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/*FLAME ON I hope to enlighten you 'NON-TECHNICAL PEOPLE' on the situation at hand. We may be a little angry, but surely you must sympathize.... I know you can use the analogy that if I left my door open at night, it doesn't give anyone the right to walk in and steal stuff, but in this day and age, i'd be STUPID AND DUMB to leave my door open and leave my house wide OPEN to be raped by some perp! This type of situation is VERY COMMON in the IT Industry. People who think they know everything about computers or people who CHEAP OUT on getting their network setup, run into problems afterwards because they didn't HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE. NUFF SAID!!! I mean, why is MPAA just admit they screwed up and make the encryption STRONGER. If some 16 year old can crack it, then obviously there are many others in the world that can probably DO THE SAME. If a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST' can "figure out/crack" DVD Encryption, I think a little more WORK needs to be done to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. HELLO! How can a 16 year old computer enthusiast's 'ideas/creation' be a THREAT to companies like CNN, Time Warner etc. They are weaker then I thought!!!! Do you know why it was created? This is why....... Until a while ago, DVD playback was only possible on Microsoft Windows and Mac systems. As usual, the Linux people (this goes for people using other ``alternative'' systems too) were not too happy about this. The DVD industry has refused (and still refuses) to support Linux, probably because they think the market share is too small or because they think Linux people don't really care. More info: http://www.opendvd.org/journalists.html If he didn't figure it out, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And it would have probably been for malicious purposes. So wake the hell up... and do a better job. Don't blame others for mistakes they didn't make. Why didn't the MPAA/DVD-CCA hire ENCRYPTION EXPERTS like RSA, Phil Zimmerman or the NSA to help with the encryption? Don't do something that you don't understand! ex. DVD Encryption You can't fight what you don't know what you are up against! The case has blown up in the MPAA's faces!!! Now that everyone knows, the more the source code will spread. You can't stop it anymore. The MPAA/DVDCAA is responsible for that, and no one else. SPECTATE OR MAKE A MOVE, HESITATE OR REGULATE ITS ON YOU FIGHT THE POWER /*FLAME OFF
All I have to say is, if a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST'can crack DVD Encryption, I think more WORK needs to be put in to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. If it wasn't him, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And you should thank your lucky stars that he actually published it! He "could" have been malicious about it and not said anything, but did he do that? NO. So wake the fuck up... do a better job, and don't blame others for mistakes other people made. The people that the MPAA or whoever is charging who, should go after the people who originally came up with the crappy work! Why didn't they hire someone like the NSA or RSA to setup some sort of encryption algorithm that some normal 16 year old can't hack... NUFF SAID. TO HELL WITH RIAA/MPAA/WTO and anyone who stands in front of information democracy!!!!
All I have to say is, if a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST'can crack DVD Encryption, I think more WORK needs to be put in to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. If it wasn't him, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And you should thank your lucky stars that he actually publishedit! He "could" have been malicious about it and not said anything, but did he do that? NO. So wake the fuck up... do a better job, and don't blame others for mistakes other people made. The people that the MPAA or whoever is charging who, should go after the people who originally came up with the crappy work! Why didn't they hire someone like the NSA or RSA to setup some sort of encryption algorithm that some normal 16 year old can't hack... NUFF SAID FUCK WTO
Computers are intricate pieces of hardware. It takes more then 2 weeks of training to simply learn how to troubleshoot a PC.
Troubleshooting is a skill acquired over many years of experience. Its not learned within a span of 2 weeks.
What gets me about users are those that "think" they know it all, but really don't. I don't know it all either, and I don't make people think I know everything, but I bet you any money I can find out the answer. I have the skills to know where to look and I know the basic's. ex. If a user asked me about SMTP, I'd fork over RFCxxx#.
UID also applies to users. User Intelligence Deficiency.
Some users just don't get it. Some users are IGNORANT and LAZY and want everyone else to do their work for them. I don't like those users. Some users don't have the brains/capacity to remember certain things, like their password.
