem is all these electronic signals (+5v High) (+3v Low) are running on chips which you never watched the doping process for. These signals furthermore are invisible to the human visibility spectrum.
What are we going to have poll watchers walk in with a spectrum analyzer, freq counter, logic analyzer, O scope, and simpson meters? I don't fucking think so.
Even if they did, they still can't know what the chips are actually doing.
Chips also burn out. (do they burn out or purposely burn up? what countermeasure is in place? none!)
The United States needs to use a paper ballot, hand counted, with an unbroken human and public chain of custody, and no electronic poll books either. (they've already been freaking exploited!)
Mail in should be discouraged as this is a "Broken Chain of Custody"
You might notice I use that phrase a lot. It's because no matter what method of voting, it is the problem.
With electronics the endgame is you can win more votes at once than you ever possibly could with paper and you can do it fast (3e8!)
That's the threat. If there's a election terrorist, it's whoever allowed this shit in the first place.
The public needs COPS working for them, no local law enforcement, specifically trained COPS who understand "chain of custody" and who won't allow either the public, themselves, or officials break the chain of custody!!!
It also doesn't break the chain of custody with invisible electronic signals representing votes.
With paper ballots to break the chain of custody, officials have to pull some shit. Like saying DHS and the FBI have a terrorist attack, and the vault with the ballots will have to be left alone.
Or using local law enforcement to arrest poll watchers.
With electronic voting nearly every part of the system can be exploited. Starting with HARDWARE.
These two people are as far from election terrorists as you can get.
The one thing you purposely leave out of this discussion is the broken chain of custody which electronic signals representing votes create.
Your software runs on hardware, hardware which is not checked, because to check such hardware you would have to destroy it by reverse engineering it under an electron microscope.
If you on slashdot listen to this idiot AC, our country is going to keep screwing up down the same path. Officials KNOW electronic voting is rigged, that's why in conjunction with corporate media they can never be held accountable.
The PROCESS doesn't matter if the HARDWARE has been specially crafted at the doping level. How many of you in the OSV are checking the hardware with an electron microscope? None. I rest my case, Open Source Electronic Voting will Never fix the problem with a broken chain of custody.
Broken Chain of Custody IS the problem.
Although, what will likely happen.. is the OSV will somehow manage to snow over officials and Debra Bowen. You'll get open source to replace closed source, but the hardware will still be a problem and it will take us another 20 years to prove it and outlaw it nationally like all the rest of these electronic vote tabulation devices.
I find it very depressing that the majority of slashdot folks love the idea of open source voting but fail to waste 2 neurons on hardware security. Just cause it says a part number on a chip, doesn't mean that chip is what it says it is.
It's almost a waste of my time continuing to fight with you, but in the rare chance at least one of you smart programmers wakes up to the fact that ALL software runs on hardware, and the hardware isn't being checked at all. Frankly it can't be without destroying it under an electron microscope.
So you go ahead and push open source as your agenda, instead of outlawing these crappy broken unvalidatable insecure electronic vote tabulation devices, and enjoy the fact you can't hold your officials accountable, because you can't count your own fucking vote..
no pro tools 8 when ie8 is slipstreamed or installed - $200 no lexicon - $1500 no hp 3570c - $40
$1740 of hardware to be tossed out? For what? $300 + 6 months of installing, testing, debugging, and serial number entering fun?! Only to find various forms of box canyons, no u-turns, dead-ends and incompatibilities? To spend months tracking down conflicts and debugging the system so there are no errors in the freaking CRAPPY ASS event viewer? To spend months custom tweaking conflicting dll's, programs, and re-compiling custom code that might not work?
(And yeah if your wondering I use Linux, and FBSD, but not for Video/Audio workstations)
What Microsoft needs to do is cut it out with the once a month patch nonsense. Patch when the patch is available. DAILY. The second thing is they need to provide a way to remove ie8 and roll it back to ie7 on any box. Even if it was slipstreamed and has no god damned c:\windows\ie8\spuninstall.exe file existing. (That ie8 breaks hell of shit besides pro tools, it breaks translation software also.)
If all you want to do is blog and buy shit off ebay I would push an ubuntu/debian on ya. If you want to produce video and audio, you want an (32bit) XP SP3 with NO ie8! And if that box has to face the web you want it hidden behind IPCop.
