Classic MacOS is a kludge, on the same order as Windows 3, as an Operating System. Maybe not in terms of 'user interface' but in terms of the underlying OS it is.
Apple's OS developers threw in the towel, when it came to writing a modern multitasking OS. They were only saved by importing in NeXT.
Maybe somebody forgot and left a whole bank of core memory stuck in a storage locker somewhere in a back room. The infamous code sat for years as magnetic domains on said core.
Instead of gutting the core matrix out of the box, putting it in a picture frame and selling it on eBay to some suit (to hang on the wall of his windowed-office) the person who found it actually powered it up.
this situation does not create a competitive advantage to be exploited by competent executives.
Sure it does. A competent executive can spin up a big swirling mass of incompetent executives and make the whole notion of GPL-based development look bad. It's called a FUD campaign. And every time there is a 500+ comment rant session on sites like Slashdot about the GPL, another big puff of the noxious gas gets created and wafts across the websphere.
People outside 'the community' will look at this and remember the big mess that the VA Linux IPO turned into. And be that much more hesitant of anything with the word 'linux' in it. And it will be confusion on their part to react that way. However, there are interests out there with much to gain by spreadind said confusion.
The whole 'open source community,' any time a huge rant about the GPL starts up, ends up acting against their own interest, by reviving yet again another long pedantic discussion about 'what the GPL is' in noisy ways that the unwashed won't understand, but that opponents of the GPL can point to and say 'see what happens when that crowd gets too much to drink?'
NetBSD on the Macintosh SE/30 requires a little MacOS-based loader program to be run on MacOS to boot NetBSD on the SE/30 from. Does this mean that NetBSD is part of MacOS?
There are methods of launching Linux from a Windows/Dos Prompt (i.e. loadlin). Does this mean Linux is part of MS-DOS?
The only difference is that today there is so much competition for jobs that the real full-time copy editors don't usually get a chance to advance until they get more credentialed
As late as Slackware 2.3 there were some 'interesting' security issues with how the distro was rolled out. The installer for Slackware 2.3 still didn't require or even nag the user to establish a root password.
I found this out the fun way when a friend of mine who had been running her new slack install for several weeks sent me an email. I looked at the IP address on the email header (she was on dialup) and decided on a lark to try telneting into her box. No root password! I was logged on as root. I quickly made myself an account on her system, logged onto that, and paged her through it. She was a little mortified that she'd been online, lingering in her usual chat rooms, etc. on a Linux box with a null root password.
Them were the fun days, though, actually. It was easy to throw Linux or NetBSD on a bunch of boxes with castoff ethernet cards (thin-net) and learn TCP/IP on your own set of boxes. Everything was hanging open so you could easily figure out how to telnet around, bring up X apps across the net, establish NFS shares, throw up Samba, etc. It's all tight as a sphinchter these days, but then so many people immediately face the Internet immediately on new installs these days, plus Linux is well known enough now that even undesirables like the script kiddies are crawling around.
I just ran nmap against my 'Doze 2000 machine here, which isn't a totally 'default' configuration, but pretty much just has the plain generic services running that Microsoft and 'Doze Update have decreed are the norm. I seldom if ever connect to the internet with that machine, and it's buried enough behind two NAT filters to be effectively firewalled.
It says ports 135, 139, 445, and 1025 are open.
Windows 95 was not a braindead abomination. It was and is a shiney kludge, that proves useful in all kinds of settings, even today. I program PICs with an old laptop running 95, and occasionally hack around with MASM for fun.
The current 'doze kludges are far far worse. If they were 'braindead abominations' it would be a relief, to be frank.
Yes, but you know that monkeys need their buttons to click. I have a button right here, incidentally. It's created by a line in my ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc config file, and it fires off xterm -e vi/etc/rc.defaults when I click it. What could be simpler???
I went to pack.google.com, figuring that since I have a gmail account I am on good terms with those folks and could join up and use some of this cool stuff.
The window in Seamonkey on my NetBSD machine came up saying 'Google Pack requires Windows XP or Vista'. It also provided a friendly link telling me where Google Pack for the Mac could be found. WTF?? They don't even know how to identify a browser string and COMPLETELY cut me out? I maintain one machine here with Windows 2000 on it, which should be enough, one would think. When did Google turn into an operation to promote 'upgrades to XP'???
I bought StarOffice in the 'retail box' format back when it was distributed in the US by Red Hat. That was back in about 1998 or so. I still have that thick manual somewhere here, and the installation CD which I'm sure will no long run on a modern Linux. It was somewhat more than $70 at the time. I also used to have ApplixWare for Linux, a version bundled and sold as a retail-box item from Caldera.
I preferred ApplixWare at the time, and wish the Applix Office suite was still available.
I'm not so certain that the planet has enough time left to get it into a tool using state, and off planet.
