Switching time is generally on the order of microseconds. Routing time COULD be longer, that depends. Number of hops to local destinations is generally going to vary between 4 and 8 hops, depending on ISP.
For local destinations, latency should be around 15-30ms. The majority seems to happen when you shift from one ISP to another; I dont know the full reasons. If you are staying all within comcast, your latency can be astonishingly low. (10ms)
The funny thing is that much of the Office functionality actually didn't come from Microsoft - the products were acquired and then integrated into the Office suite.
Please explain why, when I am evaluating software for deployment, that has any relevance.
The applications folder, last I checked, resided on the root of the OSX filesystem (/Applications). That is a system directory which a non-admin will not have rights to.
Many OSX apps do have "installers", even though as you point out they are just disk-images that request you to drag the.app over to/Applications. Arguing whether that is an "installer" isnt terribly relevenat.
Well, OS X already has built-in antivirus since Snow Leopard IIRC. Just google XProtect.
And Windows has Windows Defender. Both are absolutely worthless, because anyone developing a virus will at the get-go ensure it gets around that built-in antivirus. Makes it easy to test against when every single target machine has the same defense on it, doesnt it?
More accurately... Spanning Tree Protocol: Allows you to interconnect several switches in a way which would normally cause switching loops, but instead allows for redundant switching paths.
VLAN-- allows you to separate a single switch into multiple broadcast domains.
Except for when they burn down churches and assault missionaries, sure, theyre wonderfully tolerant. I have a friend who is an indian and a christian who hasnt told his family because of the repercussions (disowning etc). If you think India is religiously tolerant, you are sadly mistaken.
A) electricity does not always propagate at the full speed of light. B) assuming it does, it is still a significant latency factor-- ping times of 200ms from New York to Shanghai are reasonable (depending on your ISP), and speed-of-light delays would contribute 50+ms to that each way assuming a straight westbound path (which is unlikely). (Note that it IS shorter to fly north instead of west, but that is not how the cables are laid).
If you were to ping all the way into a local chinese endpoint, you would see significant latency occur at the transition from US routers to Chinese routers, but I assume that is because of the crazy IDS / DPI stuff they do.
On Windows there is a user called System and most programs need to be installed/run as the system user which gives a virus Trojan unlimited access to the full system.
Thats just plain not accurate on several levels.
For starters, I have never in my life seen an installer that needed to run as System. Administrator, yes, but thats not the same thing. For another, you need to install system programs on Mac as root, which IS the same thing as "the system user", as it has the highest rights on the system.
Third, most programs do NOT need to be installed as an admin-- you can install them to the local user's folder. I assume you could pull this off in a Mac, but Im not sure.
If you have a knowledgeable user on a Mac he can run the system securely with out a need for a virus scanner. Unfortunately on Windows you do not have this option.
Baloney. If youre downloading random executables from the net, I suppose you might want that scanner; but if your browser plugins are out of date it wont matter terribly much what OS you use or whether you have a scanner, as each year's Pwn2Own proves (with Mac getting hacked first each time).
How are you going to explain VLANs, STP, and ACLs to your grandmother? Has it occurred to you that there are, in fact, situations where all of those technologies are useful?
Has it also occurred that if you are properly securing your network with port security, you cant just walk in and plug something in and have it work?
The "Im a PC ads" certainly made that statement. Youre not going to look at this ad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQb_Q8WRL_g...and tell me that the implication isnt supposed to be that "Macs are immune to viruses".
I also find it telling that folks who are not very technical and not qualified to comment on the security of an OS somehow have this idea that Macs cant get viruses. Now where do you suppose that assumption comes from?
So if we can ensure that only the good teachers are getting tenure because we have a good school board, why do we need tenure?
This is some kind of circular reasoning: You only need tenure to protect against bad decisions by a school board, but you have to hope that the tenure decision is made by a good school board.
believe verb (used without object) 1. to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.
verb (used with object) 2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to. 3. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person). 4. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation: The fugitive is believed to be headed for the Mexican border. 5. to suppose or assume; understand (usually followed by a noun clause): I believe that he has left town.
