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Gmail vs Pine
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1. Right now I have 2.7GB storage on GMail.
Right now, I have 200+ GB of storage available to Pine. Not that I'll ever need it, but it is there. a) But I need that 2.7 GB for all my pr0n:)
2. I don't need a client with GMail.
I don't need a client with Pine -- Pine is the client, and it runs on my home machine, no matter where I access it from. Which reduces the client-side needs considerably. All I need is a shell of a few K in any computer system. You, on the other hand, require a multi-megabyte browser that supports client-side operations. b) My home PC is powered by a hamster running on a treadmill - very eco-friendly. Unfortunately,
every now and then a hamster has a stroke, and the PC turns off. I need 24/7 access to email,
and I get that through Gmail.
3. I can access my GMail from home.
I can access Pine from home c) I can access either unless the hampster has a stroke.
4. I can access my GMail from work.
I can access Pine from work. d) No hampster powered PC's at work, so I can access Gmail all the time
5. I can access my GMail from my phone.
I can access Pine from my phone. And my PSP. And my Palm. And my old Amiga. And my Mac. My old 64k OS9/6809 system. And my various other old systems that don't support Java and other client-side technologies. And any *nix system on the planet. I look forward to being able to check my email from my PS3, when they finally get it out the door. All I need is a telnet or (preferably) secure shell, and as they're saying it is linux based.... done deal, probably. I have a dial-up connection on my linux machine that allows me to log in from the oldest, lamest modem I am ever likely to run into. And yes, from there... I can run Pine. d) I do not have that many friends sending email to me.:( I do not need to see email on my
electronic computerized toilet imported from Japan. Besides, I do not like to be disturbed
while I take a "most honorable dump".
6. GMail is yet to allow a piece of spam into my inbox.
Pine can take advantage of all manner of cool and innovative spam filters and other kinds of filters. Bayesian, white/blacklist based, custom, you name it. There's no spam in my Pine mailbox at all. Also, there are no ads. You, on the other hand, have Google providing ad content all the time you use GMail. Which is not a lot different from constantly being spammed, at least, to me. e) Most of the spam I get is for pr0n, and I like it. So does the current hampster; that must
be the reason why all thost hampsters are having strokes:-0
Cool. You have a few websites. GoDaddy.com must be proud.
Tired of the industrial revolution debate. Tough shit. Without the governmental reforms, there would be no information revolution. You should have paid attention in high shool instead of running BBS's.
So CD's are not entertainment? Why release them. How about this model - no CD's for the public, only the radio industries get CD's. Public domain my ass. Bands perform music for cash, booze, and babes - and I am not sure if you know anything about two out of the three.
I could go on and debate your bullshit point by point, but I do not have time for a clown like you. Have fun in fantasy land, just don't complain when your buzz wears off and reality hits you in the face.
Pure capitalism is fine and dandy in fantasy land, but you forget the nature of human beings. While some people have good intentions, many people are evil at heart.
Look at the industrial revolution. Children working in factories instead of attending school, people working in factories with deplorable and hazardous working conditions, employers paying people below living wages, employers hiring illegal aliens (still happening today).
Sorry that you do not want to pay for music. Tough shit. Who finances bands? Why do you think bands are now charging in excess of $50 to $75 for concerts? They have to because the do not make any money off CD sales. Even in the pre-recorded music days, top performers rarely performed for free. How would you like it if someone showed up at your house brandishing automatic riffles and told you to get lost or get a 30 round clip fired into your body? What if they justified their actions all in the name of the pursuit of profits?
That is pure capitalism. Without the protections of the government you would probably be just like the one of the children of the industrial revolution - working in a sweatshop factory and occasional watching a co-worker falling into the machinery and wondering why you have no opportunities in life.
Moste of the people quoted in the article are from the Midwest - Chicago, Milwaukee, Bloomfield Hills (Mich). They quote one graduate from Santa Clara, and he graduated from University of Illinois. Is he now living in Chicago and looking for a job?
This article would have more credibility if the writer interviewed people across the country, or at least compared differences across the country.
Employees need better communications skills? No shit sherlock! It does not matter if their job is IT, Marketing, Accounting, or picking up trash in the parking lot. Importing people from India or China is not going to solve that problem. Most of those people have poor communication skills in English.
The whole crux is money and power. If you move into management, then you can control who you hire and fire.
