> > "The Catholic position is that human dignity and the value of human life are unconditional."
Here, let me fix that for you " human dignity is unconditional - unless you're a heretic" - that really explains the Inquisition.
Also, seems to me that the Catholic position is in direct contradiction to the bible - the flood, the 7 plagues, genocide, slavery - hey, tell us how being a slave, or even owning slaves, is congruent with human dignity. And how torture is okay for the church. And how its all right for god to condemn people to starvation, disease, hell, etc because he refuses to lift a finger.
>>"You'll get your chance to meet the one from this universe, too. Just give it time...;)"
I'd still spit in his eye and tell him to FOAD. Of course, that would demonstrate that god can't control everything, and as such, isn't god. Awwwm, hell!!! (they have better parties down there anyway...:-)
>>"Plus that stupid lander couldn't even land 10 degrees off the normal or it would crash, but humans tend to be able to move their legs around to compensate for that kind of thing. "
Nobody ever broke a leg when parachute jumping - they all did it when hitting the ground | tree | whatever.
If you read the article, Tannenbaum reminds everyone of how Microsoft paid Ken Brown to write a book accusing Linus of stealing the Minix microkernel. FTFA:
In the unlikely event that anyone missed it, a couple of years ago Microsoft paid a guy named Ken Brown to write a book saying Linus stole Linux from my MINIX 1 system. I refuted that accusation pretty strongly to clear Linus' good name. I may not entirely agree with the Linux design, but Linux is his baby, not my baby, and I was pretty unhappy when Brown said he plagiarized it from me.
And now, cue thousands of replies from people who have personally created microkernels and have sensible observations to make on their validity as a base for an OS...
I agree that some of the beliefs are just ridiculous... and you rightly point it out...
>>we where created as his image? and all the bad we do? isnt it that we are the "same" as him, then he can be "bad" too?
I mean, why would god need a bellybutton? come to thing of it, why would god need teeth? after all, why would god need to eat? does god need to take a dump once in a while? I guess not - after all, "nothing escapes god."
"That was funny, but atheists do kill people for having different beliefs too: Anarchists, Nazis, Soviets, Maoists..."
So atheists are killing anarchists, nazis, soviets, and maoists???;-)
Wasn't one of the goals of many of the soldiers in WW2 to "kill a whole bunch of nazis"? I don't think it was primarily athiests who were in on the hunt.
Also, nazis were just as guilty of holding extreme conservative/religious positions - they believed that they were the chosen race, and that it was their destiny to rule the world. There are a lot of parallels with some of the fundies' readings of the end-times of the bible...
Maoists? Aren't all those "dirty red ChiComs" now holding trillions of dollars of US currency? Let me check my little red book... Chairman Mao say "Sell western paper tiger useless cheap junk and he will love you good time long time."
"In Soviet Russia, you F*CK the people BEFORE you kill them. Otherwise you're just a f*cking necrophiliac."
Anarchists? This is slashdot... this is the web... this isn't anarchy - if you want REAL anarchy, check out usenet!
That's something that really, really annoys me. People lowercasing the word 'god' when using it as a proper noun. It's not big and it's not clever, it's just pisspoor grammar. If you want to say 'I am the god of hellfire and I bring you...', then 'god' is a generic noun and takes a small g. If you want to say 'Well, thank God for that' then 'god' is a proper noun, a name used for a specific god, and it takes a big G. It's just good English, and messing about with it just to piss off the Christians is silly and makes us all look bad.
You're totally in the wrong on this one. The original "christian" bible didn't refer to god in mixed case - lowercase letters hadn't been invented until well after Jesus' death. So there was never, in the original text, a way of differentiating usage by diferences in character case.
OR WOULD YOU RATHER I WRITE EVERYTHING IN UPPER_CASE_ONLY TO CONFORM WITH THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT PRACTICE?
