Actually, I've tried using fsv, and it's kind of interesting, if not very practical. Unfortunately, I failed miserably to get it to display propoerly with my Voodoo2 under Mesa/Glide.
"Today's weather will be cloudy with some drizzle in the afternoon. Network conditions will probably be poor throughout the day, although they may improve towards midnight. Now back to you, Cindy..."
Actually, that UNIX system in Jurassic Park was using a real interface. It's called "fsn", and it was developed by SGI. Unfortunately, it's only available for Irix...
I have no objection to humour; if this was a KDE page, I wouldn't mind. What I mind is that TrollTech is a for-profit organization, and thus has a monetary inerest in the failure of GNOME (as this would promote the use of KDE, thus widening the market for Qt apps).
It seems even TrollTech is getting in on the GNOME bashing. I like both GNOME and KDE, but really, that's not the sort of thing I expect to see on a corporate home page. How about a little professionalism, guys?
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. A couple of points:
1. Drivers - There are quite a few drivers under Linux (I don't know about NT - I don't use it myself) which have had trouble with SMP. They include the 2940 SCSI driver, many of the sound drivers (I still have the occasional problem with my AWE64) and the USB drivers (which are, admittedly, not meant to be stable yet).
2. Cost - Well, as I said, SMP requires better quality of components. That's the cause of the higher cost, not the effect.
5. I'm not saying you'd have to go to a full NUMA architecture, but the Alpha's bus isn't that much more difficult to produce, and economies of scale would quickly bring the price down.
Maybe the guy made a bad decision.. if so he should be charged with at least wrongful death.
Well, for someone who supposedly "read 2 articles" about the incident, you give a fine display of complete ignorance. The shooter was charged and acquitted for manslaughter, but the parents of the boy started a civil suit in which they won a fair amount of damages.
there is nothing to be protected from if there is a stable government... duh! The guns help keep the government from making bad choices. An armed public is not always an easy public to push around.. an unarmed public is 250 million cattle to be led to slaughter. If you think the government is ALWAYS the good guy and can do no wrong then.. wow... wake up.. or bend over further cause your getting alot of air blown up your ass
*Sigh* What I was trying to say (which seems to have escaped you) is that by working towards a better government (rather than just spending more money on guns), you might actually be able to improve the situation. BTW, when's the last time you (or anybody you know) used one of your guns to shoot at a government official?
Um... well, that was exactly the point I was making... the original poster asked for an example of corporate takeover of an open source project, the reply said "Mozilla", and I corrected that by saying that Mozilla had been released under the GPL.
Try reading the post before replying next time, please...
If you really believe everything he wrote, I'm sorry for you, because you're a gullible fool without the wit to think for yourself or actually bother to learn anything about the case before shooting your mouth off.
As for your line "When all the guns are gone, whats left to protect your freedom?", how about a stable government with the support of the people? Or is that too difficult a concept for you?
Anyway, I'm truly angry about the level of ignorance displayed among some of the posters and moderators on this thread. F'chrissakes, a kid was KILLED because some redneck decided he and his wife were in a life-threatening situation. You do realize that in most countries he would have been convicted for manslaughter, if not for outright murder?
True. I've been using an SMP machine for three years now, and it's painful to go back to a single-processor machine. However, I think that there are several reasons for hardware vendors (in particular, x86 vendors) not releasing SMP machines:
1. Drivers SMP causes a lot of badly-written drivers to fail, although they might work reasonably well under a single CPU.
2. Cost SMP on x86 requires more expensive motherboards, a larger-capacity power supply, and overall better quality of components, all of which costs more (not to mention the cost of the second CPU itself).
3. Competition x86 vendors have to keep their prices down in order to be competitive, and with the current "MHz = Better speed" idea firmly implanted in the minds of most people, it's going to be harder selling a dual-CPU 700MHz system (for example) if there are 800MHz single-CPU systems available.
4. Lack of OS support Like it or not, the majority of users are still stuck on Win95/98, neither of which support SMP. WinNT/2000 does, but how many computers for home use are sold with those installed?