Still Microsoft is screwing up. I remember when they stopped updates on ftp. They really suck, if you break IE8 you will not be able to update. If you break IE8 you can not use system restore. (Side note: turn system restore off your data drives!)
I now have a pair of drives, I clone the OS back and forth. And another for data drive, I don't back up. I use Sun Virtual Box to create three ubuntu's which I use for 1. Blogs, dangerous web fun 2. eBay bidding, amazon shopping 3. Paypal/Banks
I am done with microsoft too, but in a different way. (I only wish I could figure out a way to download every potential driver for every known piece of hardware, so when they finally pull the plug, I will simply disconnect the XP workstation from internet access. (Why would you need access on a DAW/ Video worksta?) When you produce tv, you have to post times, and information about who's on the channel, you could technically just have two boxes, but when your not corporate media your limited by your financial ability, it's funny though cause I also found that security is ALSO limited by your financial ability.
As usual, I will lay low on the 14th and keep an ear up for problems before I patch.
"We need to realize what we have and take advantage of it, we are the media and if we (collectively) wanted to, we could harm any politician that takes the side of the RIAA."
Like uh, you mean the vice president Biden?
lemme see if I can remember about Biden and RIAA or BIDEN and DRM... Oh that's right, he's a piece of shit on it all, just like Holt is on electronic voting machines.
Fascism. Plain and Simple. But hey, it's only the small stations. I am just a web user... that's right keep justifying this fascist shit in your minds. When your finally living in a shanty town and the armed cops are telling you to move every 24 hours keep justifying this nanny state bullshit fascist crap.
Don't vote for a D or R ever again! (with the exception of Kucinich and Paul) And protest until all electronic voting machines are outlawed
The fucking United States has gone completely fascist. A couple more years and you won't even be able to find a small band in your own fucking hometown.
I helped develop a Streaming Radio back when it was an early thing. I left after completing my part of the code. I watched them go through hell of shit with all this nonsense over the years. It would really be easier to just do a show on public access. From a tech point, there isn't much to streaming shit. We had edit files on home boxes then transfer (stream) them to a remote FBSD box that had hella bandwidth. A little interfacing to read back what the fuck was playing and add a forum, some graphics boom your up.
Then I hear some shit about they want a detailed list of what was played. heh. Then more, then more then more. Obviously this game has reached it's last stages of fascism for the USA.
It could be argued this would go against the 1st amendment. Especially when we are talking about streaming unsigned bands only. But our congress is owned by corporations. ergo fascism.
What's next?
I predict.
Streaming Video tax? Blog Tax? RSS feed tax? Soda tax? Thieving fucking bankster tax? More cigarette tax? Water tax? Air tax?
But, maybe just maybe the American people will turn off the fucking TV get off their ass and protest in the streets until the fuckwads are in jail and the constitution is restored.
Really there's not much left now. Our government is hiding it from you seeing the big picture.
But if you leave that TV on, you'll just the stupid fucking sheep who will vote for a D or an R yet again. That is if your stupid fucking vote even comes out of the electronic voting machine.
Because m 401k is now a 201k and we're pretty close to a bond market collapse. Not to mention the trillions taxpayers already dished out for the bankster gambling debts. Perhaps you can explain how your post on Slashdot has raised the temperature on the Sun, or changed the angle the Earth in relation to the Sun. Ahh, we get closer to the root of the NWO lies now.
This Cap and Trade comment brought to you by reality check.
Are you ready for the census 2010? Are you proud you legally bought your firearm and are on the registered database? What will you do when mandatory vaccinations come next (hint: swine flu pandemic level 6 by the WHO) and your on the list because of the census records and know to be armed because you registered your firearms? Extra credit for those who can tell us what happened last time the USA had mandatory vaccinations.
Clear is a domestic enemy. Just like the DHS and all this other fucking bullshit.
(One of these things doesn't go with the other. ) We can't even get electronic voting. We need committees elected by people.
Electronic vote tabulation devices do not allow for public oversight. If you don't have public oversight, you are basically counting votes in secret, which isn't good for a supposedly constitutional republic
Why worry about games when we have Other crackdowns...
