Windows clustering works as advertised for the most part, but is expensive. Some exceptions include heavily loaded machine pulling from fiber channel arrays and NAS. Both of the network attached devices seem to have some problems. Driver issues? Don't know.
Haven't seen the reported "bsod round table" where one machine crashes, shortly followed by another and another. The problems we have seen is a single machine bsods, and the other machines in the cluster don't realize it's down.
If your already in the MS camp, it will work, it look at other solutions. I think they will be more cost effective.
Almost 1/3 of the SPAM sourcees I've encountered recently have been chinese. My ids LOGS regular ping sweeps and other probes coming from chinese held IP addresses. Chinese alerts account for about 24% of the IDS alerts. Some of these sweeps even originate in chinese government offices (since blocked because I'm tired of HUGE ping packets in my network from the beaurearu of statistics)
Considering the crap thats been spewing out of Chinese controlled IP space, I wouldn't be adverse to some reverse censorship. i.e. no chinsese IP's allowed in my network. The Chinese may not like what the NET has to offer their people, but they sure seem to dish out pretty silly stuff for the rest of us (My penis is much to big NOW, no more PLEASE).
I wonder if there was an easy way to blackhole all of mainland China? I wonder if the Chinese would consider THAT censorship?
I'm not saying that anyone should do this mind you, I'm just saying what goes around eventually comes around.
"....we had to attack it [KDE] to make people aware of the threat"
The attacks were vehement, nasty and for the most part unwarranted. I never saw KDE as a "threat" and considering it a threat did nothing but waste a lot of energy (IMHO). Especially considering where the software was headed and the fact that EVERYONE KNEW that QT would have an open source license eventually.
While I endorse the idea of some interoperability I tend to take a step back and look for other motives. Members of the KDE team have long tried to get some interoperability between the 2 desktops and were repeatedly rebuffed. It's a nice idea, but considering some of the mudslinging thats gone on over the past few years, I'm with holding judgment.
Hopefully the axe is buried, considering there are some admin's out there running open relays because it was the right thing to do in 1990, I expect to see it dug up a few more times. That's the problem with religious wars where you unfairly vilify the enemy it makes it hard to work with them when they are on your side. I'm glad some people are starting to consider the big picture.
How long will it be before we will outlaw children using their thumb and index finger to make a "gun" to play cops & robbers? Oh yeah, a child was suspended for school for that already.
If guns (and therefore video games, TV and movies that depict guns) are the root of our violence problems in america why the hell didn't my fathers generation kill each other at record rates? Have you SEEN this roy rogers guy? He carries a gun and used it several times! How about that show gunsmoke? EVERYONE carried a gun, and someone got shot in EVERY episode! Not like todays "Charlies Angels" where none of the heroes are allowed to use guns. It wouldn't be PC, and god knows that if Cameron Diaz used a firearm in a movie I might go Columbine on your ass!
I remember a frontline article that compared the affects of media on young people to a feedback loop. What our PC culture accepts as normal is so narrow in it's focus that normal behavior that has been in children and teenagers since the dawn of time is now somehow so aberrant that you have to drug you kid out of his mind
If society as a whole can't stand simple age appropriate behavior, we are all in for a rough ride. Outlawing video games is just a silly step that some very misguided people are taking for political expediency. If you truly want to stop the violence you have to start early you have to
1. Have both parents involved (which is hard if they both have to work 70 hours a week to make ends meet. Some parents are additionally pretty heavily medicated at that!)
2. You must have a have school system that actually cares about something besides how good the football team is and how fashionable dressed the students are. Not all student problems can be taken care of with a "magic pill"
3. Have a society that kicks silly politicians out on their can when the pull these knee jerk reactions
Your right, they do provide information. I actually pull the IP addresses and then block them. The offending mailserver thinks I'm dead and holds the mail in queue. I take the IP out after a pre-determined time. If I get another double bounce, back in it goes. Doing this caused a few mailservers (open relays) that were spamming me to stop responding to port 25.
http://aip.sourceforge.net/spam/
I'll put the scripts there later tonight for those interested.
They use some valid e-mail addresses now. For instance one spam moron used sales@very_popular_domain_america.com for a return address. Let me assure you america.com has NOTHING to do with the trying to help you grow your penis. As for tracking the spam, the originating IP address was in China, the relay was in Eastern Europe. Yeah track them down and sue them. Good luck.