5. Bad architecture The x86 platform's SMP, quite frankly, sucks. A lousy bus/cache architecture means that you won't get 2x the performance you would from a single CPU for any application which hits main memory a lot.
6. Difficulty of programming for SMP If you want to get the benefits of SMP from within a single application, you basically have to use threads, which are a real pain to debug properly.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head...
Another recent case, this time in Louisiana, also provides some insight into the manner in which armed self-defence is viewed in the United States. On October 17, 1992, Rodney Peairs fatally shot Yoshihiro Hattori, a Japanese high school exchange student who mistakenly approached Peairs' door while searching for a Halloween party (73 Texas Law Review 1041). Peairs' wife opened the door and, frightened by the approaching Japanese student, called out to her husband to get his gun. Rodney Peairs retrieved his.44 Magnum, pointed the gun at Hattori, and shouted, "Freeze" (36 William & Mary Law Review 1). Apparently, not understanding the order, Hattori continued toward the door and was fatally shot.
The case sparked an international furor when the jury acquitted Peairs of manslaughter, concluding that he "acted reasonably as a frightened homeowner" using "deadly force to protect himself from an intruder (36 Wm. & Mary L. Rev. 1). It is noteworthy, however, that a Louisiana civil court subsequently awarded Hattori's parents a sizable cash award for damages, ruling that the shooting was not justified (95 0144 (La.App. 1 Cir. 10/6/95), 662 So.2d 509).
Quite frankly, the moderation on this thread disgusts me. I thought people here were a little more reasonable and able to think for themselves, but it'd seem we have the same proportion of raving gun nuts as any other section of the US population.
You're being deliberately misleading about the facts of the case. In fact, I would call you a fucking liar. Just because you're a gun nut doesn't justify twisting the truth to suit your own ends.
The "kid" was teenager from Japan. He was about maximum-violence "gangsta" age.
As are all the kids I know of that age... (well, DUH!) And when's the last time you saw a Japanese gangsta?
He was an exchange student, so he was moderately clueless about the local customs.
Yeah, local customs like shooting people for knocking on your door.
Like many teenagers in/from Japan at the time he had a bad habit: He would suddenly run at people, yelling and making threatening gestures, then take a picture of their expressions of fear. (A disarmed society is NOT a polite society!)
This is such complete bullshit. Get off the crack, buddy.
It was Halloween. It was after dark.
It was Halloween. It was before dark (late afternoon).
The "kid" and another teenage boy from his host's household showed up on the doorstep of a house and tried the door. When confronted, they claimed they were trying to find a party and gave a different address. They were told they were at the wrong address and to go away.
A few minutes later the householder was disturbed again: They were back, trying the door of the garage. The wife, understandably agitated, called the husband, who confronted them again.
I'm not sure why you put quotation marks around the word "kid". He WAS a kid. And the rest of your bullshit is just total fantasy. They knocked on the door, the wife came out, she panicked (well, they were wearing Halloween costumes, something which must be a real rarity on Halloween) and screamed, and the boy (whose name was Hattori, BTW) tried to calm her by taking a few steps (NOT running) towards her while smiling with his EMPTY hands outspread.
Then the woman's husband came charging out of the house brandishing a.44 Magnum revolver and yelled "FREEZE!" (which Hattori didn't understand - it's another one of those "local customs" to point handguns at people while screaming "freeze", I guess); Hattori probably didn't realize it was genuine (Japan's a basically gunless society) and took a few more steps forward (still smiling), at which point the husband blew him away.
They started to go again. But after a few steps the Japanese student suddenly turned, brandished a small black object, and ran roaring at the householder.
This is a total fabrication. Like I said, get off the crack, asshole.
The killer (NOT murderer!) did indeed get off scott free (and rightly so.) Except, of course, for the expense and risk and stress of the trial. And the stress, for himself and his family, of having killed the "kid". And the stress from the liberal press having a field day with him.
Yeah, real stressful. Still better than being dead, though.
Not to mention the orchestrated letter campaign from people in Japan, calling for the US to ban guns. (I wonder what they'd think of an orchestrated letter campaign in the US calling for Japan to ban knives - especially deadly assault katanas?)