Threats by the Chinese government, if they catch ya posting something they don't like.myspace-cn
Sweet, take the phrase "multi billion dollar vaccine industry", and change it to "multibillion dollar homeopathic" add the words "propaganda machine" and make the whole thing equal to doing nothing at all for a cold, all in one line.
Anarchy indeed.
We learned about Zicam by word of mouth. I can assure you that grandpa and grandma is not workin for the homeopathic industry. Neither are people at work, since... well... um, they're at work and I don't think they make zicam in the tool truck on a construction site.
Our family uses the disposable swabs. Both the allergy and the cold swabs, not the spray for several years now. Nobody has this problem. But it has shortened colds. And helped with allergies. (None of us use any nose sprays by any brand)
Before we all go off the deep end and get's yet another "alternative cure" (regardless if you agree or disagree it's a cure) banned in lieu of big pharmacist, expensive drugs, big hospital bills, questionable safety in our vaccinations, all while having no health care, and a government which has welfare for banksters, warfare and surveillance.
Ever think this might be purposely targeted so you'll have no cure to specially crafted bugs which accidentally escape super labs? I don't know that it is, or isn't and I ain't trying to be paranoid, I am just throwing the idea out there, cause I'm fucking sick and tired of the lies that come from my government, to the point where I don't trust anything they fucking say anymore. Which leaves me with validating facts on my own. The media has literally become a dangerous cult.
I don't know about you, but I am not willing to give up a product which frankly worked fine for my family several years now, in exchange for a Goebbels Media pushing a fucking "Prescription for America" when no opposing views including Single Payer were allowed in discussions.
The debate about if it's homeopathy or not, I don't care. It's a political narco profit motivated fascist argument. You go ahead and waste several million or billion on such nonsense and it's research, legal fights, and bureaucracy. Keep in mind they are already trying to fuck with the codex.
I am much more simple. I go by if the fucking thing works or not.
In OUR family's case zicam swabs (Cold and Allergy) works just fine, no loss of smell. We also followed the instructions carefully.
I can't speak to the spray.
We also use oil of oregano, and many other food supplements.
Of course all this is my opinion, and as it should be implied. Ask your friends and neighbors if they have problems. Not what they hear on the tv, you want to know first hand experience and use and results. There lay the answer, we don't need all this FDA, DHS, ATF crap, it's already too fucking big and too expensive!
That's literally what telemarketers like to use too.
Wanna bet telemarketers are on the list of targets who failed to set any security at all on their PBX's?
Wanna bet 4321 or 0000 or 1234 or 12345 or 00000 was what they had their annoying kit set to I even saw 123 being used as a password.
I worked for a telemarketer before. (Flame suit on) I did, and I noticed a theme, no firewall, simple guessable passwords everywhere. I wanted to add firewalls, and make all the default passwords harder to crack, but they weren't interested. The only thing they wanted me to do, was drill, pull twisted pairs, mount all their crap on the wall, hook it all up, get the video surveillance, workstations and digital dialers up as quick as possible. They already had an admin for the 600 win98SE workstations, and the dns server and win2000 server. I got finished, got paid, and I got the hell out cause everyone was either annoying, or pretty creepy anyway.
At some point there has to be some kind of shared responsibility. I mean with lists like this well known for years now.
Na, I guess not, just spy on everyone's communications and fry motherfuckers when they start to cost too much after the fact. It's the retarded American way.
Corporate media surgically removed Paul, and Kucinich. Then the game became, race vs sexism. All neatly wrapped in promises. Now the promises are broken, we finally see what the truth is (D) = (R) and they are both as corrupt. Perhaps the people only have Ron Paul, and Dennise Kucinich as the only two Senators who honestly uphold their oath.
At some point in time soon, we are going to have to redefine what a "credentialed journalist" is.
We have a problem when what is publicly perceived as "journalism" is in reality "propaganda" while the same "journalist" (sic) who published the propaganda (via their vast and controlled public spectrum (sic, we need to re-define public spectrum too, it isn't really public spectrum anymore when it's controlled and filtered by corporations, bandwidth and resources is granted a shiny plastic badge which says "MEDIA" on them, which allows them to pass through the door, escape police riots, but denies someone who might have more integrity, real questions, but perhaps no name recognition, a zero budget or negative budget with a shitty miniDV cam, an honorable desire to shine a light on corruption, all with no profit motive. There's no way the power structure wants people like this!