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Right now, I have 200+ GB of storage available to Pine. Not that I'll ever need it, but it is there.
a) But I need that 2.7 GB for all my pr0n
2. I don't need a client with GMail.
I don't need a client with Pine -- Pine is the client, and it runs on my home machine, no matter where I access it from. Which reduces the client-side needs considerably. All I need is a shell of a few K in any computer system. You, on the other hand, require a multi-megabyte browser that supports client-side operations.
b) My home PC is powered by a hamster running on a treadmill - very eco-friendly. Unfortunately, every now and then a hamster has a stroke, and the PC turns off. I need 24/7 access to email, and I get that through Gmail.
3. I can access my GMail from home.
I can access Pine from home
c) I can access either unless the hampster has a stroke.
4. I can access my GMail from work.
I can access Pine from work.
d) No hampster powered PC's at work, so I can access Gmail all the time
5. I can access my GMail from my phone. :( I do not need to see email on my
electronic computerized toilet imported from Japan. Besides, I do not like to be disturbed
while I take a "most honorable dump".
I can access Pine from my phone. And my PSP. And my Palm. And my old Amiga. And my Mac. My old 64k OS9/6809 system. And my various other old systems that don't support Java and other client-side technologies. And any *nix system on the planet. I look forward to being able to check my email from my PS3, when they finally get it out the door. All I need is a telnet or (preferably) secure shell, and as they're saying it is linux based.... done deal, probably. I have a dial-up connection on my linux machine that allows me to log in from the oldest, lamest modem I am ever likely to run into. And yes, from there... I can run Pine.
d) I do not have that many friends sending email to me.
6. GMail is yet to allow a piece of spam into my inbox. :-0
Pine can take advantage of all manner of cool and innovative spam filters and other kinds of filters. Bayesian, white/blacklist based, custom, you name it. There's no spam in my Pine mailbox at all. Also, there are no ads. You, on the other hand, have Google providing ad content all the time you use GMail. Which is not a lot different from constantly being spammed, at least, to me.
e) Most of the spam I get is for pr0n, and I like it. So does the current hampster; that must be the reason why all thost hampsters are having strokes
Cool. You have a few websites. GoDaddy.com must be proud.
Tired of the industrial revolution debate. Tough shit. Without the governmental reforms, there would be no information revolution. You should have paid attention in high shool instead of running BBS's.
So CD's are not entertainment? Why release them. How about this model - no CD's for the public, only the radio industries get CD's. Public domain my ass. Bands perform music for cash, booze, and babes - and I am not sure if you know anything about two out of the three.
I could go on and debate your bullshit point by point, but I do not have time for a clown like you. Have fun in fantasy land, just don't complain when your buzz wears off and reality hits you in the face.
Pure capitalism is fine and dandy in fantasy land, but you forget the nature of human beings. While some people have good intentions, many people are evil at heart.
Look at the industrial revolution. Children working in factories instead of attending school, people working in factories with deplorable and hazardous working conditions, employers paying people below living wages, employers hiring illegal aliens (still happening today).
Sorry that you do not want to pay for music. Tough shit. Who finances bands? Why do you think bands are now charging in excess of $50 to $75 for concerts? They have to because the do not make any money off CD sales. Even in the pre-recorded music days, top performers rarely performed for free. How would you like it if someone showed up at your house brandishing automatic riffles and told you to get lost or get a 30 round clip fired into your body? What if they justified their actions all in the name of the pursuit of profits?
That is pure capitalism. Without the protections of the government you would probably be just like the one of the children of the industrial revolution - working in a sweatshop factory and occasional watching a co-worker falling into the machinery and wondering why you have no opportunities in life.
Moste of the people quoted in the article are from the Midwest - Chicago, Milwaukee, Bloomfield Hills (Mich). They quote one graduate from Santa Clara, and he graduated from University of Illinois. Is he now living in Chicago and looking for a job?
This article would have more credibility if the writer interviewed people across the country, or at least compared differences across the country.
Employees need better communications skills? No shit sherlock! It does not matter if their job is IT, Marketing, Accounting, or picking up trash in the parking lot. Importing people from India or China is not going to solve that problem. Most of those people have poor communication skills in English.
The whole crux is money and power. If you move into management, then you can control who you hire and fire.
Nothing to see here, move along.