Where are you getting this crap from? What fucking "deadly assault katanas"? You really need to get a grip on reality.
You've got to be careful doing that type of shit though. A few years back here in Ontario there were a COUPLE incidents of swat teams getting the wrong address and going in for bear.
Happens here, too.
Hope it happens to you, so you can feel the effects of living in a gun-ridden society at first hand.
Well, it's pretty obvious that the Japanese (actually, the so-called Yamato people) came to Japan from the south, and have strong links with Korea. The "no evidence" thing is total bullshit - there is evidence, but the Kunaicho (the branch of the government responsible for the Imperial Family) keeps burying it, because almost all of it points to Korea as being the birthplace of the Emperor's ancestors, and God knows we couldn't have something like that being brought out into the open...:(
TRON is still out there. See here. I believe there was a new release of the BTRON OS a month or two ago, which has support for around 130,000 characters...
Well, we all know that psychologists are the bottom-feeders of the scientific world, so I wouldn't bother listening to them too much.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in its strong form has been discredited many times, but every time this kind of topic comes up, someone always drags it out of its grave. Please, let it rest in peace.
Just another note. I have studied Linguistics, Pacific and Asian studies and Japanese during my undergraduate degree.
Well, I'd go back and retake your classes, because you obviously didn't learn much the first time round.
English does incorporate new concepts quickly, but this is mainly because it is widely used, requiring such incorporation to remain valid as a tool of communication. However, this is not limited to English; Japanese also does a fairly good job through the use of "gairaigo", which actually forms roughly the same proportion of the language as the equivalent in English does (i.e., the proportion of Old English-based words is rougly equal to the proportion of original Japanese words, rather than those which were taken from China, Portugal, etc.
English retains as many "old words with historical significance" as any other language of reasonable antiquity (including Japanese). Japanese has changed with the times just as much as any other language; try reading a classical Japanese text and you'll see what I mean.
While Japanese and Chinese have large amounts of redundancy in their characters, English has a large amount of redundancy in its vocabulary; take a look at a good thesaurus, and compare the number of words for a particular concept with the number of words for that concept in Japanese (and don't try telling me that "all the English words have different nuances"; so do the different Chinese characters. Just because you can't grasp those nuances doesn't mean that native speakers make no distinction between the different characters.
One last word of advice: Don't be so goddamned arrogant.
Japanese telegraphs and their "morris code" equivalent uses exclusively katakana and is strictly phonetic, just like Japanese Braille.
Radio and telegraphic code would not have carried any of the ambiguity of the written language.
Well, you are mistaken. Orders written in katakana would be many times more ambiguous than orders written in kana-kanji. You'd have to judge every word by context alone, and while that isn't impossible (obviously), it does interfere with communication to some extent.
If you still think you're right, then tell me what this sentence means: "Kisha wa maiasa hayaku kuru ga, kesa wa osokatta".
Water is "wai" in Maori. The reason I bring up Maori is because one crazy Japanese linguist has a bee in his bonnet about the word "hole" in Japanese and Maori (which are supposedly both pronounced "ana"), thus proving that the Japanese and Polynesians come from common stock.
Then there's the guy who says that Japanese and Egyptian share common words, so Japanese are descended from the Egyptians... and then there's the other guy who says that Japanese shares some features with Hebrew, proving that one of the Tribes of Israel escaped to Japan (not to mention that Jesus's grave is located in northern Japan - no, really!)
Well, to answer Cliff's question, Perl written by a Japanese would look like Ruby. It's a very nice little object-oriented (and I don't mean like OO in Perl) script language that has bindings for several toolkits. See this page for a contrast with other languages.
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Actually, I've tried using fsv, and it's kind of interesting, if not very practical. Unfortunately, I failed miserably to get it to display propoerly with my Voodoo2 under Mesa/Glide.
"Today's weather will be cloudy with some drizzle in the afternoon. Network conditions will probably be poor throughout the day, although they may improve towards midnight. Now back to you, Cindy..."