So do you have confidence or faith in the truth of the assertion of global warming? Do you give credence to it, have confidence in it?
I know it feels clever to make these subtle jabs at this kind of language so when the inevitable religion flamewar breaks out, the terms will already be poisoned, but its not terribly honest.
How do you ensure that the teacher getting tenure is the good teacher, and not that incompetent brother-in-law of a city councilman? If its the incompetent brother-in-law, what do you do about him once he has tenure?
9th grade teachers are supposed to prepare their students for the SAT, 10th grade, and eventually college, right? So keep tabs of each 9th grade teacher's pupil's SAT scores, 10th grade performance, and college entrance.
After a few years, you should see some clear trends with certain 9th grade teacher's students doing better or worse in 10th grade, on average, than other 9th grade teachers. Ditto with SAT scores, and college acceptance.
Do the same with 10th grade, 11th grade (look at % of students entering AP classes too), and 12th grade (focus on college acceptance rates, but also final score; also possibly keep tabs on freshman performance in college).
Thats not teaching to the test, its evaluating what the teachers are actually supposed to be doing, and averaging over 2-3 years and removing outliers should give a pretty clear picture of what teachers are less than stellar.
Orrrrr, avoid all the hassle and make everyone non-admin, with a single "Installer" admin account with a password. UAC will take care of all of the magic.
A friend set this up for my brother a few years ago, and I was seriously impressed with what a simple, great idea it is for home users: user cannot just "click next" (they have to consciously enter a password), and it really is easy to train them to use it.
And if they get a virus, its pretty darn simple to login as installer, open Sysinternals Autoruns, and check that user's startup entries. Disinfection takes all of about 3 minutes.
If the kid does not have admin access, he can install a userland rootkit, userland keylogger, whatever, but it will not run when other users are logged in, for a few reasons.
For one, non-admins can only add startup programs to their own per-user "startup" folder, or HKCU run key. For another, the only write access a malicious program would have is to the user's own folder, so it could not trick another user's profile into launching it. Finally, even if somehow another user's startup menu got a link to that keylogger binary, it would be unable to run it as that other user would not have read rights to the original user's profile.
And all of this is irrelevant: to sniff passwords during login, you need a system driver installed with full admin, not some userland keylogger which is terminated at logout.
Very strangely (from my point of view), you aren't talking about *evidence* at all. You're just appealing to your culturally-moderated intuitions about what kind of religion makes more sense.
No, Im talking about evidence, and the fact that I believe that there is evidence that we actually exist. I believe, at the very least, that a religion which takes that stance is more supported by "the evidence" than one which does not, in contradiction to the statement you made.
Youre going off on a tangent about miracles, which isnt relevant to the discussion-- you made a clearcut statement that, in a nutshell, all religions were equally grounded or ungrounded, which I say is hogwash and reeks of postmodernism. And it creates quite a conundrum for your own beliefs, since there is no particular reason they should get a bye: surely they too must be rejected out of hand if all other belief systems must go? (At least, that appear to be the form of your argument)
So far as I can tell, there isn't any such evidence. Every religion has its traditions, its wisdom, its miracles, its mystics who testify to their personal encounter with The Divine, etc. Maybe I'm in the market for a religion: on what basis can I choose one over another with full confidence that I'm getting the right one - unlike the majority of the people in the world, who are 100% convinced that they got the right one, even though they picked something else?
Ill play ball. I would say a religion that denies that man has a capacity for selfishness would off the bat have a mark against it for being grounded in fantasy, demonstrable in a single day in the life of the average person. I would say that a religion that correctly describes the behaviors and motivations of humans would get a mark in its favor.