Works OK, but SPAMMERS are getting more and more sophisticated. We are starting to see From addresses that change. For instance, on a recent spam we saw the message change on every attempt to send. The first spams came from makemoney4u@domain.com, then next batch where makemoney4u@daomin1.com, and so forth. We have also seen the username change and the domain change!
This point has been made before, but needs to be reiterated, where did the spammer get the e-mail address from? Remember the author said that she only used the e-mail address to buy a book from borders. Did borders, yahoo or hotmail(especially hotmail) violate their own privacy policies? If we look at common SPAM sources such as pm0.net, flowgo et al you will find that they violate their own privacy policies all the time. Published policies state that you will be removed from any list (try it sometime, good luck) the truth is a lot different. Perhaps the spammers used a dictionary attack.
Those of us in the trenches are seeing more and more of this. A spammer picks a domain and then starts sending mail to that domain, starting at 11111@foo.com working their way up to zzzzzzzzzz@foo.com. They usually bounce it off from an open relay or the originating source is from China. (Jesus I get crap loads of viruses from china, spam from china and network probes every f**king day from China, just aWTF is up with that?) So my mail server has to handle thousands of bounces. Add to that the return address is often faked. The bounce then bounces, adding more load to my server, and load to the innocent victims server (like all the faked addresses from domains like AMERICA.COM or CNN.COM) If the IP is in a common RBL I at least have a small chance of catching it. I've taken to blocking the IP that contacts my mail server with any double bounce for a period of 4 hours. This alone has reduced server load by several percent.
Almost every on-line policy I have ever seen has the little line added that says "We reserve the right to change this without noticve, and without informing you" in effect. I wonder if borders, yahoo or hotmail changed their policy and just didn't inform us.
I say the only way to get spammers back its to make them pay. If they give you an 800 number, call up and give them some information "Hello, recording device, this is Jack Meoff at 6969 killspam lane, yes I'd like some information on your service, my number is (Give non 800 number from other spam). IF enough people do that then it will be cost prohibitive for them. Keep talking until recorder hangs up (more expensive, make the use 800 numbers not profitable and real phone numbers can be easier to track, at least in the US)
Here is a little fantasy from someone that has to defend against these morons. Nothing like getting 50,000 e-mails to a domain that only has 2k accounts on it. My favorite solution, of course, I'm not endorsing this or suggesting you do it, but with a real phone number and a real address a baseball bat and 2 friends is the best answer to the spam solution.
As Big Brother starts to collate that data I expect some interesting patterns will emerge. The famous "bought incubus CD -->probable anachristDO NOT issue that speeding ticket, you'll be embarassed on court!--"
It will be interesting to see what type of metric this data produces. Now if the data is flawed then it's not much use to anyone. I can't wait! I guess I have to start living with 2 Iranian women, purchase lots of ski gear (here in sunny FL) and start reading more ancient druid text.
The next TRUE geek test. Just how far away from the curve can you get. Just how confusing is it for Big Brother to pigeon hole you?
Compaq's (formerly DEC) C compiler for alpha's have always been excellent and far ahead of GCC. The problem is that a lot of compilers (we haven't tested the intel yet) won't compile all the code that you may want or need. In the *NIX env. GCC seems to provide the highest level of compatibility over a wide variety of platforms n(SUN, AXI, BSD, Linux, Tru-64, Windows, et al).
Until there is only one chip left to support (Intel is fast working on it, with the support of turncoats Compaq, HP and others) GCC will be a viable option. GCC is a great "cross platform" compiler that works for much of the current written open soruce code base. You can get that compiler to work for many different OSs and archs.
In the end, remember apache wasn't the fastest web server, but it was the "most correct" and it was free! It really doesn't matter how well your C compiler works if it won't compile your code or run on your system.
Given the nature of how DNS works, and how the root servers are run, how can ICANN guarantee anything? (it can't) If they do provide some sort of guarantee then haven't they added a financial incentive for someone to DOS the root servers?
The Europeans are asking for something that cannot be delivered (currently), and if they get it the chances increase that someone will DOS the servers for some financial gain. (i.e. your server went down, I now don't have to pay you x dollars). If I was ICANN I wouldn't want to sign an agreement. It may be time for ICANN to change the way it does business, and the "ad hoc" nature that the root servers are maintained may have to change. DNS the protocol itself needs to be very carefully looked at as well.
Sad isn't it, here is the VERY thing all those "privacy people" keep screaming about. The thing that MS says won't happen. The idea should chill us all to the core, after all with XP released it's just a matter of time before a magority of american's will have a "passport". Will it be reported by any big news organizations? Will it make front page (it should).