Actually, that UNIX system in Jurassic Park was using a real interface. It's called "fsn", and it was developed by SGI. Unfortunately, it's only available for Irix...
I have no objection to humour; if this was a KDE page, I wouldn't mind. What I mind is that TrollTech is a for-profit organization, and thus has a monetary inerest in the failure of GNOME (as this would promote the use of KDE, thus widening the market for Qt apps).
It seems even TrollTech is getting in on the GNOME bashing. I like both GNOME and KDE, but really, that's not the sort of thing I expect to see on a corporate home page. How about a little professionalism, guys?
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. A couple of points:
1. Drivers - There are quite a few drivers under Linux (I don't know about NT - I don't use it myself) which have had trouble with SMP. They include the 2940 SCSI driver, many of the sound drivers (I still have the occasional problem with my AWE64) and the USB drivers (which are, admittedly, not meant to be stable yet).
2. Cost - Well, as I said, SMP requires better quality of components. That's the cause of the higher cost, not the effect.
5. I'm not saying you'd have to go to a full NUMA architecture, but the Alpha's bus isn't that much more difficult to produce, and economies of scale would quickly bring the price down.
Maybe the guy made a bad decision.. if so he should be charged with at least wrongful death.
Well, for someone who supposedly "read 2 articles" about the incident, you give a fine display of complete ignorance. The shooter was charged and acquitted for manslaughter, but the parents of the boy started a civil suit in which they won a fair amount of damages.
there is nothing to be protected from if there is a stable government... duh! The guns help keep the government from making bad choices. An armed public is not always an easy public to push around.. an unarmed public is 250 million cattle to be led to slaughter. If you think the government is ALWAYS the good guy and can do no wrong then.. wow... wake up.. or bend over further cause your getting alot of air blown up your ass
*Sigh* What I was trying to say (which seems to have escaped you) is that by working towards a better government (rather than just spending more money on guns), you might actually be able to improve the situation. BTW, when's the last time you (or anybody you know) used one of your guns to shoot at a government official?
Um... well, that was exactly the point I was making... the original poster asked for an example of corporate takeover of an open source project, the reply said "Mozilla", and I corrected that by saying that Mozilla had been released under the GPL.
Try reading the post before replying next time, please...
Damn right I'm consumed by emotion - mostly disgust, actually. Who the hell moderated a pack of lies up to "5: Interesting"?
If you really believe everything he wrote, I'm sorry for you, because you're a gullible fool without the wit to think for yourself or actually bother to learn anything about the case before shooting your mouth off.
As for your line "When all the guns are gone, whats left to protect your freedom?", how about a stable government with the support of the people? Or is that too difficult a concept for you?
Anyway, I'm truly angry about the level of ignorance displayed among some of the posters and moderators on this thread. F'chrissakes, a kid was KILLED because some redneck decided he and his wife were in a life-threatening situation. You do realize that in most countries he would have been convicted for manslaughter, if not for outright murder?
True. I've been using an SMP machine for three years now, and it's painful to go back to a single-processor machine. However, I think that there are several reasons for hardware vendors (in particular, x86 vendors) not releasing SMP machines:
1. Drivers
SMP causes a lot of badly-written drivers to fail, although they might work reasonably well under a single CPU.
2. Cost
SMP on x86 requires more expensive motherboards, a larger-capacity power supply, and overall better quality of components, all of which costs more (not to mention the cost of the second CPU itself).
3. Competition
x86 vendors have to keep their prices down in order to be competitive, and with the current "MHz = Better speed" idea firmly implanted in the minds of most people, it's going to be harder selling a dual-CPU 700MHz system (for example) if there are 800MHz single-CPU systems available.
4. Lack of OS support
Like it or not, the majority of users are still stuck on Win95/98, neither of which support SMP. WinNT/2000 does, but how many computers for home use are sold with those installed?
5. Bad architecture
The x86 platform's SMP, quite frankly, sucks. A lousy bus/cache architecture means that you won't get 2x the performance you would from a single CPU for any application which hits main memory a lot.
6. Difficulty of programming for SMP
If you want to get the benefits of SMP from within a single application, you basically have to use threads, which are a real pain to debug properly.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head...