You seem to have some misconception that religious texts are wholly unconcerned with the here, the now, the material, what occurs in life. I can only speak to christianity, but it makes bold statements about what man Ought to do (and what would, incidentally, bring him contentment), and yet what he will find himself unable to do. The fact that it captures that duality-- that for instance, anger solves nothing, and truly is an expression of violence (if only imagined) against another party, and that we yet find ourselves unable to restrain from it; or that adultery does not ultimately satisfy and yet we are drawn to it-- makes a compelling case.
Evidence! Why should anyone accept one religion and reject all the others?
Alternatively, why be an atheist, rather than religious? One must decide what they believe; to quote Pascal, the one thing you cannot do is refuse to play at all.
No, its FUD, because free Hotmail and Gmail have the same privacy issues, and paid MS mail and Gmail dont. Ditto with the "auto-updates" and missing features-- the online versions of both Office365 and Google Docs both lack features and update.
But MS is somehow trying to paint all of the issues that come with "the cloud" as only being on Google's end, and then pretending that all of the good parts are only on Microsoft's end. Its dishonest, and the ads are stupid, to boot.
Googlelighting has a couple of relevant points, I guess, but its also pretty stupid, and the even more so because theyre having to use a Google service to distribute their ads (because their own service is such a non-entity).
Considering that with every product they discontinue, Google gives AMPLE notice, and they always make it a cinch to export whatever data in whatever format, for small businesses the answer is "yes". Google tends to be one of the BEST cloud places to put data because they dont lock you in if you ever want to get out,
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Switching time is generally on the order of microseconds. Routing time COULD be longer, that depends. Number of hops to local destinations is generally going to vary between 4 and 8 hops, depending on ISP.
For local destinations, latency should be around 15-30ms. The majority seems to happen when you shift from one ISP to another; I dont know the full reasons. If you are staying all within comcast, your latency can be astonishingly low. (10ms)
For all your bravado, your ignorance is showing:
And while DDoS is relatively easy to implement, the LOIC those "geniuses" came up with is a crappy tool.
Not only did they not create LOIC (it was created by a researcher for stress testing), but they no longer use it. They use HOIC now.
The funny thing is that much of the Office functionality actually didn't come from Microsoft - the products were acquired and then integrated into the Office suite.
Please explain why, when I am evaluating software for deployment, that has any relevance.
The applications folder, last I checked, resided on the root of the OSX filesystem (/Applications). That is a system directory which a non-admin will not have rights to.
Many OSX apps do have "installers", even though as you point out they are just disk-images that request you to drag the .app over to /Applications. Arguing whether that is an "installer" isnt terribly relevenat.
Well, OS X already has built-in antivirus since Snow Leopard IIRC. Just google XProtect.
And Windows has Windows Defender. Both are absolutely worthless, because anyone developing a virus will at the get-go ensure it gets around that built-in antivirus. Makes it easy to test against when every single target machine has the same defense on it, doesnt it?
Any reason Mac OSX (fully patched) has been the first to fall in the yearly Pwn2Own since its inception, if what youre saying is accurate?
More accurately...
Spanning Tree Protocol: Allows you to interconnect several switches in a way which would normally cause switching loops, but instead allows for redundant switching paths.
VLAN-- allows you to separate a single switch into multiple broadcast domains.
Is it your contention that there are no people anywhere who changed sexual preference?
Because that appears to be what Santorum actually said.
Except for when they burn down churches and assault missionaries, sure, theyre wonderfully tolerant. I have a friend who is an indian and a christian who hasnt told his family because of the repercussions (disowning etc). If you think India is religiously tolerant, you are sadly mistaken.
A) electricity does not always propagate at the full speed of light.
B) assuming it does, it is still a significant latency factor-- ping times of 200ms from New York to Shanghai are reasonable (depending on your ISP), and speed-of-light delays would contribute 50+ms to that each way assuming a straight westbound path (which is unlikely). (Note that it IS shorter to fly north instead of west, but that is not how the cables are laid).
