It is not loss of future income when all your sales stop. If we lay you off of your useless job and you stop receiving a paycheck the lay off costs you money. On top of that you are an idiot or a fool or a troll. Communication ceased.
So. You have never had a business. You know nothing about business. Nothing. When the Store was shut down for months on end that was not "Future Money" they were losing. (Yes. LOSING) When a tornado hits you store you not only lose money from the damage and products lost but also YOU LOSE THE MONEY you would be making while you are shut down. Some insurances cover this as YOU ARE LOSING MONEY. Every business takes this into account. Money lost do to lost sales during renovations. Even when the store stays open but loses business do to customers not wanting to deal with it. These are all loses. Also future customer losses are very real. Open a store. After each sale to a customer tell them to "Fuck off". You still get the sale. All you will lose is "Future Customers". Since this is not a "Real Loss" your business should do fine. Right?
I did not realize that I stated equality between what happened to the customers and what happened to Sony. I only stated that they lost a lot of money and pissed off their customers. Since though I have to be seen by you as an apologist for Sony you can throw whatever meaning you like to feel better about yourself.
You think that the Sony store being shut down for months on end cost... Your words here... "Not a Dime." Not a dime in lost sales from the store that did not work. Not a dime in lost sales on consoles during the time that none of them could go online. Not a dime in future sales from the massive number of people they pissed off. Either you are a tool for Microsoft or an idiot. I no longer care to find out which.
Hmm. How exactly would you design a autonomous vehicle that can not see what comes into contact with it? I ask how You would do it because I do not know anyone else that would.
Yup. Because there is no way a computer can take into consideration wind, drag, traction, weight, speed, available torque, current momentum and also keep track of obstacles and get to where it wants to go. A computer powerful enough to handle that kind of stuff would not be able to fit into hat box. Then you would also need at least two more of them for back up and sensors as well. That stuff together might weigh as much as a truck driver!
I can not tell if you are being intentionally stupid or not. There is no such thing as unintentional first degree murder. Unintentional bait and switch is called "We ran out of that."
How do they let people with no skills in logic on this site?
Yes. I am sure that having their store shut down for many months cost them nothing. Again. There are some really good reasons to not like Sony. No need to be an idiot though.
Since I am not posting anonymously I think you can take a look at my posting history or even my OP on this issue to see that I have problems with what Sony did. But when idiots attack someone with stupidity it ends up making the think you are attacking look better. So attack Sony all you want. Call them idiots for removing other OS so that the geeks spent their time hacking the system. Tell people they reacted with stupidity and with no care for their current customers who were using other OS. Do something fucking useful. When you call them liars or accuse them of "Bait and Switch" or say that they engaged in false advertising some person will look at it and think. "That is not what Bait and Switch is.". Then they will decide that all of your dislike for said corp is unjustified and move on. Of course there are the idiots as well. those who will just believe what you say with no real thought and move on. That of course is the same reaction that the big corps count on for spreading their FUD. So since that is what you are doing you are obviously a shill for a large corporation. One that must hate Sony. So... Microsoft or Nintendo? See we can all run around and call people shills.
My original post pointed out that Sony was stupid in their reaction. But. The devices they advertised as having other OS had it. Sony while advertising it had no intention of removing it. That makes it not a lie.
Bait and Switch.
The intention of the bait-and-switch is to encourage purchases of substituted goods, making consumers satisfied with the available stock offered, as an alternative to a disappointment or inconvenience of acquiring no goods (or bait) at all, and reckoning on a seemingly partial recovery of sunk costs expended trying to obtain the bait. It suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin.
So how does this jive with what Sony did?
It does not. Sony did stupid things that pissed off many people. They did not though engage in false advertisiing, bait and switch or lying.
What happened was very detrimental to Sony. They pissed off the geeks. The geeks that did not bother hacking the console cause they had Yellow Dog Linux to play with. Then someone showed how they could get out of the sandbox. Sony panicked and removed Other OS. They Geeks hacked the console harder. Sony came down on the geek. The hackers came down on Sony and shut down online for months.
They delivered on their advertising. Then they sold you the unit promised. Not false advertising and not bait and switch.