Getting paid to listen to lies and print them for profit and power is not journalism. It's fascism.
Your absolutely correct, fascism is absolutely here.
The arrogance now is to arrest anyone carrying a camera or not, who doesn't possess this fascist plastic card which say's, "MEDIA." It's a game called, free road trip to jail, beat the charge, while losing the story.
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That's called "public oversight" and with an "unbroken chain of custody", there will never be a failure. Break one of the TWO and FAIL but the same thing goes for electronic vote tabulation devices, break say chain of custody because humans can't see the signal representing the vote and you break the chain of custody.
CHAIN OF CUSTODY IS THE PROBLEM
ALL HARDWARE FAILS THIS DILEMMA
SOFTS RUNS ON THE HARDWARE
FRAVIA'S GHOST HATES YOU IDIOTS!
It's not a great post, there's holes through it.
Specifically a "Chain of Custody" dilemma with the electronic vote tabulation devices being used.
I don't wish such a project luck at all what so ever. All electronic vote tabulation devices must be outlawed.
To be fair, whether or not interpreted code executes correctly or not doesn't matter when YOU create the chips, starting at the doping level, and nobody but you has looked at any extra logic or specially crafted logic inside such chips.
To be fair, the other part of this attack is corporate media controlling all of public spectrum (another pandora's box of shit for another rainy slashdot day)
To be fair would be to outlaw all electronic vote tabulation devices nationally.
To be fair would be paper ballots, transparently marked, with public controlled oversight, with sanity check safeguards (RE: Cops trained in chain of custody who work FOR the public against officials, the public and themselves as nobody can be trusted.)
And yeah, it's human labor. So is Jury Duty! Coincidence?
I've written code that has been used to count ballots in both state and federal elections. Trust me
I don't trust you. I don't trust officials your all full of shit.
The Hardware isn't checked. PERIOD.
MASSIVE FAIL
FUCK ELECTRONIC VOTE TABULATION DEVICES!
How do you propose to verify that the source code has not been altered before or during the compilation process?
That's close, but not the entire problem. The entire problem is all these electronic signals (+5v High) (+3v Low) are running on chips which you never watched the doping process for. These signals furthermore are invisible to the human visibility spectrum.
What are we going to have poll watchers walk in with a spectrum analyzer, freq counter, logic analyzer, O scope, and simpson meters? I don't fucking think so.
Even if they did, they still can't know what the chips are actually doing.
Chips also burn out. (do they burn out or purposely burn up? what countermeasure is in place? none!)
The United States needs to use a paper ballot, hand counted, with an unbroken human and public chain of custody, and no electronic poll books either. (they've already been freaking exploited!)
Mail in should be discouraged as this is a "Broken Chain of Custody"
You might notice I use that phrase a lot. It's because no matter what method of voting, it is the problem.
With electronics the endgame is you can win more votes at once than you ever possibly could with paper and you can do it fast (3e8!)
That's the threat. If there's a election terrorist, it's whoever allowed this shit in the first place.
The public needs COPS working for them, no local law enforcement, specifically trained COPS who understand "chain of custody" and who won't allow either the public, themselves, or officials break the chain of custody!!!
Call me a Troll, burn in hell.
And you plan to run your well stripped, lean, mean linux on....
Specially crafted hardware at the doping level.
Verifiable:
each and every receipt can be shown to have words matching what the barcode says
This idea breaks TRANSPARENCY and is unacceptable.
I'm with you, but I add some info..
It also doesn't break the chain of custody with invisible electronic signals representing votes.
With paper ballots to break the chain of custody, officials have to pull some shit. Like saying DHS and the FBI have a terrorist attack, and the vault with the ballots will have to be left alone.
Or using local law enforcement to arrest poll watchers.
With electronic voting nearly every part of the system can be exploited. Starting with HARDWARE.
election terrorists?
Complete psyop propaganda.
Brad Friedman - http://bradblog.com/
Bev Harris - http://blackboxvoting.org/
These two people are as far from election terrorists as you can get.
The one thing you purposely leave out of this discussion is the broken chain of custody which electronic signals representing votes create.
Your software runs on hardware, hardware which is not checked, because to check such hardware you would have to destroy it by reverse engineering it under an electron microscope.