If you were to ping all the way into a local chinese endpoint, you would see significant latency occur at the transition from US routers to Chinese routers, but I assume that is because of the crazy IDS / DPI stuff they do.
On Windows there is a user called System and most programs need to be installed/run as the system user which gives a virus Trojan unlimited access to the full system.
Thats just plain not accurate on several levels.
For starters, I have never in my life seen an installer that needed to run as System. Administrator, yes, but thats not the same thing. For another, you need to install system programs on Mac as root, which IS the same thing as "the system user", as it has the highest rights on the system.
Third, most programs do NOT need to be installed as an admin-- you can install them to the local user's folder. I assume you could pull this off in a Mac, but Im not sure.
If you have a knowledgeable user on a Mac he can run the system securely with out a need for a virus scanner. Unfortunately on Windows you do not have this option.
Baloney. If youre downloading random executables from the net, I suppose you might want that scanner; but if your browser plugins are out of date it wont matter terribly much what OS you use or whether you have a scanner, as each year's Pwn2Own proves (with Mac getting hacked first each time).
How are you going to explain VLANs, STP, and ACLs to your grandmother? Has it occurred to you that there are, in fact, situations where all of those technologies are useful?
Has it also occurred that if you are properly securing your network with port security, you cant just walk in and plug something in and have it work?
The "Im a PC ads" certainly made that statement. Youre not going to look at this ad... ...and tell me that the implication isnt supposed to be that "Macs are immune to viruses".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQb_Q8WRL_g
I also find it telling that folks who are not very technical and not qualified to comment on the security of an OS somehow have this idea that Macs cant get viruses. Now where do you suppose that assumption comes from?
So if we can ensure that only the good teachers are getting tenure because we have a good school board, why do we need tenure?
This is some kind of circular reasoning: You only need tenure to protect against bad decisions by a school board, but you have to hope that the tenure decision is made by a good school board.
Youre playing semantics.
believe
verb (used without object)
1. to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.
verb (used with object)
2. to have confidence or faith in the truth of (a positive assertion, story, etc.); give credence to.
3. to have confidence in the assertions of (a person).
4. to have a conviction that (a person or thing) is, has been, or will be engaged in a given action or involved in a given situation: The fugitive is believed to be headed for the Mexican border.
5. to suppose or assume; understand (usually followed by a noun clause): I believe that he has left town.
So do you have confidence or faith in the truth of the assertion of global warming? Do you give credence to it, have confidence in it?
I know it feels clever to make these subtle jabs at this kind of language so when the inevitable religion flamewar breaks out, the terms will already be poisoned, but its not terribly honest.
How do you ensure that the teacher getting tenure is the good teacher, and not that incompetent brother-in-law of a city councilman? If its the incompetent brother-in-law, what do you do about him once he has tenure?
This isnt hard.
9th grade teachers are supposed to prepare their students for the SAT, 10th grade, and eventually college, right? So keep tabs of each 9th grade teacher's pupil's SAT scores, 10th grade performance, and college entrance.
After a few years, you should see some clear trends with certain 9th grade teacher's students doing better or worse in 10th grade, on average, than other 9th grade teachers. Ditto with SAT scores, and college acceptance.
Do the same with 10th grade, 11th grade (look at % of students entering AP classes too), and 12th grade (focus on college acceptance rates, but also final score; also possibly keep tabs on freshman performance in college).
Thats not teaching to the test, its evaluating what the teachers are actually supposed to be doing, and averaging over 2-3 years and removing outliers should give a pretty clear picture of what teachers are less than stellar.
And I feel like people with entitlement complexes who feel compelled to justify their freeloading ruin slashdot.
Orrrrr, avoid all the hassle and make everyone non-admin, with a single "Installer" admin account with a password. UAC will take care of all of the magic.
A friend set this up for my brother a few years ago, and I was seriously impressed with what a simple, great idea it is for home users: user cannot just "click next" (they have to consciously enter a password), and it really is easy to train them to use it.