Insisting on any form of capitalization of the word god is just another of those extreme (and unjustifiable from a historic context) conservative and religious mindsets the article talks about.
And I have yet to hear god complain about it. No voices in the head, no mystic appearances, no thunder and lightning. If he existed and was pissed off, he could always intervene and prevent me from posting using a lowercase g for his na&$(#^!!*((NO CARRIER
Quit whoring for karma points by regurgitating lame arguments. If someone illegally downloads their album, then it is one less album sale that would be made, resulting in less income for the band. You are effectively stealing money out of their pockets.
I have to agree with the original poster. Neither you nor the RIAA have any proof that 1 illegal download is 1 less legal sale made.
Counter-examples: People who download, then bought, and people who would never have bought but are willing to download.
Is this supposed to be funny? You thanking god for being an atheist?
[_] You must be one of those "extreme" people the article is warning about. Please stay online while the DHS traces your post to determine if it came from Iran ("we launch in 5 minutes") or the White House ("we're immune from prosecution"), or AIPIC (in which case, "where's my check?")
[_] Hey everybody - George W. Bush posts on slashdot!
[_] Imagine a boewulf cluster of extreme conservative and religious... oh, right - that's how we got into this mess in the first place.
And how much does the anti-virus program cost on your Mac? Though Macs users haven't had to worry about virus the past few years thanks to their obscurity, it may be a bit much to assume you won't need anti-virus for the next three years.
The reason Windows is so virus-prone has nothing to do with market share. For example, ActiveX is a major security hole - defective by design.
Other bugs, like depending on the extension of a file to determine its type, rather than actually looking at the first few bytes (like a unix "magic" file), hiding the real extensions when there are multiple dots in the filename, and other "features" are just bad design.
Then there are users like me - linux, bsd, and (when I get a chance - thanks for the setup dvds, sun!) solaris.
I won't be needing an antivirus for the next 3 years.
Charles Drew was a medical doctor and surgeon remembered as the inventor of the blood bank. He also established, and was the first director of, the blood bank of the American Red Cross. Although of African-American heritage in an age of rampant racial discrimination, Drew managed to achieve an extremely high level of education (BA from Amherst in 1926, MD and Master of Surgery from McGill University in Montreal 1933, and a Doctor of Science in Medicine from Columbia University in 1940) and to become a well-respected surgeon and professor.
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Ironically, when Drew himself was critically injured in a car accident in 1950 he was refused admittance to the closest hospital because of his race. By the time he arrived at the more distant hospital for blacks he had lost so much blood that a transfusion was of no avail.
The licensing for the free version says you can't use it within any organization, including non-profits. That lets out connecting your laptop at work or at school. Sure, you can use it at home, or a friends' place, but that's about it.
Besides, like I pointed out, there are better solutions than spending $900.00 on a VistaME laptop. The MacBook, at $1,019.00, is cheaper in the long run, unless you value your time at $0.00.
Try reading what you quoted. Maybe you need more coffee.
From the AVG license:
AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition is for private, non-commercial, single computer use only. The use of AVG Free within any organization (including non-profit organizations) or for commercial purposes is strictly prohibited.
So you can use it on a laptop, mayhap you shouldn't comment on things you don't understand.
Last I looked, schools fall under that "any organization" exclusion. So does bringing your laptop to work - both the "any organization" and "commercial" exclusions.
Businesses, being for-profit organizations, fall within the "any organization" exclusion; that also means not being licensed to use it in restaurants in conjunction with their wifi, etc.
In other words, its for home use only, which is what I pointed out the license already said.
As I point out here, AVG is not free if you use it outside the home, on a network, or in business. 4 years license for their AVG Internet Security (they sell it in 2-year increments, so 3 years means ypu have to pay for 4) is $140.00. $900.00 pc + $140.00 = $1,040.00
Also, I provided a like where you can get a MacBook for $1,019.