Try going back and reading my post. If you do not trust me then go back and look up the history of it yourself.
Sony was stupid and overreacted. But they did not lie, it was not bait and switch (By any interpretation I can think of) and it ws not false advertising.
How is that not a bait and switch? Because they didn't plan to do it ahead of time?
Exactly. Bait and Switch is intentional. That is the whole point of bait and switch. It is to get the buyer to commit to something you have no intention of actually delivering. So that you can sell them something else. Sorry. I though you coming from a place of understanding the terms you were using. Guess I was wrong.
Honesty is tough when people are mad. But I can try and help you out. Sony gave us other OS. It was geek awesome. Sony was happy we had it. Then one day some geeky fun guy found a way to bypass Sonys security using other OS. Sony like many big corps with big managers and little brains panicked. So they made the decision to remove other OS to make their system "Safe" again. This made many geeky people angry. They then stopped playing with other OS and broke the security of the PS3 anyway.
So. While Sony acted stupidly, anyone with any honesty that followed what happened knows that it was neither a lie nor was it "Bait and Switch".
Now that you have the facts. (I am assuming that you are a semi honest person and did not have them before this.) You can see the truth.
So you would have choosed the XBox 360 instead? Or would you have held out as the pro gamer you are for the Wii? The other OS thing was shitty. I agree. It was not a lie though and I still would have picked up the PS3 had I knew about this ahead of time.
I always wondered how stupid a person would have to be to think that one side of the government loves them more than the other. Can you please post your IQ?
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It is not loss of future income when all your sales stop.
If we lay you off of your useless job and you stop receiving a paycheck the lay off costs you money.
On top of that you are an idiot or a fool or a troll. Communication ceased.
Again. Direct costs $171 million.
You can keep ignoring that to make your point but it does not make it true.
So again.
what is you definition of
so not a dime off Sony's pockets
that does not qualify as a total and complete untruth?
So please don't go thinking it's one picture taken by a camera that has a 1 giga pixel sensor on it.
Don't worry, anyone who got to the second sentence in the summary knows that.
So .... At least 30% of Slashdot?
So. You have never had a business. You know nothing about business.
Nothing.
When the Store was shut down for months on end that was not "Future Money" they were losing. (Yes. LOSING)
When a tornado hits you store you not only lose money from the damage and products lost but also YOU LOSE THE MONEY you would be making while you are shut down. Some insurances cover this as YOU ARE LOSING MONEY.
Every business takes this into account. Money lost do to lost sales during renovations. Even when the store stays open but loses business do to customers not wanting to deal with it. These are all loses.
Also future customer losses are very real.
Open a store. After each sale to a customer tell them to "Fuck off".
You still get the sale. All you will lose is "Future Customers". Since this is not a "Real Loss" your business should do fine. Right?
I did not realize that I stated equality between what happened to the customers and what happened to Sony.
I only stated that they lost a lot of money and pissed off their customers. Since though I have to be seen by you as an apologist for Sony you can throw whatever meaning you like to feel better about yourself.
Ummm. Yes.
Like every business does.
You think that the Sony store being shut down for months on end cost ... Your words here... "Not a Dime."
Not a dime in lost sales from the store that did not work.
Not a dime in lost sales on consoles during the time that none of them could go online.
Not a dime in future sales from the massive number of people they pissed off.
Either you are a tool for Microsoft or an idiot. I no longer care to find out which.
They had cameras that could be hidden in a walking stick in the 30s and 40s?
and
How well did the GPS technology work from balloons?
Ok then. Discussing things with you is useless. ...
You are so filled with blinding hate that you respond to a post that states
Again. There are some really good reasons to not like Sony.
as defending them.
I am sure you want to not be a blind fool. You just can not see a way out.
Hmm.
How exactly would you design a autonomous vehicle that can not see what comes into contact with it?
I ask how You would do it because I do not know anyone else that would.
Yup. Because there is no way a computer can take into consideration wind, drag, traction, weight, speed, available torque, current momentum and also keep track of obstacles and get to where it wants to go. A computer powerful enough to handle that kind of stuff would not be able to fit into hat box. Then you would also need at least two more of them for back up and sensors as well.
