So if I do not think enough Christian leaders have denounced the Catholic priests "man-handling" of choir boys, then Christianity has not denounced it?
What about the cops in Los Angeles picking up the film's producer for "questioning"? What the fuck is that about? How is that acceptable?
Because he was a convicted PCB manufacturer possibly violating his parole? Maybe they wanted to check the ages of some of the people in the soft-core porn movies he also produced?
Yeah, this guy Torquemada and his fine Inquisition would like a word with you. Abolishing slavery? Slavery was defended by Christians based on scripture as well (remember all the laws regarding slaves in the Old Testament). "How can you make equal that which God has made unequal?" as the trailer for the new movie about Lincoln says. And you cannot have failed to see all the references to "God with us" etc. in war propaganda?
Plenty of so-called "copyright infringements" get blocked on a daily basis, abusing the freedom of the people to gain access to cultural creations they are entitled to because the proper terms of copyright monopoly have expired. But because of "arbitrary rulers and arbitrary whims" the rules have been changed to abuse this monopoly, a violation of the contract: A limited protection in return for the work entering the public domain.
Yet Google have automatic software that scans YouTube and the like, looking for potential "copyright violations" and take them down.
Fix that, first. That is even without involving another country but the United States themselves.
I thought burning (at least the U.S. flag) was protected speech if done in the United States? That there is a yearly ritual where some conservative Senator proposes a bill to ban it which is then summarily voted down on 1st Amendment grounds? So why not let others do that, too?
Well, it has to be self-appointed, since Sunni Islam does not have a formal church like the Catholics do, so who else should appoint it? As long as it has been accepted by most it should function as intended.
I would like to have seen Fox News' coverage of the recently uncovered cover-up of sexual abuses in the (largely Christian and conservative) Scout organizations over there...
Well, it's the third rehash of the same desert fairy tales the Jews and Christians believe in: The Christians added Mithranism to make it more palatable to Romans, and the Muslims just ripped that part out again. Though apart from the Old Testament genocides, it seems the Jews have done less killing than their other two descendant religions - that's a plus in their favor at least...
Were they? All signs point to "No, they were sent to bring back riches". One of the crusades even decided to detour and sack Christian (but the "wrong kind") city of Constantinople. Then we have the "Children's Crusade", where the participants were sold into slavery.
There was no Israel to invade - it is a modern construct; There used to be Judea and Samaria, lands under varying rulers, Romans, Persians, Turks etc. and later the British. They were not there to free it, but to claim it for their empire; the crusaders murdered both Muslims and Jews. Stop romanticizing their brutality.
Only the Shia minority branch has "religious leaders", the majority Sunni have no formal church hierarchy. You are looking for the Arab Pope where none is to be found.
... or if you say something offensive often enough, people start to believe it, and soon enough hundreds of thousands of Tutsi and moderate Hutu have been murdered. Can Rwanda happen again? Yes, that is why we have the concept of hate speech.
As I understand it, forced marriages are illegal in Islam as well (though arranged marriages are OK), but some pre-Islamic traditions persist (e.g. some Pakistani Muslims employ the Hindu caste system, defying that all men should be equal before God and all that)..
As for circumcision, it is practiced also among Jews and some protestant Americans, the latter often using varying justifications citing health advantages (long since refuted)... not sure what they have to do with sharia courts.
Given that women generally had far greater rights in Islam than in e.g. Catholicism, I fail to see the problem; yes there are stronger separations of the rights and duties of the sexes, but they are not that different from what were practiced in the Christian West as late as the 1950s. Except women could not divorce abusive husbands in Catholic countries...
Yes, he consummated the marriage early (for a modern Western frame of reference, what with the women's right campaigners having managed to establish proper age of content laws), but it should be pointed out that he remained married to her for many years. If he had been a "pedophile" (as so many haters yell), he would he found himself a new youngster, right?
All religions are incompatible, but we have pulled the claws out of most of the Christians who held the Western world in its grasp for centuries. So it can sit there in its corner and sulk. Islam seems to be important to have as an enemy: If the Muslims went away tomorrow, would you go back to Jew-bashing?
Well, it was also banned. In at least two countries: Norway and South Africa. Then it was allowed onto Norwegian cinema screens as long as it omitted subtitles in the parts where our theocratic overlords felt were too close for comfort.
Hey, ask the U.S. Senate about freedom of speech regarding the WikiLeaks... leaks. From the diplomatic corps. Which caused their friends some embarrassment.
How should "Islam" denounce it? They do not have a Pope, no central religious authority. And it's not like we require random passing Christians to denounce the Catholic boy-rapes every time they are exposed either...
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So if I do not think enough Christian leaders have denounced the Catholic priests "man-handling" of choir boys, then Christianity has not denounced it?
Google does not need to believe in freedom of speech, they are a private corporation, not Congress.
Ookay... what has that to do with anything?