In the end I guess I best move to the bahamas and start ordering lots of neat things with all these new credit card numbers that magically appeared in my hotmail account.
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Quick question/comment. On my win2k server any install of the 6 series of netscape causes the following things to happen (every single time)
1. part way through the install I will get some random error, usually "disk problem" or "virtual memory problem" (this with 512 mb of memory and 1 gig of pageing available and running almost nothing else during install!!) Disk check reveals no problems
2. Just before I reboot Zonealarm will beep about some winders program wanting to contact a microsoft site (which I allow, haven't hauled out the packet sniffer to see exactly what is being sent when server phones home)
3. Reboot and running netscape does NOTHING. I get a pretty icon and then it goes away. Not log file/event entry.
So anyone else have this expereince? Just curious before I goto check again and haul out the packet sniffer.....Is it me or does my Win2k server just not like netscape? Is Billy boy up to his old tricks again? Jesus, I just wanted to look at the new netscape for gosh sakes.
Usually terrorists have some political goal. Even Anarchists have a goal. What exactly is the political motivation for l33t h@x0r from albania that wrote nimda?
Oh yeah, piss Bill Gates off and get more boxes to DOS yahoo with. Damn silly of me not to see this political movement. I wonder do they have a PAC (political action comity) yet?
You can go live in the UK and get your nice unhappy face photographed a thousand times a day. You could go live in the UK where certain books are banned because ??(Add inane reason here). You can go live in the UK where the ability to protect yourself with a firearm has been taken away by the good Government.
Every country (and I've been to quite a few) has limitations on peoples freedom somehow. As a modern society we are fast approaching big brother if we aren't careful (UK has had big brother for a while hasn't it?).
Instead of being "Disgusted" perhaps you should pay an attorney to help "wage the war". You know we still have the ability to change the law and it has yet to be constitutionally tested. With all the "open source" companies out there I'm suprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for damages to the "open source product" caused by the RIAA.
Oh yeah, and next time there is an election, vote.
What's your current experience with US law enforcement like? I know that you were harassed for some time just for developing PGP, are you still harassed? How do you feel about the US law enforcement in general?
I know a lot of questions, but I'm curious to know how you feel after all that you have been through.
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Ok I'll bite, after all you are comparing me to the President of the United States. Not a comment to be taken lightly.
Ever heard of Walt Whiteman? His grammer was awful. His language was considered sub-par and many an enlightened person considered his work rubbish. Those enlightened people are long forgotten, but Mr. Whiteman's work lives on. In fact I recall a previous US president gives a copy of "Leaves of Grass" to his girlfriends. (I'm no Walt Whiteman, nor am I implying such. I'm pointing out that content and ideas relayed are what's important, especially in such an informal place as/.)
So, when you originally are challenging the reader to think of something "intelligent" before replying, we are to presume that you put your full intelligence into the question?
Shouldn't you have said "when you originally challenged the reader...."? Isn't this sentence considered an overly verbose sentence (or whatever your English teacher calls these things)?
Aren't posts about grammer instead of the topic stupid, idiodic and pointless?
Pay attention now sparky; I'm going to rephrase the question, and let us see if you can follow.
For those that missed out The question I asked was "Should the open source community try and copy or imitate the.NET initiative?"
What I was hoping for was some sort of semi-thought out response along the lines of "Yes, the open source community needs to or should develop a.NET because X Y Z" or "No the open source community shouldn't because of P D Q".
The purpose of language is to communicate ideas or concepts. Did you understand what I said? Did you think about it? Not everyone at slashdot is a native English speaker (and WHICH version of English are we supposed to learn anyway?) I would think the question that was asked is more important than how I asked it.
If you understood what I was getting at then why can't you comment? I love your bitchy attitude, PLEASE don't think about what was asked,EVER. Do try and rip the questioner a new one for not dotting his i's and crossing his T's. Thinking about the question is obviously a too great a strain.
Perhaps next time make an intelligent comment on the question ASKED and then in a PS suggest a different language usage.
Should the open source community be trying to copy the ".NET inititative" or should they try to come up with something different? Let that question sink in a bit and get back to me when you have intelligent commentary.
> Would this sum be more that experienced admin salary?
I have noticed over the years that what you are paid is not necessarily what you are worth. A skilled amin may actually be cheaper than the FUD spreading "Uber-Admin" who just got his MCSE and is demanding 70k a year. The question is if your organisation already has an admin that is capable, then it may make good financial sense to jump to Linux.