That stuff together might weigh as much as a truck driver!
I can not tell if you are being intentionally stupid or not.
There is no such thing as unintentional first degree murder.
Unintentional bait and switch is called "We ran out of that."
How do they let people with no skills in logic on this site?
Yes. I am sure that having their store shut down for many months cost them nothing.
Again. There are some really good reasons to not like Sony.
No need to be an idiot though.
Since I am not posting anonymously I think you can take a look at my posting history or even my OP on this issue to see that I have problems with what Sony did. ... Microsoft or Nintendo?
But when idiots attack someone with stupidity it ends up making the think you are attacking look better.
So attack Sony all you want. Call them idiots for removing other OS so that the geeks spent their time hacking the system.
Tell people they reacted with stupidity and with no care for their current customers who were using other OS.
Do something fucking useful.
When you call them liars or accuse them of "Bait and Switch" or say that they engaged in false advertising some person will look at it and think. "That is not what Bait and Switch is.". Then they will decide that all of your dislike for said corp is unjustified and move on.
Of course there are the idiots as well. those who will just believe what you say with no real thought and move on. That of course is the same reaction that the big corps count on for spreading their FUD.
So since that is what you are doing you are obviously a shill for a large corporation. One that must hate Sony. So
See we can all run around and call people shills.
My original post pointed out that Sony was stupid in their reaction.
But.
The devices they advertised as having other OS had it.
Sony while advertising it had no intention of removing it.
That makes it not a lie.
Bait and Switch.
The intention of the bait-and-switch is to encourage purchases of substituted goods, making consumers satisfied with the available stock offered, as an alternative to a disappointment or inconvenience of acquiring no goods (or bait) at all, and reckoning on a seemingly partial recovery of sunk costs expended trying to obtain the bait. It suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin.
So how does this jive with what Sony did?
It does not. Sony did stupid things that pissed off many people. They did not though engage in false advertisiing, bait and switch or lying.
What happened was very detrimental to Sony.
They pissed off the geeks. The geeks that did not bother hacking the console cause they had Yellow Dog Linux to play with.
Then someone showed how they could get out of the sandbox. Sony panicked and removed Other OS.
They Geeks hacked the console harder. Sony came down on the geek. The hackers came down on Sony and shut down online for months.
That is false advertising AND a bait and switch.
They delivered on their advertising. Then they sold you the unit promised.
Not false advertising and not bait and switch.
Try going back and reading my post. If you do not trust me then go back and look up the history of it yourself.
Sony was stupid and overreacted. But they did not lie, it was not bait and switch (By any interpretation I can think of) and it ws not false advertising.
How is that not a bait and switch? Because they didn't plan to do it ahead of time?
Exactly. Bait and Switch is intentional. That is the whole point of bait and switch. It is to get the buyer to commit to something you have no intention of actually delivering. So that you can sell them something else.
Sorry. I though you coming from a place of understanding the terms you were using. Guess I was wrong.
Honesty is tough when people are mad.
But I can try and help you out.
Sony gave us other OS. It was geek awesome.
Sony was happy we had it. Then one day some geeky fun guy found a way to bypass Sonys security using other OS.
Sony like many big corps with big managers and little brains panicked. So they made the decision to remove other OS to make their system "Safe" again.
This made many geeky people angry. They then stopped playing with other OS and broke the security of the PS3 anyway.
So. While Sony acted stupidly, anyone with any honesty that followed what happened knows that it was neither a lie nor was it "Bait and Switch".
Now that you have the facts. (I am assuming that you are a semi honest person and did not have them before this.) You can see the truth.
So you would have choosed the XBox 360 instead?
Or would you have held out as the pro gamer you are for the Wii?
The other OS thing was shitty. I agree. It was not a lie though and I still would have picked up the PS3 had I knew about this ahead of time.
Theirs. For releasing such a horrible thing.
Open your eyes,
And remember. Liberals are never wrong.
Those black people at Tea Party events are hired to be there so that they do not look racist.
I always wondered how stupid a person would have to be to think that one side of the government loves them more than the other.
Can you please post your IQ?