The mac is cheaper than the pc if you're going to keep it for more than 2 years, and you intend to network it (and who doesn't network their laptop) or you intend to use it outside the home (and who doesn't bring their laptop outside the home, and connect to wireless networks).
You must not use the program in a network or on more than one computer. This particular software version is distributed free of charge, therefore, the applicable license is only granted for home use thereof. In case of this free version, the program is not subject to any guarantees, and the user has no right to any technical support whatsoever.
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> > "The Catholic position is that human dignity and the value of human life are unconditional."
Here, let me fix that for you " human dignity is unconditional - unless you're a heretic" - that really explains the Inquisition.
Also, seems to me that the Catholic position is in direct contradiction to the bible - the flood, the 7 plagues, genocide, slavery - hey, tell us how being a slave, or even owning slaves, is congruent with human dignity. And how torture is okay for the church. And how its all right for god to condemn people to starvation, disease, hell, etc because he refuses to lift a finger.
>>"You'll get your chance to meet the one from this universe, too. Just give it time... ;)"
I'd still spit in his eye and tell him to FOAD. Of course, that would demonstrate that god can't control everything, and as such, isn't god. Awwwm, hell!!! (they have better parties down there anyway ... :-)
" it's man interfering with the God-given natural order of conception."
So we shouldn't interfere with nature .... right ...
So cesarean sections are evil too ... tet the mother and child die instead ...
And forget medicine - pray instead. After all, why should people interfere with "god-given natural order"?
Natural order my arse! The bible is fairy tales and hate literature. Stoned any gays or lesbians lately?
So as far as they're concerned, test-tube babies are inconceivable ...
So if how they were conceived was wrong, then they should be in favour of aborting them ...
Cue all the "Oh no, abortion is wrong!" posts.
A former nazi party member shouldn't be throwing stones.
>>"Plus that stupid lander couldn't even land 10 degrees off the normal or it would crash, but humans tend to be able to move their legs around to compensate for that kind of thing. "
Nobody ever broke a leg when parachute jumping - they all did it when hitting the ground | tree | whatever.
If you read the article, Tannenbaum reminds everyone of how Microsoft paid Ken Brown to write a book accusing Linus of stealing the Minix microkernel. FTFA:
joke
O <- your head
I agree that some of the beliefs are just ridiculous ... and you rightly point it out ...
>>we where created as his image? and all the bad we do? isnt it that we are the "same" as him, then he can be "bad" too?
I mean, why would god need a bellybutton? come to thing of it, why would god need teeth? after all, why would god need to eat? does god need to take a dump once in a while? I guess not - after all, "nothing escapes god."
Gee, someone never told k. d. lang., brian d foy, the band dissapear fear, e e cummings publisher, etc.
Then there's the iPod, iMac, iBook, eMachines ...
Names of people or things do not necessarily take a capital letter.
So atheists are killing anarchists, nazis, soviets, and maoists??? ;-)
Wasn't one of the goals of many of the soldiers in WW2 to "kill a whole bunch of nazis"? I don't think it was primarily athiests who were in on the hunt.
Also, nazis were just as guilty of holding extreme conservative/religious positions - they believed that they were the chosen race, and that it was their destiny to rule the world. There are a lot of parallels with some of the fundies' readings of the end-times of the bible ...
Maoists? Aren't all those "dirty red ChiComs" now holding trillions of dollars of US currency? Let me check my little red book ... Chairman Mao say "Sell western paper tiger useless cheap junk and he will love you good time long time."
"In Soviet Russia, you F*CK the people BEFORE you kill them. Otherwise you're just a f*cking necrophiliac."
Anarchists? This is slashdot ... this is the web ... this isn't anarchy - if you want REAL anarchy, check out usenet!
You're totally in the wrong on this one. The original "christian" bible didn't refer to god in mixed case - lowercase letters hadn't been invented until well after Jesus' death. So there was never, in the original text, a way of differentiating usage by diferences in character case.