What does that have to do with anything?
The whole 'off planet' thing is just teevee shows that you've plainly watched too many of. Try to focus your concerns on what is here, and now, in reality.
The concept of the 'real journalist' is just a modern construct, however. Up until the late 20th century, people reported on the news and they rose through the ranks through news organizations. There was no select cadre of 'journalists' who were professionally trained to 'report the news.' Many of the historic classic 'reporters' started out in the news industry as copy boys and clerks.
These days, you flunk out of calculus, decide you can't be an engineer, and the English department is too snooty (you'd have to READ BOOKS and all that awful stuff), so you transfer to J-School. And become part of the 'News Elite.'
Not really. In many ways, the government is blundering blustering big bureaucracy. There can and are 'operators' within that big mass of chaos, but often enough problems or issues regarding government can be simply ascribed to sheer bureaucratic incomptence.
You still burn your redbook music to MP3? The storage media is cheap these days. If you MUST keep it on your computer, rip it to unadulturated WAV files. Get out of the stone age of cramped, compressed audio, already.
the hate for hate's sake between some (and I stress some) Linux and MS users helps nothing.
Actually, anything that keeps that group of people off on the side battling each other in their chosen little advocacy 'arenas' is good for the rest of us.
In classic USENET lore, the alt.os.*.advocacy newsgroups were a dumping ground to push the tards onto so everyone else could hold grown up discussions.
Thence we see one of the real problems with Slashdot. Where to park those folks so they're out of the way.
I remember my first Linux install. On a then-current 486-33 (well, it wasn't the 'leading edge' platform of the day but at least a contender). I could run five or six instances of the X11 version of Doom II (or the Quake wad) simultaneously on the same box. People in the gaming community were often still struggling to get ONE instance of Doom II running on 'doze/DOS boxes.
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Classic MacOS is a kludge, on the same order as Windows 3, as an Operating System. Maybe not in terms of 'user interface' but in terms of the underlying OS it is.
Apple's OS developers threw in the towel, when it came to writing a modern multitasking OS. They were only saved by importing in NeXT.
I could load BasiliskII or Bochs if I want a 'MacOS or MS-DOS' interface. Isn't that what the 'Linux' that runs in this case provides?
Maybe somebody forgot and left a whole bank of core memory stuck in a storage locker somewhere in a back room. The infamous code sat for years as magnetic domains on said core.
Instead of gutting the core matrix out of the box, putting it in a picture frame and selling it on eBay to some suit (to hang on the wall of his windowed-office) the person who found it actually powered it up.
this situation does not create a competitive advantage to be exploited by competent executives.
Sure it does. A competent executive can spin up a big swirling mass of incompetent executives and make the whole notion of GPL-based development look bad. It's called a FUD campaign. And every time there is a 500+ comment rant session on sites like Slashdot about the GPL, another big puff of the noxious gas gets created and wafts across the websphere.
People outside 'the community' will look at this and remember the big mess that the VA Linux IPO turned into. And be that much more hesitant of anything with the word 'linux' in it. And it will be confusion on their part to react that way. However, there are interests out there with much to gain by spreadind said confusion.
The whole 'open source community,' any time a huge rant about the GPL starts up, ends up acting against their own interest, by reviving yet again another long pedantic discussion about 'what the GPL is' in noisy ways that the unwashed won't understand, but that opponents of the GPL can point to and say 'see what happens when that crowd gets too much to drink?'
No, it's LaCrosse players that get violated.
NetBSD on the Macintosh SE/30 requires a little MacOS-based loader program to be run on MacOS to boot NetBSD on the SE/30 from. Does this mean that NetBSD is part of MacOS?
There are methods of launching Linux from a Windows/Dos Prompt (i.e. loadlin). Does this mean Linux is part of MS-DOS?
Thank goodness Apple doesn't belittle NeXT, because they weren't smart enough to write their own operating system, either.
Oh, wait! NeXT runs on Mach....
It's not necessarily an either/or proposition.
I use Wikipedia, as I use the Internet, for geeky computer stuff and electronics tech, tools, and info.
I can't imagine ever taking it that seriously that I would use it for mainstream 'non-nerd' stuff.
The only difference is that today there is so much competition for jobs that the real full-time copy editors don't usually get a chance to advance until they get more credentialed
Loud Knocking On Door
Sir! May we see your credentials??
It isn't the default install if you've enabled httpd.
But why would you use OpenBSD as a web server?
Microsoft doesn't even seem to want anybody thinking about MASM any longer...
As late as Slackware 2.3 there were some 'interesting' security issues with how the distro was rolled out. The installer for Slackware 2.3 still didn't require or even nag the user to establish a root password.