If you on slashdot listen to this idiot AC, our country is going to keep screwing up down the same path. Officials KNOW electronic voting is rigged, that's why in conjunction with corporate media they can never be held accountable.
And in every case where paper ballots were "cheated" there was a "broken chain of custody."
Put that in your pipe.
The PROCESS doesn't matter if the HARDWARE has been specially crafted at the doping level. How many of you in the OSV are checking the hardware with an electron microscope? None. I rest my case, Open Source Electronic Voting will Never fix the problem with a broken chain of custody.
Broken Chain of Custody IS the problem.
Although, what will likely happen.. is the OSV will somehow manage to snow over officials and Debra Bowen. You'll get open source to replace closed source, but the hardware will still be a problem and it will take us another 20 years to prove it and outlaw it nationally like all the rest of these electronic vote tabulation devices.
I find it very depressing that the majority of slashdot folks love the idea of open source voting but fail to waste 2 neurons on hardware security. Just cause it says a part number on a chip, doesn't mean that chip is what it says it is.
It's almost a waste of my time continuing to fight with you, but in the rare chance at least one of you smart programmers wakes up to the fact that ALL software runs on hardware, and the hardware isn't being checked at all. Frankly it can't be without destroying it under an electron microscope.
So you go ahead and push open source as your agenda, instead of outlawing these crappy broken unvalidatable insecure electronic vote tabulation devices, and enjoy the fact you can't hold your officials accountable, because you can't count your own fucking vote..
"So we must ask: what happens when every mobile user has an iPhone, a Palm Pre, a BlackBerry Tour, or whatever the next device is?"
The answer is simple microwaved popcorn!
I'll pass on win 7, and Vista
no pro tools 8 when ie8 is slipstreamed or installed - $200
no lexicon - $1500
no hp 3570c - $40
$1740 of hardware to be tossed out? For what?
$300 + 6 months of installing, testing, debugging, and serial number entering fun?!
Only to find various forms of box canyons, no u-turns, dead-ends and incompatibilities?
To spend months tracking down conflicts and debugging the system so there are no errors in the freaking CRAPPY ASS event viewer?
To spend months custom tweaking conflicting dll's, programs, and re-compiling custom code that might not work?
(And yeah if your wondering I use Linux, and FBSD, but not for Video/Audio workstations)
What Microsoft needs to do is cut it out with the once a month patch nonsense. Patch when the patch is available. DAILY.
The second thing is they need to provide a way to remove ie8 and roll it back to ie7 on any box.
Even if it was slipstreamed and has no god damned c:\windows\ie8\spuninstall.exe file existing.
(That ie8 breaks hell of shit besides pro tools, it breaks translation software also.)
If all you want to do is blog and buy shit off ebay I would push an ubuntu/debian on ya.
If you want to produce video and audio, you want an (32bit) XP SP3 with NO ie8!
And if that box has to face the web you want it hidden behind IPCop.
Still Microsoft is screwing up. I remember when they stopped updates on ftp.
They really suck, if you break IE8 you will not be able to update.
If you break IE8 you can not use system restore.
(Side note: turn system restore off your data drives!)
I now have a pair of drives, I clone the OS back and forth. And another for data drive, I don't back up.
I use Sun Virtual Box to create three ubuntu's which I use for
1. Blogs, dangerous web fun
2. eBay bidding, amazon shopping
3. Paypal/Banks
I am done with microsoft too, but in a different way. (I only wish I could figure out a way to download every potential driver for every known piece of hardware, so when they finally pull the plug, I will simply disconnect the XP workstation from internet access. (Why would you need access on a DAW/ Video worksta?) When you produce tv, you have to post times, and information about who's on the channel, you could technically just have two boxes, but when your not corporate media your limited by your financial ability, it's funny though cause I also found that security is ALSO limited by your financial ability.
As usual, I will lay low on the 14th and keep an ear up for problems before I patch.
Yeah that's right...
"We need to realize what we have and take advantage of it, we are the media and if we (collectively) wanted to, we could harm any politician that takes the side of the RIAA."
Like uh, you mean the vice president Biden?
lemme see if I can remember about Biden and RIAA or BIDEN and DRM... Oh that's right, he's a piece of shit on it all, just like Holt is on electronic voting machines.
