I know of a company near to where I work who do it as a business for large organisations. They'll be brought in to test network security and use all sorts of tools, including the simple ones like nmap and port scanning.
If you want to check that your network is safe in a similar way but don't have several thousand to burn, what's wrong with checking?
This is another one of those "will limit the rights of law abiding citizens while the criminals continue to ignore it (because they're criminal)" laws.
Ditto. I had a Nokia 3210 on Pay As You Go until the battery life was so short on it that it became about as cheap to buy a new 3310 on Pay As You Go as it was to get a new battery.
I'm 23 and all I use my phone for is occasional texting (to tell my fiancee where I'll meet her) or to call someone briefly (to say I'm near X, so how do I get to Y?). That's all I've done for the last eight years I've had a phone.
Why shell out loads on a contract when you can make a £30 phone last you years and a £10 credit last you months?;)
Redundant? If you use a random acronym without writing it out in full first (which is normal good practice) then how can you expect everyone to know what it means? It's not even as if it's in TFA. The full name is in the "About Us", but how many/.ers read TFA?
As an example of bad acronym use, I play and mod DoW and one of the problems you can encounter when modding is PBoD. Any ideas what it is? What about if I posted a Slashdot article about how it was easy to fix the PBoD, or how Relic had replaced PBoD with SODM?
And for all those wondering, PBoD is "Pink Box of Doom" - the default model Relic use when the model is missing - and it's a phrase I came up with that caught on a little on the forums, and SODM is something I came up with now for this reply that's "Some Other Default Model". But it's all just as meaningful as MST3K if you've never heard of it before
Oh, and DoW is Dawn of War, a Warhammer 40,000-based computer game;)
I didn't pay attention to the differences when they mentioned it on the news (while the petition was being drafted), just that Sir Cliff was complaining that he'd still be alive and some of his early works would go out of copyright.
When something is copyrighted beyond death, I don't think you could complain at 50 years! For some people that's more than an additional half-lifetime.
Someone should ask them where there is profit in P2P file sharing (and if they don't understand it then explain P2P to them as well).
Even the people I've known who sell copied DVDs and CDs aren't "organised", they were just loners with large stacks of CDs, multiple writers and lots of time on their hands.
The other main source of dodgy media is the car boot sale and market. Somehow I doubt organised crime and drugs are behind those stalls either.
When Britney Spears wants to record a song, you want to have a say, don't you?
Corrected;)
TBH it's not just when she wants to cover things that I want a say, it's when she tries to 'sing'. Unfortunately what I want to say would probably be caught by an expletive filter. It starts "Don't anyone let her..."
Sir Cliff will start losing his royalties before the end of next year ("Move It" (1958)).
I don't think that's too unfair, though. How many times has he released (or re-released) another Christmas song? And how long have some of his old Christmas hits been earning him royalties for?
TBH I think some of us will be glad come Christmas if Cliff Richard says he isn't releasing any more songs if the copyright stays at 50 years:D
I live in the UK, so luckily I live in a country that's more democratic than capitalist-ocratic. Lobbying isn't a major thing, but I still get the impression that companies have more influence than people.
There's no such thing as a truly democratic nation. If there was then they'd vote on everything and never get anywhere. Any compromise on that system isn't full democracy, and I think that because people are so materialistic then the "give more power to highest bidder" system does become a de facto standard in many ways.
They're politicians, though. If they're not influenced by Hollywood (which is aimed more at the studios here than the Hollywood celebs) then they're influenced by some other large organisation (hence the "insert...here").
Also, is it just your personal selection that makes it look that way, or is it really just the war in/invasion of Iraq that Bush and the Republicans won't back down on? The war and "best for the country" is (IMO) debatable at best, but that's another subject.
Like the other comment implies, why not just get Microsoft involved in the Wine project?
Taking a Bond-esque analogy, if we had the 'enemy agent' working with us then we might be to diffuse the bomb and get to the goal quicker and without the major issues;)
Other than the fact that Beryl isn't available on Windows (since it works with the XOrg server) and that Compiz would be better for the masses as it's more stable (or Compiz Fusion, for the best of both worlds) then "Compiz-Beryl-Fusion" isn't just for "people_who_like_flashy_stuff/idiots".
Yes, it adds flashy stuff, but it also adds some usability things as well as the hugely sensible idea of offloading window rendering to the graphics card. If you've got a $200+ graphics card then why leave it idling when you can make it do some work (which it's far more suitable for) and leave more processing power for more 'useful' processing?
Isn't that half of the definition of democracy in a capitalist country, that it's corrupted by money?;)
Public Officials taking money used to be called "bribery", now it's called "lobbying".
It's always good to see how Politicians and their Spin-Doctors can come up with a new phrase to make something bad sound reasonable! I dread to think how many other terms and procedures have been 'normalised' by government naming and spin.
Isn't that just the normal form of democracy in a capitalist nation?
Something I was reminded of recently (possibly stolen from Terry Pratchett): People are confused about Politicians. People think Politicians run the country in the way that the people think is best. Really, Politicians run the country in the way that they think is best for the people.