Um... would that be the Mozilla that was announced as being double-licensed under the NPL and GPL just a few days ago?
Flamebait, huh? Yeah, right.
.44 Magnum, pointed the gun at Hattori, and shouted, "Freeze" (36 William & Mary Law Review 1). Apparently, not understanding the order, Hattori continued toward the door and was fatally shot.
To the moderator who took me down a point (and who moderated up the idiot above me): get your facts straight.
From a Canadian Department of Justice-funded report on use of firearms in Canada and the US:
Another recent case, this time in Louisiana, also provides some insight into the manner in which armed self-defence is viewed in the United States. On October 17, 1992, Rodney Peairs fatally shot Yoshihiro Hattori, a Japanese high school exchange student who mistakenly approached Peairs' door while searching for a Halloween party (73 Texas Law Review 1041). Peairs' wife opened the door and, frightened by the approaching Japanese student, called out to her husband to get his gun. Rodney Peairs retrieved his
The case sparked an international furor when the jury acquitted Peairs of manslaughter, concluding that he "acted reasonably as a frightened homeowner" using "deadly force to protect himself from an intruder (36 Wm. & Mary L. Rev. 1). It is noteworthy, however, that a Louisiana civil court subsequently awarded Hattori's parents a sizable cash award for damages, ruling that the shooting was not justified (95 0144 (La.App. 1 Cir. 10/6/95), 662 So.2d 509).
Quite frankly, the moderation on this thread disgusts me. I thought people here were a little more reasonable and able to think for themselves, but it'd seem we have the same proportion of raving gun nuts as any other section of the US population.
You're being deliberately misleading about the facts of the case. In fact, I would call you a fucking liar. Just because you're a gun nut doesn't justify twisting the truth to suit your own ends.
.44 Magnum revolver and yelled "FREEZE!" (which Hattori didn't understand - it's another one of those "local customs" to point handguns at people while screaming "freeze", I guess); Hattori probably didn't realize it was genuine (Japan's a basically gunless society) and took a few more steps forward (still smiling), at which point the husband blew him away.
The "kid" was teenager from Japan. He was about maximum-violence "gangsta" age.
As are all the kids I know of that age... (well, DUH!) And when's the last time you saw a Japanese gangsta?
He was an exchange student, so he was moderately clueless about the local customs.
Yeah, local customs like shooting people for knocking on your door.
Like many teenagers in/from Japan at the time he had a bad habit: He would suddenly run at people, yelling and making threatening gestures, then take a picture of their expressions of fear. (A disarmed society is NOT a polite society!)
This is such complete bullshit. Get off the crack, buddy.
It was Halloween. It was after dark.
It was Halloween. It was before dark (late afternoon).
The "kid" and another teenage boy from his host's household showed up on the doorstep of a house and tried the door. When confronted, they claimed they were trying to find a party and gave a different address. They were told they were at the wrong address and to go away.
A few minutes later the householder was disturbed again: They were back, trying the door of the garage. The wife, understandably agitated, called the husband, who confronted them again.
I'm not sure why you put quotation marks around the word "kid". He WAS a kid. And the rest of your bullshit is just total fantasy. They knocked on the door, the wife came out, she panicked (well, they were wearing Halloween costumes, something which must be a real rarity on Halloween) and screamed, and the boy (whose name was Hattori, BTW) tried to calm her by taking a few steps (NOT running) towards her while smiling with his EMPTY hands outspread.
Then the woman's husband came charging out of the house brandishing a
They started to go again. But after a few steps the Japanese student suddenly turned, brandished a small black object, and ran roaring at the householder.
This is a total fabrication. Like I said, get off the crack, asshole.
The killer (NOT murderer!) did indeed get off scott free (and rightly so.) Except, of course, for the expense and risk and stress of the trial. And the stress, for himself and his family, of having killed the "kid". And the stress from the liberal press having a field day with him.
Yeah, real stressful. Still better than being dead, though.
Not to mention the orchestrated letter campaign from people in Japan, calling for the US to ban guns. (I wonder what they'd think of an orchestrated letter campaign in the US calling for Japan to ban knives - especially deadly assault katanas?)