Fascism. Plain and Simple. But hey, it's only the small stations. I am just a web user... that's right keep justifying this fascist shit in your minds. When your finally living in a shanty town and the armed cops are telling you to move every 24 hours keep justifying this nanny state bullshit fascist crap.
Don't vote for a D or R ever again! (with the exception of Kucinich and Paul) And protest until all electronic voting machines are outlawed
Run the streaming station in Sweden.
The fucking United States has gone completely fascist. A couple more years and you won't even be able to find a small band in your own fucking hometown.
I helped develop a Streaming Radio back when it was an early thing. I left after completing my part of the code. I watched them go through hell of shit with all this nonsense over the years. It would really be easier to just do a show on public access. From a tech point, there isn't much to streaming shit. We had edit files on home boxes then transfer (stream) them to a remote FBSD box that had hella bandwidth. A little interfacing to read back what the fuck was playing and add a forum, some graphics boom your up.
Then I hear some shit about they want a detailed list of what was played. heh. Then more, then more then more. Obviously this game has reached it's last stages of fascism for the USA.
It could be argued this would go against the 1st amendment. Especially when we are talking about streaming unsigned bands only. But our congress is owned by corporations. ergo fascism.
What's next?
I predict.
Streaming Video tax?
Blog Tax?
RSS feed tax?
Soda tax?
Thieving fucking bankster tax?
More cigarette tax?
Water tax?
Air tax?
But, maybe just maybe the American people will turn off the fucking TV get off their ass and protest in the streets until the fuckwads are in jail and the constitution is restored.
Really there's not much left now. Our government is hiding it from you seeing the big picture.
But if you leave that TV on, you'll just the stupid fucking sheep who will vote for a D or an R yet again. That is if your stupid fucking vote even comes out of the electronic voting machine.
I can't fucking believe I SERVED THIS COUNTRY!!!
Uh, Your vote goes up in the magic smoke?
Mod this up.
Because m 401k is now a 201k and we're pretty close to a bond market collapse. Not to mention the trillions taxpayers already dished out for the bankster gambling debts. Perhaps you can explain how your post on Slashdot has raised the temperature on the Sun, or changed the angle the Earth in relation to the Sun. Ahh, we get closer to the root of the NWO lies now.
This Cap and Trade comment brought to you by reality check.
Just who are the terrorists who have been using Uranium?
Should we start in Japan, or should we talk about Depleted Uranium?
That's not really fair.
You've forgotten about corporate media's roll in elimination of the good candidates. Paul and Kucinich.
Then you've forgotten about electronic vote tabulation devices.
An uninformed public leads to fascism.
We're uninformed, and we now live in a fascist country because of it.
You want to blame.
Start with everyone who broke their oath of office.
Start with corporate media.
Start with electronic voting machine legislation.
Cap & Trade = NWO
It's a scam to kill us off
Are you ready for the census 2010? Are you proud you legally bought your firearm and are on the registered database? What will you do when mandatory vaccinations come next (hint: swine flu pandemic level 6 by the WHO) and your on the list because of the census records and know to be armed because you registered your firearms? Extra credit for those who can tell us what happened last time the USA had mandatory vaccinations.
Clear is a domestic enemy. Just like the DHS and all this other fucking bullshit.
(One of these things doesn't go with the other. )
We can't even get electronic voting.
We need committees elected by people.
Electronic vote tabulation devices do not allow for public oversight. If you don't have public oversight, you are basically counting votes in secret, which isn't good for a supposedly constitutional republic
Why worry about games when we have
Other crackdowns...
Threats by the Chinese government, if they catch ya posting something they don't like.myspace-cn
If we analyze China, ourtreasury notes, current events, perhaps we should prepare for our future to be similar to Iceland.
Sweet, take the phrase "multi billion dollar vaccine industry", and change it to "multibillion dollar homeopathic" add the words "propaganda machine" and make the whole thing equal to doing nothing at all for a cold, all in one line.
Anarchy indeed.
We learned about Zicam by word of mouth. I can assure you that grandpa and grandma is not workin for the homeopathic industry. Neither are people at work, since... well... um, they're at work and I don't think they make zicam in the tool truck on a construction site.