I'm more inclined to help users who actually show some brains when asking me for help, rather then some dumb user who asks me the same question week after week.
I guess that means simple things for simple people...
I'm not saying all users are loser. I'm just saying the users who are lazy and ignorant and who refuse to learn are dumb.
I'll give everyone a first chance, after that, its up to them to impress me.
For example, what about those loser admins who are setting up web servers and then they end up getting the site defaced because of inexperience? People need to LEARN about setting up operating systems first.
Are drivers allowed to drive without some sort of license? I don't think so...
There was a comment made re: lower violence among kids in Canada? Non-existent? I say bullocks to that!!! In Toronto, there was a swarming that killed a 15 year old boy who was sticking up for his friends. And a girl just got gang raped by 6 guys on Victoria Park Ave. last Friday. I really don't feel like why I think kids are acting the way they are these days... I'm at work right now and don't have 2-3 hours to rant and rave...
speaking of extraterrestrial objects, i'm living in Canada and was travelling across the 407 ETR near Goreway Dr in Brampton at about 8:45-9:30pm - when I noticed a green and red light dart across the sky. This was on Sunday night, November 28. I thought it was something local in the area, like a movie theatre, but wasn't aware of any flashing lights into the sky, cuz sometimes that happens. It was a real strange colour that I'd never seen flashed into the sky...
Hi, I suggest you actually PROVE to them how vulnerable it is. Some people are just stubborn until you actually show them - "Seeing is believing". Gee, why not hack one of the people's accounts that called you paranoid - THEN WE'LL SEE WHO IS REALLY PARANOID. Newbie users don't understand the inherent insecurities of the Internet and the possible major problems that it could bring and they are only want to make money. They must be shown otherwise! Ignorance is futile!
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valentij@mpaa.org WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it doesn't bounce back.. lets send him a message!!!!
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I hope to enlighten you 'NON-TECHNICAL PEOPLE' on the situation at hand. We may be a little angry, but surely you must sympathize....
I know you can use the analogy that if I left my door open at night, it doesn't give anyone the right to walk in and steal stuff, but in this day and age, i'd be STUPID AND DUMB to leave my door open and leave my house wide OPEN to be raped by some perp!
This type of situation is VERY COMMON in the IT Industry. People who think they know everything about computers or people who CHEAP OUT on getting their network setup, run into problems afterwards because they didn't HIRE THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
NUFF SAID!!! I mean, why is MPAA just admit they screwed up and make the encryption STRONGER. If some 16 year old can crack it, then obviously there are many others in the world that can probably DO THE SAME.
If a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST' can "figure out/crack" DVD Encryption, I think a little more WORK needs to be done to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. HELLO!
How can a 16 year old computer enthusiast's 'ideas/creation' be a THREAT to companies like CNN, Time Warner etc. They are weaker then I thought!!!!
Do you know why it was created? This is why.......
Until a while ago, DVD playback was only possible on Microsoft Windows and Mac systems. As usual, the Linux people (this goes for people using other ``alternative'' systems too) were not too happy about this.
The DVD industry has refused (and still refuses) to support Linux, probably because they think the market share is too small or because they think Linux people don't really care.
More info: http://www.opendvd.org/journalists.html
If he didn't figure it out, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And it would have probably been for malicious purposes.
So wake the hell up... and do a better job. Don't blame others for mistakes they didn't make.
Why didn't the MPAA/DVD-CCA hire ENCRYPTION EXPERTS like RSA, Phil Zimmerman or the NSA to help with the encryption?
Don't do something that you don't understand! ex. DVD Encryption You can't fight what you don't know what you are up against!
The case has blown up in the MPAA's faces!!! Now that everyone knows, the more the source code will spread.
You can't stop it anymore. The MPAA/DVDCAA is responsible for that, and no one else.
