I understand you did not directly address it again. What you did was ignore the blatant lie in your post that was pointed out and then tried to say I was just being pedantic. You keep moving the target I will keep hitting it. You can just say it was pedantic. My belief though is that he thinks exactly that way.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
To argue against a statement like that is in no way pedantic either. When put together with your previous lie that you ignored and then changed up your attack from "Strawman" to "Pedantic". You strawman accusation was baseless at best as is your calling it pedantic. Baseless at best when taken alone. Taken as a group of posts I would go so far as to say that you are just attacking. That you know your attacks are wrong but are doing them anyway. What will you call my statement now. You have done "Strawman" and "Pedantic". I think that next you should go right to calling me a racist, homophobic God freak.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
My argument attacking that statement is in no way a "Strawman argument". You can just say that it is. In some peoples heads that will make it truth. Congratulations on converting the stupid. Where ever that statement seems to be coming from to you. It still gives you absolutely no right to lie. So again. No strawman argument was presented in spite of your statement. Since this last post still seems to slide right past that point I will just assume now that the original lie you stated is something that you are comfortable with.
Sorry about the spelling. At least it gave you something to attack. Katrina: Federal governments are slow. The Katrina problem said a lot about the people of the area. It gave very little new information on how governments react. That said, We are still the worlds leader when it comes to giving. Let me state that again. The United States of America stands as a beacon unto the world on how to give to others. Now. All other countries can step up or STFU.
I do not think that you have any idea what evil is.
Its definition is up to the individual to decide.
That said, you seem to be creating a straw man, considering that I don't see anyone saying, "Everything the US does is bad and corrupt." in a literal manner.
It is not a straw man. Hatta posted.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
No strawman here. The US justice system is not evil. The US is not evil. It is not in my opinion even evil for someone to attempt to use a strawman twist on me to invalidate my point. It is disingenuous. Not evil though.
Nevermind. You sir are correct. The US justice system is "Evil". No other word describes it quite so accurately. Evil. Not mostly good with some misguided and bad spots, Evil. It is not one of the best justice systems in the world even when it gets some things really fucked up. It is Evil.
I do not think that you have any idea what evil is.
I thought I had put into the post a tiny bit of the greatness that has come from the US. Funny how after reading the post that there is a part of your brain that actively blocks you from seeing anything good about the US.
His line is that the very fact that DARPA gives any money to the organization that they must be abandoned. Hackerspace is doing nothing wrong. His problem is that there is some funding from DARPA coming in. If that is his line then he needs to get off the internet.
Yes. You are correct sir. The US is in fact the most evil nation to ever curse the earth with its existence. North Korea, China, Old Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt Now, Frances Sharia law areas and many others are all much better. When the US did do good things it was always with evil intentions or by mistake. Let all of Europe, the Middle East and Africa start speaking German. All of Asia can speak Japanese. The fact that we pour more money into the US hating UN than any other nation, that the US revamped medicine, The US constitution, Nuclear energy. How about this, Those fucking nations that have led the world in freedom, technology and charity please stand and tell the US what fuck heads they are. Then when a disaster hits yell at us some more about how are help is flowing in too slow. Fuck heads.
It is good to be a conservative. The problem comes when conservatives or liberals are given powers to control your life. Fix the problem and quit hating people because they do not believe what you do. The problem is that the federal government has extended their powers to your bedroom. Who gives a fuck what they think as long as they can not do shit about it. Gay marriage. Would never had been a problem had the government stayed out of marriage in the first place. Had marriage stayed as something between two people, their church and God it would have been safe. Once the government gets involved... Fucked.
Then you are looking at people who do not believe in the constitution. I do not want a non constitutional president. The US constitution expressly forbid much of what the federal government is today doing. Has been doing for decades. The problem is the stupid fucking judges that gave the US complete control over everything under the guise of the commerce clause. Every one of those judges should be dug up from their graves and be defiled before the nation.
The Tea party does not give a shit about republicans. They want small government, constitutional, conservatives. Of course the lefties in the group will call small government "anarchy" and constitutional "weird idea people" and conservative "Clinging to God and Guns out of fear".
So tell him to get off the Internet, stop using GPS, Microwave ovens, and just about everything else that makes life easy. He is not standing up for his principals At least not in most other areas of his life. He is really just throwing a fit and going home. So he can have fun sitting at home and bitching about DARPA while using tons of stuff that we only have because of them..
It is true for life saving. Broke or not our system will do its best to save your life. Giving you a better life or making you live longer is not the responsibility of others to pay for you.