OR WOULD YOU RATHER I WRITE EVERYTHING IN UPPER_CASE_ONLY TO CONFORM WITH THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT PRACTICE?
Insisting on any form of capitalization of the word god is just another of those extreme (and unjustifiable from a historic context) conservative and religious mindsets the article talks about.
And I have yet to hear god complain about it. No voices in the head, no mystic appearances, no thunder and lightning. If he existed and was pissed off, he could always intervene and prevent me from posting using a lowercase g for his na&$(#^!!*((NO CARRIER
I have to agree with the original poster. Neither you nor the RIAA have any proof that 1 illegal download is 1 less legal sale made.
Counter-examples: People who download, then bought, and people who would never have bought but are willing to download.
"What's the world coming to when the religious right have a better sense of humor about themselves than the lefty atheists"
You can have my mouse when you pry it from my cold dead left hand!
Is this supposed to be funny? You thanking god for being an atheist?
[_] You must be one of those "extreme" people the article is warning about. Please stay online while the DHS traces your post to determine if it came from Iran ("we launch in 5 minutes") or the White House ("we're immune from prosecution"), or AIPIC (in which case, "where's my check?")
[_] Hey everybody - George W. Bush posts on slashdot!
[_] Imagine a boewulf cluster of extreme conservative and religious ... oh, right - that's how we got into this mess in the first place.
All I can say is, thank god I'm an atheist!
Other bugs, like depending on the extension of a file to determine its type, rather than actually looking at the first few bytes (like a unix "magic" file), hiding the real extensions when there are multiple dots in the filename, and other "features" are just bad design.
Then there are users like me - linux, bsd, and (when I get a chance - thanks for the setup dvds, sun!) solaris.
I won't be needing an antivirus for the next 3 years.
http://www.nndb.com/people/391/000032295/
The licensing for the free version says you can't use it within any organization, including non-profits. That lets out connecting your laptop at work or at school. Sure, you can use it at home, or a friends' place, but that's about it.
Besides, like I pointed out, there are better solutions than spending $900.00 on a VistaME laptop. The MacBook, at $1,019.00, is cheaper in the long run, unless you value your time at $0.00.
Try reading what you quoted. Maybe you need more coffee.
Last I looked, schools fall under that "any organization" exclusion. So does bringing your laptop to work - both the "any organization" and "commercial" exclusions.
Businesses, being for-profit organizations, fall within the "any organization" exclusion; that also means not being licensed to use it in restaurants in conjunction with their wifi, etc.
In other words, its for home use only, which is what I pointed out the license already said.
"requiring permits for air monitoring devices
Customer in restaurant: This steak smells delicious.
Cop: You got a permit for that nose, mister?
Sure I did - look at the title: vista ultra-lite - rm /dev/sda1/*
That won't work in Windows, but it will work great on Windows :-)
Actually, "fdisk /dev/sda, d, 1, w, q" works even better.
We all know step 2 - reboot.
As I point out here, AVG is not free if you use it outside the home, on a network, or in business. 4 years license for their AVG Internet Security (they sell it in 2-year increments, so 3 years means ypu have to pay for 4) is $140.00. $900.00 pc + $140.00 = $1,040.00
Also, I provided a like where you can get a MacBook for $1,019.
The mac is cheaper than the pc if you're going to keep it for more than 2 years, and you intend to network it (and who doesn't network their laptop) or you intend to use it outside the home (and who doesn't bring their laptop outside the home, and connect to wireless networks).
From the AVG free version license: http://free.grisoft.com/doc/98/us/frt/0
So: http://www2.grisoft.com/doc/buy/us/crp/0 2 years AVG Antivirus: $39
- or -
2 years AVG Internet Security: $70
So, 3 years of AVG Internet security is another $140.00. - total is $1,040.00
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/families/new_promo~dp~7349100~family~macbook~promo~1.asp Apple MacBook: $1,019.00
The Apple is cheaper over 3 or more years.