Our family uses the disposable swabs. Both the allergy and the cold swabs, not the spray for several years now. Nobody has this problem. But it has shortened colds. And helped with allergies. (None of us use any nose sprays by any brand)
Before we all go off the deep end and get's yet another "alternative cure" (regardless if you agree or disagree it's a cure) banned in lieu of big pharmacist, expensive drugs, big hospital bills, questionable safety in our vaccinations, all while having no health care, and a government which has welfare for banksters, warfare and surveillance.
Ever think this might be purposely targeted so you'll have no cure to specially crafted bugs which accidentally escape super labs?
I don't know that it is, or isn't and I ain't trying to be paranoid, I am just throwing the idea out there, cause I'm fucking sick and tired of the lies that come from my government, to the point where I don't trust anything they fucking say anymore. Which leaves me with validating facts on my own. The media has literally become a dangerous cult.
I don't know about you, but I am not willing to give up a product which frankly worked fine for my family several years now, in exchange for a Goebbels Media pushing a fucking "Prescription for America" when no opposing views including Single Payer were allowed in discussions.
The debate about if it's homeopathy or not, I don't care. It's a political narco profit motivated fascist argument. You go ahead and waste several million or billion on such nonsense and it's research, legal fights, and bureaucracy.
Keep in mind they are already trying to fuck with the codex.
I am much more simple.
I go by if the fucking thing works or not.
In OUR family's case zicam swabs (Cold and Allergy) works just fine, no loss of smell. We also followed the instructions carefully.
I can't speak to the spray.
We also use oil of oregano, and many other food supplements.
Of course all this is my opinion, and as it should be implied. Ask your friends and neighbors if they have problems. Not what they hear on the tv, you want to know first hand experience and use and results. There lay the answer, we don't need all this FDA, DHS, ATF crap, it's already too fucking big and too expensive!
Turn the tv off.
That's literally what telemarketers like to use too.
Wanna bet telemarketers are on the list of targets who failed to set any security at all on their PBX's?
Wanna bet
4321 or 0000 or 1234 or 12345 or 00000 was what they had their annoying kit set to I even saw 123 being used as a password.
I worked for a telemarketer before. (Flame suit on) I did, and I noticed a theme, no firewall, simple guessable passwords everywhere. I wanted to add firewalls, and make all the default passwords harder to crack, but they weren't interested. The only thing they wanted me to do, was drill, pull twisted pairs, mount all their crap on the wall, hook it all up, get the video surveillance, workstations and digital dialers up as quick as possible. They already had an admin for the 600 win98SE workstations, and the dns server and win2000 server. I got finished, got paid, and I got the hell out cause everyone was either annoying, or pretty creepy anyway.
At some point there has to be some kind of shared responsibility. I mean with lists like this well known for years now.
Na, I guess not, just spy on everyone's communications and fry motherfuckers when they start to cost too much after the fact. It's the retarded American way.
Bravo Bodhammer!
Corporate media surgically removed Paul, and Kucinich. Then the game became, race vs sexism. All neatly wrapped in promises.
Now the promises are broken, we finally see what the truth is (D) = (R) and they are both as corrupt. Perhaps the people only have Ron Paul, and Dennise Kucinich as the only two Senators who honestly uphold their oath.
It's also interesting to note just recently AP had the big flap about folks using their articles, and the AP sicking the DMCA on them.
At some point in time soon, we are going to have to redefine what a "credentialed journalist" is.
We have a problem when what is publicly perceived as "journalism" is in reality "propaganda" while the same "journalist" (sic) who published the propaganda (via their vast and controlled public spectrum (sic, we need to re-define public spectrum too, it isn't really public spectrum anymore when it's controlled and filtered by corporations, bandwidth and resources is granted a shiny plastic badge which says "MEDIA" on them, which allows them to pass through the door, escape police riots, but denies someone who might have more integrity, real questions, but perhaps no name recognition, a zero budget or negative budget with a shitty miniDV cam, an honorable desire to shine a light on corruption, all with no profit motive. There's no way the power structure wants people like this!
Getting paid to listen to lies and print them for profit and power is not journalism. It's fascism.
Your absolutely correct, fascism is absolutely here.
The arrogance now is to arrest anyone carrying a camera or not, who doesn't possess this fascist plastic card which say's, "MEDIA." It's a game called, free road trip to jail, beat the charge, while losing the story.
This isn't conspiracy anymore, it's reality.