It don't think of Goonswarm as one coordinated acting entity, I just hold em all responsible, that's different. Whatever you say about not beeing involved, you flag yourself as one of them, that makes you involved.
The only ability of any Goon was ever that they are able to reason quite good, as seen in your post. Still, eloquent words don't make it truth. Its not that CPP held all the keys and you had to go public, you did not like what they decided and went for them, knowing there will be little to no consequences for you, as this is the internet.
But there might be some for us all, as I am quite sure alot of MMO companies are watching this SA vs CCP powerstruggle and will by whatever means try to avoid to get in a position where a large external community gets in a position to blow up their games reputiton just because they like to.
Anyway, this gonna be my last on this, enjoy playing Goons in Space while they still let you.
The only way left to 'act'? The arrogance of this speaks for itself. Having read your representatives for quite a while on the official EVE boards I'm not surprised that noone takes anything you folks say for truth without ALOT proof, including CCP.
And of course your leadership is the brain here, not the masses, but as the sa members follow their leaders they are fully responsible for this. Citing Hanlons Razor is no excuse for this, Goons are not stupid, most of you are very intelligent. And ruthless.
The worst of all is that you people have not even been affected by anything that came out of a batphone-call. You are fighting a fight for the sake of negativity. As it stands, you are the heroes of the envious, nothing more. Batphones did not make you loose EVE. Your own attitude did.
But what kinda attitude can be expected from people who used and distributed and icon set hack that replaced their leaders portrait with that of Adolf Hitler. Just go away.
So hard to get told to put your money where your mouth is, isn't it. Companies don't exist because players pay them their monthly fee. They exist and offer a service, which players choose to buy or not. That's different.
While this whole drama will cost them some subs it will also bring them some, as not everyone enjoys the climate caused by goonswarm. EVE lives on drama, but bringing the drama to places like this went too far.
What is absurd us a high-positioned company employee to actually urge his customers to quit. He actually shows people their bounds. Players seem to think these days that they own a game company by paying them a monthly fee. Political correctness is what holds back community managers of many other games to state something similar. Its quite refreshing to see some people are not yet overpolite. CCP is just like their game, they have some edges and that's more a pro than a con.
Aside from that, did you ever try to argue with people that have the somethingawful mindset?:P
Its been about time for all this to end. I do more than hope that the days of Goonswarm come to an end. I guess there is little chance for sa.com to vanish aswell. For me, personally, Goonswarm ruined EVE, as they brought Metagaming to a whole new level, and based on my personal ingame and forum experience with them I am quite sure the info about the smear campaign is the truth. Goons ever thrived to ruin things for others, by whatever means possible, in the name of 'fun'. They never even tried to get part of the EVE community, but stayed Goons. Its not surprising that they try to take EVE and CCP with them on their downfall. If they will be gone for good it might be time to subscribe EVE again.
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It don't think of Goonswarm as one coordinated acting entity, I just hold em all responsible, that's different. Whatever you say about not beeing involved, you flag yourself as one of them, that makes you involved.
The only ability of any Goon was ever that they are able to reason quite good, as seen in your post. Still, eloquent words don't make it truth. Its not that CPP held all the keys and you had to go public, you did not like what they decided and went for them, knowing there will be little to no consequences for you, as this is the internet.
But there might be some for us all, as I am quite sure alot of MMO companies are watching this SA vs CCP powerstruggle and will by whatever means try to avoid to get in a position where a large external community gets in a position to blow up their games reputiton just because they like to.
Anyway, this gonna be my last on this, enjoy playing Goons in Space while they still let you.
The only way left to 'act'? The arrogance of this speaks for itself. Having read your representatives for quite a while on the official EVE boards I'm not surprised that noone takes anything you folks say for truth without ALOT proof, including CCP.
And of course your leadership is the brain here, not the masses, but as the sa members follow their leaders they are fully responsible for this. Citing Hanlons Razor is no excuse for this, Goons are not stupid, most of you are very intelligent. And ruthless.
Tasty to see own writing taken out of context. Your point?
The worst of all is that you people have not even been affected by anything that came out of a batphone-call. You are fighting a fight for the sake of negativity. As it stands, you are the heroes of the envious, nothing more. Batphones did not make you loose EVE. Your own attitude did.
But what kinda attitude can be expected from people who used and distributed and icon set hack that replaced their leaders portrait with that of Adolf Hitler. Just go away.
So hard to get told to put your money where your mouth is, isn't it. Companies don't exist because players pay them their monthly fee. They exist and offer a service, which players choose to buy or not. That's different.
While this whole drama will cost them some subs it will also bring them some, as not everyone enjoys the climate caused by goonswarm. EVE lives on drama, but bringing the drama to places like this went too far.
Aside from that, did you ever try to argue with people that have the somethingawful mindset?
Its been about time for all this to end. I do more than hope that the days of Goonswarm come to an end. I guess there is little chance for sa.com to vanish aswell. For me, personally, Goonswarm ruined EVE, as they brought Metagaming to a whole new level, and based on my personal ingame and forum experience with them I am quite sure the info about the smear campaign is the truth. Goons ever thrived to ruin things for others, by whatever means possible, in the name of 'fun'. They never even tried to get part of the EVE community, but stayed Goons. Its not surprising that they try to take EVE and CCP with them on their downfall. If they will be gone for good it might be time to subscribe EVE again.