Where are you getting this crap from? What fucking "deadly assault katanas"? You really need to get a grip on reality.
You've got to be careful doing that type of shit though. A few years back here in Ontario there were a COUPLE incidents of swat teams getting the wrong address and going in for bear.
Happens here, too.
Hope it happens to you, so you can feel the effects of living in a gun-ridden society at first hand.
Why bother waiting for the whole Perl interpreter to start up just to convert some line breaks?
$ tr -d '\r' README.linux
Well, it's pretty obvious that the Japanese (actually, the so-called Yamato people) came to Japan from the south, and have strong links with Korea. The "no evidence" thing is total bullshit - there is evidence, but the Kunaicho (the branch of the government responsible for the Imperial Family) keeps burying it, because almost all of it points to Korea as being the birthplace of the Emperor's ancestors, and God knows we couldn't have something like that being brought out into the open... :(
Unfortunately, they don't broadcast PBS in Japan, so I can't watch the program you're talking about...
TRON is still out there. See here. I believe there was a new release of the BTRON OS a month or two ago, which has support for around 130,000 characters...
Well, we all know that psychologists are the bottom-feeders of the scientific world, so I wouldn't bother listening to them too much.
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis in its strong form has been discredited many times, but every time this kind of topic comes up, someone always drags it out of its grave. Please, let it rest in peace.
Just another note. I have studied Linguistics, Pacific and Asian studies and Japanese during my undergraduate degree.
Well, I'd go back and retake your classes, because you obviously didn't learn much the first time round.
English does incorporate new concepts quickly, but this is mainly because it is widely used, requiring such incorporation to remain valid as a tool of communication. However, this is not limited to English; Japanese also does a fairly good job through the use of "gairaigo", which actually forms roughly the same proportion of the language as the equivalent in English does (i.e., the proportion of Old English-based words is rougly equal to the proportion of original Japanese words, rather than those which were taken from China, Portugal, etc.
English retains as many "old words with historical significance" as any other language of reasonable antiquity (including Japanese). Japanese has changed with the times just as much as any other language; try reading a classical Japanese text and you'll see what I mean.
While Japanese and Chinese have large amounts of redundancy in their characters, English has a large amount of redundancy in its vocabulary; take a look at a good thesaurus, and compare the number of words for a particular concept with the number of words for that concept in Japanese (and don't try telling me that "all the English words have different nuances"; so do the different Chinese characters. Just because you can't grasp those nuances doesn't mean that native speakers make no distinction between the different characters.
One last word of advice: Don't be so goddamned arrogant.
Japanese telegraphs and their "morris code" equivalent uses exclusively katakana and is strictly phonetic, just like Japanese Braille.
Radio and telegraphic code would not have carried any of the ambiguity of the written language.
Well, you are mistaken. Orders written in katakana would be many times more ambiguous than orders written in kana-kanji. You'd have to judge every word by context alone, and while that isn't impossible (obviously), it does interfere with communication to some extent.
If you still think you're right, then tell me what this sentence means: "Kisha wa maiasa hayaku kuru ga, kesa wa osokatta".
Well, hang on a moment, I'll tell all these silly Japanese around me that they have to switch to English...
Water is "wai" in Maori. The reason I bring up Maori is because one crazy Japanese linguist has a bee in his bonnet about the word "hole" in Japanese and Maori (which are supposedly both pronounced "ana"), thus proving that the Japanese and Polynesians come from common stock.
Then there's the guy who says that Japanese and Egyptian share common words, so Japanese are descended from the Egyptians... and then there's the other guy who says that Japanese shares some features with Hebrew, proving that one of the Tribes of Israel escaped to Japan (not to mention that Jesus's grave is located in northern Japan - no, really!)
That would be Watashi wa paaru wo tsuka(u|imasu).
Well, to answer Cliff's question, Perl written by a Japanese would look like Ruby. It's a very nice little object-oriented (and I don't mean like OO in Perl) script language that has bindings for several toolkits. See this page for a contrast with other languages.