The user version of the Neo will be around $450 or so - still pricey - but I might be able to justify it. I'm still considering one of the iPhone clones (Cect P168 et al at $160 or so), despite some of their nastiness (including being nothing to do with Linux). Either way, I'd only make $5 of calls per month.
The libraries, hence the exception to allow linking with arbitrary programs.
But before you try and change the goal posts, the point you replied to was a reimplementation of GCC/new compiler which wasn't GPLv3 (assuming GCC becomes so), not about any code which might happen to be processed by GCC or linked with parts of it, which is entirely irrelevant to the discussion, and not affected by any proposed license changes.
Guess it was too much effort to check for yourself, Sherlock.
Look at e.g./usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/copyright (Debian).
GCC is GPLv2 with some special exceptions for its libraries (libgcc, libstdc++). The prerelease 4.3 is also GPLv2; I can't comment on future plans of the GCC developers.
I'm in SoCal, and there's really only two choices - AT&T DSL (1.5, 3, 6Mb) or TWC (~5Mb). I had 3Mb at home, and it was almost always possible to max that out. I recommitted for 12 months to 6Mb (worked out being about the same price). That takes a while to ramp up, and doesn't always max out - of course, AT&T's claim is "at least 3Mb".
Having said that, at work we have 3 x 6Mb business DSL lines, and it's easy to quickly max those out, although it can depend on where you're getting stuff from. mirrors.kernel.org for example tends to be busy at times, and the Debian ISO mirror is in Sweden (I think). From what I hear about cable, it tends to be over subscribed around here.
So why do we have 3 you might ask? Well, we don't - we actually have 5 separate lines. I won't say too much about the details to avoid this being an advertisement and because it's not quite ready yet, but we have a product that aggregates broadband connections using a variety of tricks and techniques, giving you essentially linear increases in speed for every connection added (for HTTP anyway, other protocols are load balanced). The SpeakEasy test reports north of 16Mb/sec. For large file downloads, (HTTP and bittorrent, depending) you can get over 1.5MB/sec. Other broadband speed tests may report bogus values because they try various tricks and our setup confuses them, YMMV. (And yes, before anyone starts, we understand all about multiple IPs and authentication, etc, etc).
Of course, the available speeds in mainland Europe (and some parts of the UK, although there's a huge range of variation there) tend to be much higher. I'm stuck in backwards California.
Slashdot Mirror
And a little bit of research is a little different to posting to Slashdot, isn't it?
FWIW http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_Hardware. Of course, on any platform, it's clearly WIP.
In any case, the Greenphone is way too expensive to purchase for personal use:
http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone/greenphone_pricing ($695)
The user version of the Neo will be around $450 or so - still pricey - but I might be able to justify it. I'm still considering one of the iPhone clones (Cect P168 et al at $160 or so), despite some of their nastiness (including being nothing to do with Linux). Either way, I'd only make $5 of calls per month.
Sloppy indeed. I made no such quote. End of story.
The libraries, hence the exception to allow linking with arbitrary programs.
But before you try and change the goal posts, the point you replied to was a reimplementation of GCC/new compiler which wasn't GPLv3 (assuming GCC becomes so), not about any code which might happen to be processed by GCC or linked with parts of it, which is entirely irrelevant to the discussion, and not affected by any proposed license changes.
Guess it was too much effort to check for yourself, Sherlock.
/usr/share/doc/gcc-4.2-base/copyright (Debian).
Look at e.g.
GCC is GPLv2 with some special exceptions for its libraries (libgcc, libstdc++). The prerelease 4.3 is also GPLv2; I can't comment on future plans of the GCC developers.
glibc is LGPL, but that's a whole other project.
Luckily, I use _Firefox_. If you're going to do something so sad, at least get the name of the product right.
I'm in SoCal, and there's really only two choices - AT&T DSL (1.5, 3, 6Mb) or TWC (~5Mb). I had 3Mb at home, and it was almost always possible to max that out. I recommitted for 12 months to 6Mb (worked out being about the same price). That takes a while to ramp up, and doesn't always max out - of course, AT&T's claim is "at least 3Mb".
Having said that, at work we have 3 x 6Mb business DSL lines, and it's easy to quickly max those out, although it can depend on where you're getting stuff from. mirrors.kernel.org for example tends to be busy at times, and the Debian ISO mirror is in Sweden (I think). From what I hear about cable, it tends to be over subscribed around here.
So why do we have 3 you might ask? Well, we don't - we actually have 5 separate lines. I won't say too much about the details to avoid this being an advertisement and because it's not quite ready yet, but we have a product that aggregates broadband connections using a variety of tricks and techniques, giving you essentially linear increases in speed for every connection added (for HTTP anyway, other protocols are load balanced). The SpeakEasy test reports north of 16Mb/sec. For large file downloads, (HTTP and bittorrent, depending) you can get over 1.5MB/sec. Other broadband speed tests may report bogus values because they try various tricks and our setup confuses them, YMMV. (And yes, before anyone starts, we understand all about multiple IPs and authentication, etc, etc).
Of course, the available speeds in mainland Europe (and some parts of the UK, although there's a huge range of variation there) tend to be much higher. I'm stuck in backwards California.