What about the cops in Los Angeles picking up the film's producer for "questioning"? What the fuck is that about? How is that acceptable?
Because he was a convicted PCB manufacturer possibly violating his parole? Maybe they wanted to check the ages of some of the people in the soft-core porn movies he also produced?
Yeah, this guy Torquemada and his fine Inquisition would like a word with you. Abolishing slavery? Slavery was defended by Christians based on scripture as well (remember all the laws regarding slaves in the Old Testament). "How can you make equal that which God has made unequal?" as the trailer for the new movie about Lincoln says. And you cannot have failed to see all the references to "God with us" etc. in war propaganda?
Plenty of so-called "copyright infringements" get blocked on a daily basis, abusing the freedom of the people to gain access to cultural creations they are entitled to because the proper terms of copyright monopoly have expired. But because of "arbitrary rulers and arbitrary whims" the rules have been changed to abuse this monopoly, a violation of the contract: A limited protection in return for the work entering the public domain.
Yet Google have automatic software that scans YouTube and the like, looking for potential "copyright violations" and take them down.
Fix that, first. That is even without involving another country but the United States themselves.
I thought burning (at least the U.S. flag) was protected speech if done in the United States? That there is a yearly ritual where some conservative Senator proposes a bill to ban it which is then summarily voted down on 1st Amendment grounds? So why not let others do that, too?
Well, it has to be self-appointed, since Sunni Islam does not have a formal church like the Catholics do, so who else should appoint it? As long as it has been accepted by most it should function as intended.
I would like to have seen Fox News' coverage of the recently uncovered cover-up of sexual abuses in the (largely Christian and conservative) Scout organizations over there...
Better than a Christian shooting up a cinema because he has seen Batman...
Well, it's the third rehash of the same desert fairy tales the Jews and Christians believe in: The Christians added Mithranism to make it more palatable to Romans, and the Muslims just ripped that part out again. Though apart from the Old Testament genocides, it seems the Jews have done less killing than their other two descendant religions - that's a plus in their favor at least...
Exactly: Congress, not Google. Google are free to do as they please. There is no provision that Google have a duty to distribute your speech.
Move to a more free country. :)
Were they? All signs point to "No, they were sent to bring back riches". One of the crusades even decided to detour and sack Christian (but the "wrong kind") city of Constantinople. Then we have the "Children's Crusade", where the participants were sold into slavery.
There was no Israel to invade - it is a modern construct; There used to be Judea and Samaria, lands under varying rulers, Romans, Persians, Turks etc. and later the British. They were not there to free it, but to claim it for their empire; the crusaders murdered both Muslims and Jews. Stop romanticizing their brutality.
Only the Shia minority branch has "religious leaders", the majority Sunni have no formal church hierarchy. You are looking for the Arab Pope where none is to be found.
... or if you say something offensive often enough, people start to believe it, and soon enough hundreds of thousands of Tutsi and moderate Hutu have been murdered. Can Rwanda happen again? Yes, that is why we have the concept of hate speech.
As I understand it, forced marriages are illegal in Islam as well (though arranged marriages are OK), but some pre-Islamic traditions persist (e.g. some Pakistani Muslims employ the Hindu caste system, defying that all men should be equal before God and all that)..
As for circumcision, it is practiced also among Jews and some protestant Americans, the latter often using varying justifications citing health advantages (long since refuted)... not sure what they have to do with sharia courts.
Given that women generally had far greater rights in Islam than in e.g. Catholicism, I fail to see the problem; yes there are stronger separations of the rights and duties of the sexes, but they are not that different from what were practiced in the Christian West as late as the 1950s. Except women could not divorce abusive husbands in Catholic countries...
Yes, he consummated the marriage early (for a modern Western frame of reference, what with the women's right campaigners having managed to establish proper age of content laws), but it should be pointed out that he remained married to her for many years. If he had been a "pedophile" (as so many haters yell), he would he found himself a new youngster, right?
Can't you tell when U.S. centrism is being mocked? You are no fun at parties.
All religions are incompatible, but we have pulled the claws out of most of the Christians who held the Western world in its grasp for centuries. So it can sit there in its corner and sulk. Islam seems to be important to have as an enemy: If the Muslims went away tomorrow, would you go back to Jew-bashing?
Well, it was also banned. In at least two countries: Norway and South Africa. Then it was allowed onto Norwegian cinema screens as long as it omitted subtitles in the parts where our theocratic overlords felt were too close for comfort.
World wide? Four countries? Here in "Eurabia" as the funny Americans like to say, there have largely just been annoyance.
... and since limiting freedom of speech was such a nice instrument of power, the Nazis expanded on the already established trend...
Hey, ask the U.S. Senate about freedom of speech regarding the WikiLeaks... leaks. From the diplomatic corps. Which caused their friends some embarrassment.
How should "Islam" denounce it? They do not have a Pope, no central religious authority. And it's not like we require random passing Christians to denounce the Catholic boy-rapes every time they are exposed either...