I found this out the fun way when a friend of mine who had been running her new slack install for several weeks sent me an email. I looked at the IP address on the email header (she was on dialup) and decided on a lark to try telneting into her box. No root password! I was logged on as root. I quickly made myself an account on her system, logged onto that, and paged her through it. She was a little mortified that she'd been online, lingering in her usual chat rooms, etc. on a Linux box with a null root password.
Them were the fun days, though, actually. It was easy to throw Linux or NetBSD on a bunch of boxes with castoff ethernet cards (thin-net) and learn TCP/IP on your own set of boxes. Everything was hanging open so you could easily figure out how to telnet around, bring up X apps across the net, establish NFS shares, throw up Samba, etc. It's all tight as a sphinchter these days, but then so many people immediately face the Internet immediately on new installs these days, plus Linux is well known enough now that even undesirables like the script kiddies are crawling around.
I just ran nmap against my 'Doze 2000 machine here, which isn't a totally 'default' configuration, but pretty much just has the plain generic services running that Microsoft and 'Doze Update have decreed are the norm. I seldom if ever connect to the internet with that machine, and it's buried enough behind two NAT filters to be effectively firewalled.
It says ports 135, 139, 445, and 1025 are open.
Windows 95 was not a braindead abomination. It was and is a shiney kludge, that proves useful in all kinds of settings, even today. I program PICs with an old laptop running 95, and occasionally hack around with MASM for fun.
The current 'doze kludges are far far worse. If they were 'braindead abominations' it would be a relief, to be frank.
Yes, but you know that monkeys need their buttons to click. I have a button right here, incidentally. It's created by a line in my ~/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc config file, and it fires off xterm -e vi /etc/rc.defaults when I click it. What could be simpler???
I went to pack.google.com, figuring that since I have a gmail account I am on good terms with those folks and could join up and use some of this cool stuff.
The window in Seamonkey on my NetBSD machine came up saying 'Google Pack requires Windows XP or Vista'. It also provided a friendly link telling me where Google Pack for the Mac could be found. WTF?? They don't even know how to identify a browser string and COMPLETELY cut me out? I maintain one machine here with Windows 2000 on it, which should be enough, one would think. When did Google turn into an operation to promote 'upgrades to XP'???
I bought StarOffice in the 'retail box' format back when it was distributed in the US by Red Hat. That was back in about 1998 or so. I still have that thick manual somewhere here, and the installation CD which I'm sure will no long run on a modern Linux. It was somewhat more than $70 at the time. I also used to have ApplixWare for Linux, a version bundled and sold as a retail-box item from Caldera.
I preferred ApplixWare at the time, and wish the Applix Office suite was still available.
I'm not so certain that the planet has enough time left to get it into a tool using state, and off planet.
What does that have to do with anything?
The whole 'off planet' thing is just teevee shows that you've plainly watched too many of. Try to focus your concerns on what is here, and now, in reality.
I'd start buying stock in environmental clean up technology now -- in a few decades their entire country will resemble the Love Canal disaster.
So, you advocate that western investors should sink a lot of money into environmental cleanup R&D so that the Chinese can steal it in a few decades?
The concept of the 'real journalist' is just a modern construct, however. Up until the late 20th century, people reported on the news and they rose through the ranks through news organizations. There was no select cadre of 'journalists' who were professionally trained to 'report the news.' Many of the historic classic 'reporters' started out in the news industry as copy boys and clerks.
These days, you flunk out of calculus, decide you can't be an engineer, and the English department is too snooty (you'd have to READ BOOKS and all that awful stuff), so you transfer to J-School. And become part of the 'News Elite.'
Thank goodness that whole sheen is melting away.
Not really. In many ways, the government is blundering blustering big bureaucracy. There can and are 'operators' within that big mass of chaos, but often enough problems or issues regarding government can be simply ascribed to sheer bureaucratic incomptence.
You still burn your redbook music to MP3? The storage media is cheap these days. If you MUST keep it on your computer, rip it to unadulturated WAV files. Get out of the stone age of cramped, compressed audio, already.
Well, it should be a given for us to accept that Microsoft marketing types are gonna fein excitement about 'the product.'
the hate for hate's sake between some (and I stress some) Linux and MS users helps nothing.
Actually, anything that keeps that group of people off on the side battling each other in their chosen little advocacy 'arenas' is good for the rest of us.
In classic USENET lore, the alt.os.*.advocacy newsgroups were a dumping ground to push the tards onto so everyone else could hold grown up discussions.
Thence we see one of the real problems with Slashdot. Where to park those folks so they're out of the way.
I remember my first Linux install. On a then-current 486-33 (well, it wasn't the 'leading edge' platform of the day but at least a contender). I could run five or six instances of the X11 version of Doom II (or the Quake wad) simultaneously on the same box. People in the gaming community were often still struggling to get ONE instance of Doom II running on 'doze/DOS boxes.