SPECTATE OR MAKE A MOVE, HESITATE OR REGULATE ITS ON YOU
FIGHT THE POWER
All I have to say is, if a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST'can crack DVD Encryption, I think more WORK needs to be put in to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. If it wasn't him, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And you should thank your lucky stars that he actually published it! He "could" have been malicious about it and not said anything, but did he do that? NO. So wake the fuck up... do a better job, and don't blame others for mistakes other people made. The people that the MPAA or whoever is charging who, should go after the people who originally came up with the crappy work! Why didn't they hire someone like the NSA or RSA to setup some sort of encryption algorithm that some normal 16 year old can't hack... NUFF SAID. TO HELL WITH RIAA/MPAA/WTO and anyone who stands in front of information democracy!!!!
All I have to say is, if a 16 year old 'COMPUTER ENTHUSIAST'can crack DVD Encryption, I think more WORK needs to be put in to safe guard the copyright protection of DVDs. If it wasn't him, it was going to be someone else sooner or later. And you should thank your lucky stars that he actually publishedit! He "could" have been malicious about it and not said anything, but did he do that? NO. So wake the fuck up... do a better job, and don't blame others for mistakes other people made. The people that the MPAA or whoever is charging who, should go after the people who originally came up with the crappy work! Why didn't they hire someone like the NSA or RSA to setup some sort of encryption algorithm that some normal 16 year old can't hack... NUFF SAID FUCK WTO
Computers are intricate pieces of hardware.
It takes more then 2 weeks of training to simply learn how to troubleshoot a PC.
Troubleshooting is a skill acquired over many years of experience. Its not learned within a span of 2 weeks.
What gets me about users are those that "think" they know it all, but really don't. I don't know it all either, and I don't make people think I know everything, but I bet you any money I can find out the answer. I have the skills to know where to look and I know the basic's. ex. If a user asked me about SMTP, I'd fork over RFCxxx#.
UID also applies to users. User Intelligence Deficiency.
Some users just don't get it. Some users are IGNORANT and LAZY and want everyone else to do their work for them. I don't like those users. Some users don't have the brains/capacity to remember certain things, like their password.
I'm more inclined to help users who actually show some brains when asking me for help, rather then some dumb user who asks me the same question week after week.
I guess that means simple things for simple people...
I'm not saying all users are loser. I'm just saying the users who are lazy and ignorant and who refuse to learn are dumb.
I'll give everyone a first chance, after that, its up to them to impress me.
For example, what about those loser admins who are setting up web servers and then they end up getting the site defaced because of inexperience? People need to LEARN about setting up operating systems first.
Are drivers allowed to drive without some sort of license? I don't think so...
Lucent has a product called WaveAccess that is specifically designed for the outdoors. WaveLAN is more internal... Wave Access
There was a comment made re: lower violence among kids in Canada? Non-existent? I say bullocks to that!!! In Toronto, there was a swarming that killed a 15 year old boy who was sticking up for his friends. And a girl just got gang raped by 6 guys on Victoria Park Ave. last Friday. I really don't feel like why I think kids are acting the way they are these days... I'm at work right now and don't have 2-3 hours to rant and rave...
speaking of extraterrestrial objects, i'm living in Canada and was travelling across the 407 ETR near Goreway Dr in Brampton at about 8:45-9:30pm - when I noticed a green and red light dart across the sky. This was on Sunday night, November 28. I thought it was something local in the area, like a movie theatre, but wasn't aware of any flashing lights into the sky, cuz sometimes that happens. It was a real strange colour that I'd never seen flashed into the sky...
So does that mean if I use a Windows 95 box and use telnet or ping, that would implicate Microsoft in the crime?!!! I only wish...
Hi, I suggest you actually PROVE to them how vulnerable it is. Some people are just stubborn until you actually show them - "Seeing is believing". Gee, why not hack one of the people's accounts that called you paranoid - THEN WE'LL SEE WHO IS REALLY PARANOID. Newbie users don't understand the inherent insecurities of the Internet and the possible major problems that it could bring and they are only want to make money. They must be shown otherwise! Ignorance is futile!