Gmail - charge the sender or sell the customer!
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Don't be too quick in telling your newsletter subscribers to move to Gmail, because while Google doesn't charge the sender on the inbound, they do however sell your customer out to the highest bidder. So, if you're sending a newsletter on custom auto-parts (hoping to possibly attract your reader to your website to purchase product) don't be surprised when Gmail hijacks your customer with a highly targeted ad from one of your competitors placed just to the right or your news letter copy.
Gmail Prediction - I'll tell you something Gmail will introduce someday, paid protection! - per email paid advertisement protection so your competitors ads can't bid on your customers. And I'm sure Google will optimize the fee by basing your protection fee based on the current market price of those bidding on the keywords within your message.
Ok, what about alerts? They are sent in bulk. And many of these companies could not function as competitively if every email cost them. How will putting a price on this help the user? Dealnews Fatwallet - those are great services, with great prices on great product. What about ebay alerts? Who pays for these? ebay? the auction holder? What about CraigsList? (Oh, sorry, spammers already forced to shut down their alert system. CL's response, turn on RSS - what a piece of crap! RSS bites compared to automatically having an email turn up in your inbox.)
Yes, what you're saying here is that SPAMMERS HAVE WON, and it's because simpletons can't out-think them! They've destroyed a highly valuable resource where much of its value coming from the fact it is free to feed as much information to your opt-in subscribers as they can handle. - The way it should be.
Therefore, I guess because we've turned over the keys for the kingdom to Big Business a creative solution, say one that would keep email free or put the customer in charge of who pays and who doesn't, is out of the question.
So, for all of you supporters I say - Good call - Keep up the good work and "think small" - more of the world will understand your position!
You said: If you don't pay, you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING NOW. - Oh sure, two phones are ringing a) the white list question line b) the Goodmail question line. Which phone gets answered first? Which problems gets more attention?
And, not to vector off here, but I suppose you might believe positions like Exxon diligently investing in renewable energy - and because they care about your health on top of it?
The problem is that one of things spammers "want" to do. Is create FUD - Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. That is, if they create enough FUD you don't trust your process (any process) and therefore constantly scan your SPAM folder (or in your idea case - your White List Request list) etc. Once they've accomplished FUD, in their mind, they win.
There is a great deal of spam every day that gets seen in the effort to ensure it's not valuable email, this is what is costing us all a fortune....
Ok, for those that don't "get" the author's example. Let's fast forward a few years - VoIP (Voice of Internet Phone Service) has become as dominant as email is today. In fact, most ISPs (your included) rolls VoIP into your Broad Band service. Let's say - $50/month, all you can surf and all you can call. But wait, the cost is so low that now everyone else has VoIP. Also, let's not forget to mention someone creates applications that allow you to Cc (and Bcc) Voicemails to multiple phones with a single click of the mouse. (These apps already exist.) So,,, given the cost advantages of this highly beneficial technology some are getting a few hundred (some thousands) Voicemails/day. (This is called - SPIT).
Now - go ahead, don't email your Doc, rather use your Docs number - Author, please continue.....
Sure, economics is the key to defeating spam but this is simply an Old School Tactic shoe-horned into current technology by old school minds.
In the old school, they want to control "you" so they can reap the rewards of the value of your attention.
If we take a step back and look at the web, where it came from and how it got to where it is today, we will find;
A) The best was all born of young innovative minds. Many of which were bought by old school thinkers. (and what happens!) AND B) The fact that email "was" free (and delivery just happened after you pushed Send), was the leading force that pulled email (and the web along with it) into the "killer app" arena.
So what we need is a young mind to understand what the public needs in terms of economic control and then use the Internet's infinite level of granular programmability to deliver this to the consumer.
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Don't be too quick in telling your newsletter subscribers to move to Gmail, because while Google doesn't charge the sender on the inbound, they do however sell your customer out to the highest bidder. So, if you're sending a newsletter on custom auto-parts (hoping to possibly attract your reader to your website to purchase product) don't be surprised when Gmail hijacks your customer with a highly targeted ad from one of your competitors placed just to the right or your news letter copy.
Gmail Prediction - I'll tell you something Gmail will introduce someday, paid protection! - per email paid advertisement protection so your competitors ads can't bid on your customers. And I'm sure Google will optimize the fee by basing your protection fee based on the current market price of those bidding on the keywords within your message.
That is exactly correct. If a payment for delivery is to be levied that action should be under the control of the email address "owner".
Ok, what about alerts? They are sent in bulk. And many of these companies could not function as competitively if every email cost them. How will putting a price on this help the user? Dealnews Fatwallet - those are great services, with great prices on great product. What about ebay alerts? Who pays for these? ebay? the auction holder? What about CraigsList? (Oh, sorry, spammers already forced to shut down their alert system. CL's response, turn on RSS - what a piece of crap! RSS bites compared to automatically having an email turn up in your inbox.)
Yes, what you're saying here is that SPAMMERS HAVE WON, and it's because simpletons can't out-think them! They've destroyed a highly valuable resource where much of its value coming from the fact it is free to feed as much information to your opt-in subscribers as they can handle. - The way it should be.
Therefore, I guess because we've turned over the keys for the kingdom to Big Business a creative solution, say one that would keep email free or put the customer in charge of who pays and who doesn't, is out of the question.
So, for all of you supporters I say - Good call - Keep up the good work and "think small" - more of the world will understand your position!
You said: If you don't pay, you get EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING NOW. - Oh sure, two phones are ringing a) the white list question line b) the Goodmail question line. Which phone gets answered first? Which problems gets more attention?
And, not to vector off here, but I suppose you might believe positions like Exxon diligently investing in renewable energy - and because they care about your health on top of it?
The problem is that one of things spammers "want" to do. Is create FUD - Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. That is, if they create enough FUD you don't trust your process (any process) and therefore constantly scan your SPAM folder (or in your idea case - your White List Request list) etc. Once they've accomplished FUD, in their mind, they win. There is a great deal of spam every day that gets seen in the effort to ensure it's not valuable email, this is what is costing us all a fortune....
Ok, for those that don't "get" the author's example. Let's fast forward a few years - VoIP (Voice of Internet Phone Service) has become as dominant as email is today. In fact, most ISPs (your included) rolls VoIP into your Broad Band service. Let's say - $50/month, all you can surf and all you can call. But wait, the cost is so low that now everyone else has VoIP. Also, let's not forget to mention someone creates applications that allow you to Cc (and Bcc) Voicemails to multiple phones with a single click of the mouse. (These apps already exist.) So,,, given the cost advantages of this highly beneficial technology some are getting a few hundred (some thousands) Voicemails/day. (This is called - SPIT).
Now - go ahead, don't email your Doc, rather use your Docs number - Author, please continue.....
Sure, economics is the key to defeating spam but this is simply an Old School Tactic shoe-horned into current technology by old school minds.
In the old school, they want to control "you" so they can reap the rewards of the value of your attention.
If we take a step back and look at the web, where it came from and how it got to where it is today, we will find;
A) The best was all born of young innovative minds. Many of which were bought by old school thinkers. (and what happens!)
AND
B) The fact that email "was" free (and delivery just happened after you pushed Send), was the leading force that pulled email (and the web along with it) into the "killer app" arena.
So what we need is a young mind to understand what the public needs in terms of economic control and then use the Internet's infinite level of granular programmability to deliver this to the consumer.