That is just not true. I was riding my Goldwing back from a day at work where I got called in on a Sunday to get things running again. I was out riding in the morning so I came to work on my bike. On the way home a guy turned left in front of me. Hit him doing about 40. he took off. Wrecked the bike but I got out of it with a decent chunk of skin missing and massive bruising on my right side. Nothing broken. Got taken to a trauma center and got the full work up to make sure I was not going to die of internal injuries. Spent the night as well. Bill came couple of days ago. Almost $24,000. Expensive. Massively so. Though I did get great care. The medical system in the US is top notch. Your view of the insurance industry may differ but the medical system itself while expensive as all hell is fast, responsive and can bring massive amounts of care to the critically wounded very fast. Not just can it offer high quality care but in emergencies it does. They do not ask how you are going to pay till after they save your life. Luckily we found the guy a few days after the accident. Called the PD and let them know where he lived. So I will not have to pay the bill. But even if I did have to pay. I would rather be in debit than dead.
Where ever you fall on the bell curve does not matter. If I want a scale that is accurate to 1/1000th of a gram for measuring flour then I should be able to buy one without government agencies drilling into my life. If I want cold medication I should not have to remember to bring my ID. At a certain point people have to tell their governments to "fuck right off". When we do not we lose our rights and our freedoms.
Yes, it absolutely does mean that. Nowhere will you find any definition of free speech that says "oh, but it's just for criticizing government".
You post...
Um, actually, you do. In the US Bill Of Rights the 1st amendment specifically says the government shall not abridge the rights of people to print, say, sing, paint, or dance anything they say about the government.
I follow with a post showing that the Amendment is not restricted to only speech about government. It is all in the posts. Read them.
It was the GP who stated that the first amendment was a protection of free speech against the government. Not me. I quoted the amendment to show that in fact the government part of the amendment was just an "and". Try starting over and reading the GGP, GP and P. Do it slowly and then you will see where you went wrong.
It was the GP who stated that it was only about the government. I quoted the actual amendment to show that mention of the government is just an "and". I pointed out rather clearly that free speech forbids the congress from making laws against free speech period.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The Government part has no relation to the abridging the freedom of speech part. If you read it you will see that it is very plain in its intent.
So if they can charge more for insuring dipshits does that mean that responsible young adults can get preferred rates? If so. How exactly is it a bad thing for companies to charge people who are a higher risk more money?
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I understand you did not directly address it again.
What you did was ignore the blatant lie in your post that was pointed out and then tried to say I was just being pedantic.
You keep moving the target I will keep hitting it.
You can just say it was pedantic. My belief though is that he thinks exactly that way.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
To argue against a statement like that is in no way pedantic either.
When put together with your previous lie that you ignored and then changed up your attack from "Strawman" to "Pedantic".
You strawman accusation was baseless at best as is your calling it pedantic.
Baseless at best when taken alone. Taken as a group of posts I would go so far as to say that you are just attacking. That you know your attacks are wrong but are doing them anyway.
What will you call my statement now. You have done "Strawman" and "Pedantic". I think that next you should go right to calling me a racist, homophobic God freak.
That statement was a statement.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
My argument attacking that statement is in no way a "Strawman argument".
You can just say that it is. In some peoples heads that will make it truth. Congratulations on converting the stupid.
Where ever that statement seems to be coming from to you. It still gives you absolutely no right to lie.
So again.
No strawman argument was presented in spite of your statement.
Since this last post still seems to slide right past that point I will just assume now that the original lie you stated is something that you are comfortable with.
Sorry about the spelling. At least it gave you something to attack.
Katrina: Federal governments are slow. The Katrina problem said a lot about the people of the area. It gave very little new information on how governments react.
That said, We are still the worlds leader when it comes to giving. Let me state that again.
The United States of America stands as a beacon unto the world on how to give to others.
Now. All other countries can step up or STFU.
I do not think that you have any idea what evil is.
Its definition is up to the individual to decide.
That said, you seem to be creating a straw man, considering that I don't see anyone saying, "Everything the US does is bad and corrupt." in a literal manner.
It is not a straw man.
Hatta posted.
Jesus fucking christ the US government and its excuse for a "justice" system is evil. Evil fucking pieces of shit.
No strawman here. The US justice system is not evil. The US is not evil.
It is not in my opinion even evil for someone to attempt to use a strawman twist on me to invalidate my point.
It is disingenuous. Not evil though.
Nevermind. You sir are correct.
The US justice system is "Evil".
No other word describes it quite so accurately. Evil.
Not mostly good with some misguided and bad spots, Evil.
It is not one of the best justice systems in the world even when it gets some things really fucked up. It is Evil.
I do not think that you have any idea what evil is.
I thought I had put into the post a tiny bit of the greatness that has come from the US.
Funny how after reading the post that there is a part of your brain that actively blocks you from seeing anything good about the US.
His line is that the very fact that DARPA gives any money to the organization that they must be abandoned.
Hackerspace is doing nothing wrong. His problem is that there is some funding from DARPA coming in.
If that is his line then he needs to get off the internet.
Yes.