I think it has always been a touch of Hollywood Vs Petrol in politics, only now it's coming to the front more and not being so well hidden.
"Unfortunately we are likely to see neither sense nor principle from the Democrats on this issue, as Hollywood is their biggest cash machine."
(Emphasis mine)
Now is it just me, or does that quote imply that if it was the Republicans bringing in this possible law (or law amendment or whatever) then they wouldn't be influenced by Hollywood or [insert other large corporation/group with large amounts of money]? To put it politely, that idea is laughable!
A bugzilla ticket on what? The main exploit or the general ability to access a form field (albeit a password one) via JavaScript from within a web page?
I'd imagine the first one has been Bugzilla'd a bit, especially after these articles. The second one may have been, but AFAIK it's part of the standard and so my "the website shouldn't allow user-inserted JavaScript" comments from the other two posts apply.
I do, because some sites log me off after so long and I have so many combinations of similar passwords that I don't want to get locked out while trying them;)
Possibly, but how many bugs have been exploited in Firefox because of being able to view the source code and how many would have been picked up by a closed-source 'fuzzing' anyway?
This one was a "how the browser works" based on visible behaviour, so it would have been found in a closed-source app as well.
Just before someone starts "Firefox Fanboi!"ing at me, I do know there's a way where only Firefox's password remembering could be exploited. That situation is when you do what the demo does, but hide the forms through CSS, so the user won't see them but Firefox still auto-populates.
Still, I think the fact that a website lets you include Javascript (which could then let you steal any password entered on the page, remembered or not) is a *much* bigger vulnerability. There are just so many ways you could exploit and abuse that!
Is Firefox really that insecure for this compared to the others? Yes, it auto-fills it but then any site that lets other people add Javascript to a page is vulnerable in an almost identical way. The main part of the script (on a timer to allow for auto-population) is:
function doit() {
name = document.passtest.name.value;
password = document.passtest.password.value;
alert("Your username is: " + name + " and the password is: " + password); }
All you need is to know the form on the page, subscribe to the submit event and snag the password contents for yourself and you've busted any browser wide open (as long as it lets you enter usernames and passwords) without the need to exploit password saving. You could even potentially listen for Ctrl+Enter key combos in Opera, although catching the use of the wand might be more difficult.
Yeah, it's the same issue. On the plus side, they don't link to the same article (unless you count the fact that this one links to an article that links to the article from the old one)
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I know of a company near to where I work who do it as a business for large organisations. They'll be brought in to test network security and use all sorts of tools, including the simple ones like nmap and port scanning.
If you want to check that your network is safe in a similar way but don't have several thousand to burn, what's wrong with checking?
This is another one of those "will limit the rights of law abiding citizens while the criminals continue to ignore it (because they're criminal)" laws.
Ditto. I had a Nokia 3210 on Pay As You Go until the battery life was so short on it that it became about as cheap to buy a new 3310 on Pay As You Go as it was to get a new battery.
;)
I'm 23 and all I use my phone for is occasional texting (to tell my fiancee where I'll meet her) or to call someone briefly (to say I'm near X, so how do I get to Y?). That's all I've done for the last eight years I've had a phone.
Why shell out loads on a contract when you can make a £30 phone last you years and a £10 credit last you months?
Redundant? If you use a random acronym without writing it out in full first (which is normal good practice) then how can you expect everyone to know what it means? It's not even as if it's in TFA. The full name is in the "About Us", but how many /.ers read TFA?
As an example of bad acronym use, I play and mod DoW and one of the problems you can encounter when modding is PBoD. Any ideas what it is? What about if I posted a Slashdot article about how it was easy to fix the PBoD, or how Relic had replaced PBoD with SODM?
And for all those wondering, PBoD is "Pink Box of Doom" - the default model Relic use when the model is missing - and it's a phrase I came up with that caught on a little on the forums, and SODM is something I came up with now for this reply that's "Some Other Default Model". But it's all just as meaningful as MST3K if you've never heard of it before
Oh, and DoW is Dawn of War, a Warhammer 40,000-based computer game ;)
And for all those who don't have a clue what MST3K is and whether you should care:
;) )
http://www.mst3kinfo.com/mstfaq/basics.html
(Q1 says "What is Mystery Science Theater 3000?"
I didn't pay attention to the differences when they mentioned it on the news (while the petition was being drafted), just that Sir Cliff was complaining that he'd still be alive and some of his early works would go out of copyright.
When something is copyrighted beyond death, I don't think you could complain at 50 years! For some people that's more than an additional half-lifetime.
Assuming the user has JavaScript enabled and hasn't disabled it to stop the popup and other adverts ;)
Someone should ask them where there is profit in P2P file sharing (and if they don't understand it then explain P2P to them as well).
Even the people I've known who sell copied DVDs and CDs aren't "organised", they were just loners with large stacks of CDs, multiple writers and lots of time on their hands.