And if they get a virus, its pretty darn simple to login as installer, open Sysinternals Autoruns, and check that user's startup entries. Disinfection takes all of about 3 minutes.
If the kid does not have admin access, he can install a userland rootkit, userland keylogger, whatever, but it will not run when other users are logged in, for a few reasons.
For one, non-admins can only add startup programs to their own per-user "startup" folder, or HKCU run key.
For another, the only write access a malicious program would have is to the user's own folder, so it could not trick another user's profile into launching it.
Finally, even if somehow another user's startup menu got a link to that keylogger binary, it would be unable to run it as that other user would not have read rights to the original user's profile.
And all of this is irrelevant: to sniff passwords during login, you need a system driver installed with full admin, not some userland keylogger which is terminated at logout.
In this thread, we obey the laws of thermodynamics.
Very strangely (from my point of view), you aren't talking about *evidence* at all. You're just appealing to your culturally-moderated intuitions about what kind of religion makes more sense.
No, Im talking about evidence, and the fact that I believe that there is evidence that we actually exist. I believe, at the very least, that a religion which takes that stance is more supported by "the evidence" than one which does not, in contradiction to the statement you made.
Youre going off on a tangent about miracles, which isnt relevant to the discussion-- you made a clearcut statement that, in a nutshell, all religions were equally grounded or ungrounded, which I say is hogwash and reeks of postmodernism. And it creates quite a conundrum for your own beliefs, since there is no particular reason they should get a bye: surely they too must be rejected out of hand if all other belief systems must go? (At least, that appear to be the form of your argument)
So far as I can tell, there isn't any such evidence. Every religion has its traditions, its wisdom, its miracles, its mystics who testify to their personal encounter with The Divine, etc. Maybe I'm in the market for a religion: on what basis can I choose one over another with full confidence that I'm getting the right one - unlike the majority of the people in the world, who are 100% convinced that they got the right one, even though they picked something else?
Ill play ball. I would say a religion that denies that man has a capacity for selfishness would off the bat have a mark against it for being grounded in fantasy, demonstrable in a single day in the life of the average person. I would say that a religion that correctly describes the behaviors and motivations of humans would get a mark in its favor.
You seem to have some misconception that religious texts are wholly unconcerned with the here, the now, the material, what occurs in life. I can only speak to christianity, but it makes bold statements about what man Ought to do (and what would, incidentally, bring him contentment), and yet what he will find himself unable to do. The fact that it captures that duality-- that for instance, anger solves nothing, and truly is an expression of violence (if only imagined) against another party, and that we yet find ourselves unable to restrain from it; or that adultery does not ultimately satisfy and yet we are drawn to it-- makes a compelling case.
Evidence! Why should anyone accept one religion and reject all the others?
Alternatively, why be an atheist, rather than religious? One must decide what they believe; to quote Pascal, the one thing you cannot do is refuse to play at all.
No, its FUD, because free Hotmail and Gmail have the same privacy issues, and paid MS mail and Gmail dont. Ditto with the "auto-updates" and missing features-- the online versions of both Office365 and Google Docs both lack features and update.
But MS is somehow trying to paint all of the issues that come with "the cloud" as only being on Google's end, and then pretending that all of the good parts are only on Microsoft's end. Its dishonest, and the ads are stupid, to boot.
Googlelighting has a couple of relevant points, I guess, but its also pretty stupid, and the even more so because theyre having to use a Google service to distribute their ads (because their own service is such a non-entity).
Considering that with every product they discontinue, Google gives AMPLE notice, and they always make it a cinch to export whatever data in whatever format, for small businesses the answer is "yes". Google tends to be one of the BEST cloud places to put data because they dont lock you in if you ever want to get out,
MS Office runs on Mac, and has for the longest time.
You dont think the free hotmail is also looking for keywords to send you ads? You dont think Bing gathers info on you for advertising?
I love how Microsoft tries to pretend theyre not in the advertising industry, but its not terribly convincing. At least google is up front about it.