You are correct sir. The US is in fact the most evil nation to ever curse the earth with its existence.
North Korea, China, Old Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt Now, Frances Sharia law areas and many others are all much better.
When the US did do good things it was always with evil intentions or by mistake.
Let all of Europe, the Middle East and Africa start speaking German. All of Asia can speak Japanese.
The fact that we pour more money into the US hating UN than any other nation, that the US revamped medicine, The US constitution, Nuclear energy.
How about this, Those fucking nations that have led the world in freedom, technology and charity please stand and tell the US what fuck heads they are.
Then when a disaster hits yell at us some more about how are help is flowing in too slow. Fuck heads.
It is good to be a conservative. ... Fucked.
The problem comes when conservatives or liberals are given powers to control your life.
Fix the problem and quit hating people because they do not believe what you do.
The problem is that the federal government has extended their powers to your bedroom.
Who gives a fuck what they think as long as they can not do shit about it.
Gay marriage. Would never had been a problem had the government stayed out of marriage in the first place.
Had marriage stayed as something between two people, their church and God it would have been safe.
Once the government gets involved
Then you are looking at people who do not believe in the constitution.
I do not want a non constitutional president.
The US constitution expressly forbid much of what the federal government is today doing. Has been doing for decades.
The problem is the stupid fucking judges that gave the US complete control over everything under the guise of the commerce clause.
Every one of those judges should be dug up from their graves and be defiled before the nation.
The Tea party does not give a shit about republicans.
They want small government, constitutional, conservatives.
Of course the lefties in the group will call small government "anarchy" and constitutional "weird idea people" and conservative "Clinging to God and Guns out of fear".
The point is he is not shunning those things. Just this one. It is hypocritical.
It is though a little hypocritical to not want to associate with DARPA and letting everyone know about it using DARPA tech.
So tell him to get off the Internet, stop using GPS, Microwave ovens, and just about everything else that makes life easy.
He is not standing up for his principals At least not in most other areas of his life. He is really just throwing a fit and going home.
So he can have fun sitting at home and bitching about DARPA while using tons of stuff that we only have because of them..
It is true for life saving. Broke or not our system will do its best to save your life. Giving you a better life or making you live longer is not the responsibility of others to pay for you.
I still got the care. I got it before anyone asked how I would pay. The medical system worked.
That is just not true.
I was riding my Goldwing back from a day at work where I got called in on a Sunday to get things running again.
I was out riding in the morning so I came to work on my bike.
On the way home a guy turned left in front of me. Hit him doing about 40. he took off. Wrecked the bike but I got out of it with a decent chunk of skin missing and massive bruising on my right side. Nothing broken. Got taken to a trauma center and got the full work up to make sure I was not going to die of internal injuries. Spent the night as well.
Bill came couple of days ago. Almost $24,000. Expensive. Massively so.
Though I did get great care. The medical system in the US is top notch. Your view of the insurance industry may differ but the medical system itself while expensive as all hell is fast, responsive and can bring massive amounts of care to the critically wounded very fast. Not just can it offer high quality care but in emergencies it does. They do not ask how you are going to pay till after they save your life.
Luckily we found the guy a few days after the accident. Called the PD and let them know where he lived. So I will not have to pay the bill. But even if I did have to pay. I would rather be in debit than dead.
Where ever you fall on the bell curve does not matter. If I want a scale that is accurate to 1/1000th of a gram for measuring flour then I should be able to buy one without government agencies drilling into my life. If I want cold medication I should not have to remember to bring my ID. At a certain point people have to tell their governments to "fuck right off". When we do not we lose our rights and our freedoms.
AC GGP posted...
Yes, it absolutely does mean that. Nowhere will you find any definition of free speech that says "oh, but it's just for criticizing government".
You post ...
Um, actually, you do. In the US Bill Of Rights the 1st amendment specifically says the government shall not abridge the rights of people to print, say, sing, paint, or dance anything they say about the government.
I follow with a post showing that the Amendment is not restricted to only speech about government.
It is all in the posts. Read them.
It was the GP who stated that the first amendment was a protection of free speech against the government. Not me. I quoted the amendment to show that in fact the government part of the amendment was just an "and".
Try starting over and reading the GGP, GP and P. Do it slowly and then you will see where you went wrong.
It was the GP who stated that it was only about the government. I quoted the actual amendment to show that mention of the government is just an "and".
I pointed out rather clearly that free speech forbids the congress from making laws against free speech period.
There is no way you can ready the first amendment and get that the speech part is only about speech concerning the government. No way.
I once heard someone describe another person as "Overly stabby".
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The Government part has no relation to the abridging the freedom of speech part.
If you read it you will see that it is very plain in its intent.
So if they can charge more for insuring dipshits does that mean that responsible young adults can get preferred rates?
If so. How exactly is it a bad thing for companies to charge people who are a higher risk more money?