The other main source of dodgy media is the car boot sale and market. Somehow I doubt organised crime and drugs are behind those stalls either.
Corrected
TBH it's not just when she wants to cover things that I want a say, it's when she tries to 'sing'. Unfortunately what I want to say would probably be caught by an expletive filter. It starts "Don't anyone let her
Sir Cliff will start losing his royalties before the end of next year ("Move It" (1958)).
:D
I don't think that's too unfair, though. How many times has he released (or re-released) another Christmas song? And how long have some of his old Christmas hits been earning him royalties for?
TBH I think some of us will be glad come Christmas if Cliff Richard says he isn't releasing any more songs if the copyright stays at 50 years
BMW doesn't fit ;) It was Ferrari documents in McLaren hands, with the 'offending' engineers also trying to get jobs at Honda.
*wonders how BMW have anything to do with Apple*
If we had a Ferrari chief mechanic providing us information then we might be able to build a better McLaren F1 car in a faster time?
:D Or perhaps too European?
Or is that just libellous?
I live in the UK, so luckily I live in a country that's more democratic than capitalist-ocratic. Lobbying isn't a major thing, but I still get the impression that companies have more influence than people.
There's no such thing as a truly democratic nation. If there was then they'd vote on everything and never get anywhere. Any compromise on that system isn't full democracy, and I think that because people are so materialistic then the "give more power to highest bidder" system does become a de facto standard in many ways.
They're politicians, though. If they're not influenced by Hollywood (which is aimed more at the studios here than the Hollywood celebs) then they're influenced by some other large organisation (hence the "insert...here").
Also, is it just your personal selection that makes it look that way, or is it really just the war in/invasion of Iraq that Bush and the Republicans won't back down on? The war and "best for the country" is (IMO) debatable at best, but that's another subject.
Like the other comment implies, why not just get Microsoft involved in the Wine project?
;)
Taking a Bond-esque analogy, if we had the 'enemy agent' working with us then we might be to diffuse the bomb and get to the goal quicker and without the major issues
Other than the fact that Beryl isn't available on Windows (since it works with the XOrg server) and that Compiz would be better for the masses as it's more stable (or Compiz Fusion, for the best of both worlds) then "Compiz-Beryl-Fusion" isn't just for "people_who_like_flashy_stuff/idiots".
Yes, it adds flashy stuff, but it also adds some usability things as well as the hugely sensible idea of offloading window rendering to the graphics card. If you've got a $200+ graphics card then why leave it idling when you can make it do some work (which it's far more suitable for) and leave more processing power for more 'useful' processing?
So they're corrupt and hide it better? Or corrupt and smile more? Or corrupt and use donkeys instead of elephants?
:)
Maybe that's it, maybe they're corrupt and kick you while braying instead of being corrupt and trampling all over you with their large feet
And of course everyone knows. I don't think you can be a politician without being corrupt. It's almost like part of the job requirements.
Isn't that half of the definition of democracy in a capitalist country, that it's corrupted by money?
It's always good to see how Politicians and their Spin-Doctors can come up with a new phrase to make something bad sound reasonable! I dread to think how many other terms and procedures have been 'normalised' by government naming and spin.
Isn't that just the normal form of democracy in a capitalist nation?
Something I was reminded of recently (possibly stolen from Terry Pratchett): People are confused about Politicians. People think Politicians run the country in the way that the people think is best. Really, Politicians run the country in the way that they think is best for the people.
I think it has always been a touch of Hollywood Vs Petrol in politics, only now it's coming to the front more and not being so well hidden.
(Emphasis mine)
Now is it just me, or does that quote imply that if it was the Republicans bringing in this possible law (or law amendment or whatever) then they wouldn't be influenced by Hollywood or [insert other large corporation/group with large amounts of money]? To put it politely, that idea is laughable!
A bugzilla ticket on what? The main exploit or the general ability to access a form field (albeit a password one) via JavaScript from within a web page?
I'd imagine the first one has been Bugzilla'd a bit, especially after these articles. The second one may have been, but AFAIK it's part of the standard and so my "the website shouldn't allow user-inserted JavaScript" comments from the other two posts apply.
I do, because some sites log me off after so long and I have so many combinations of similar passwords that I don't want to get locked out while trying them ;)
Possibly, but how many bugs have been exploited in Firefox because of being able to view the source code and how many would have been picked up by a closed-source 'fuzzing' anyway?
This one was a "how the browser works" based on visible behaviour, so it would have been found in a closed-source app as well.
Just before someone starts "Firefox Fanboi!"ing at me, I do know there's a way where only Firefox's password remembering could be exploited. That situation is when you do what the demo does, but hide the forms through CSS, so the user won't see them but Firefox still auto-populates.
Still, I think the fact that a website lets you include Javascript (which could then let you steal any password entered on the page, remembered or not) is a *much* bigger vulnerability. There are just so many ways you could exploit and abuse that!
Yeah, it's the same issue. On the plus side, they don't link to the same article (unless you count the fact that this one links to an article that links to the article from the old one)