To be honest this descion will require some thought and a good deal of review. It's NOT a panecea!! and I'm not suggesting it is for everyone. BUT I am finding more and more Linux users and admins hiding in cubicles all over the place;)
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If your already in the MS camp, it will work, it look at other solutions. I think they will be more cost effective.
should be "If your already in the MS camp, it will work, if you are not I would look at other solutions. I think they will be more cost effective."
Windows clustering works as advertised for the most part, but is expensive. Some exceptions include heavily loaded machine pulling from fiber channel arrays and NAS. Both of the network attached devices seem to have some problems. Driver issues? Don't know.
Haven't seen the reported "bsod round table" where one machine crashes, shortly followed by another and another. The problems we have seen is a single machine bsods, and the other machines in the cluster don't realize it's down.
If your already in the MS camp, it will work, it look at other solutions. I think they will be more cost effective.
What the hell are you trying to say?
Almost 1/3 of the SPAM sourcees I've encountered recently have been chinese. My ids LOGS regular ping sweeps and other probes coming from chinese held IP addresses. Chinese alerts account for about 24% of the IDS alerts. Some of these sweeps even originate in chinese government offices (since blocked because I'm tired of HUGE ping packets in my network from the beaurearu of statistics)
Considering the crap thats been spewing out of Chinese controlled IP space, I wouldn't be adverse to some reverse censorship. i.e. no chinsese IP's allowed in my network. The Chinese may not like what the NET has to offer their people, but they sure seem to dish out pretty silly stuff for the rest of us (My penis is much to big NOW, no more PLEASE).
I wonder if there was an easy way to blackhole all of mainland China? I wonder if the Chinese would consider THAT censorship?
I'm not saying that anyone should do this mind you, I'm just saying what goes around eventually comes around.
"....we had to attack it [KDE] to make people aware of the threat"
The attacks were vehement, nasty and for the most part unwarranted. I never saw KDE as a "threat" and considering it a threat did nothing but waste a lot of energy (IMHO). Especially considering where the software was headed and the fact that EVERYONE KNEW that QT would have an open source license eventually.
While I endorse the idea of some interoperability I tend to take a step back and look for other motives. Members of the KDE team have long tried to get some interoperability between the 2 desktops and were repeatedly rebuffed. It's a nice idea, but considering some of the mudslinging thats gone on over the past few years, I'm with holding judgment.
Hopefully the axe is buried, considering there are some admin's out there running open relays because it was the right thing to do in 1990, I expect to see it dug up a few more times. That's the problem with religious wars where you unfairly vilify the enemy it makes it hard to work with them when they are on your side. I'm glad some people are starting to consider the big picture.
How long will it be before we will outlaw children using their thumb and index finger to make a "gun" to play cops & robbers? Oh yeah, a child was suspended for school for that already.
If guns (and therefore video games, TV and movies that depict guns) are the root of our violence problems in america why the hell didn't my fathers generation kill each other at record rates? Have you SEEN this roy rogers guy? He carries a gun and used it several times! How about that show gunsmoke? EVERYONE carried a gun, and someone got shot in EVERY episode! Not like todays "Charlies Angels" where none of the heroes are allowed to use guns. It wouldn't be PC, and god knows that if Cameron Diaz used a firearm in a movie I might go Columbine on your ass!
I remember a frontline article that compared the affects of media on young people to a feedback loop. What our PC culture accepts as normal is so narrow in it's focus that normal behavior that has been in children and teenagers since the dawn of time is now somehow so aberrant that you have to drug you kid out of his mind
If society as a whole can't stand simple age appropriate behavior, we are all in for a rough ride. Outlawing video games is just a silly step that some very misguided people are taking for political expediency. If you truly want to stop the violence you have to start early you have to
1. Have both parents involved (which is hard if they both have to work 70 hours a week to make ends meet. Some parents are additionally pretty heavily medicated at that!)
2. You must have a have school system that actually cares about something besides how good the football team is and how fashionable dressed the students are. Not all student problems can be taken care of with a "magic pill"
3. Have a society that kicks silly politicians out on their can when the pull these knee jerk reactions
I don't hold out much hope
Your right, they do provide information. I actually pull the IP addresses and then block them. The offending mailserver thinks I'm dead and holds the mail in queue. I take the IP out after a pre-determined time. If I get another double bounce, back in it goes. Doing this caused a few mailservers (open relays) that were spamming me to stop responding to port 25.
http://aip.sourceforge.net/spam/
I'll put the scripts there later tonight for those interested.
They use some valid e-mail addresses now. For instance one spam moron used sales@very_popular_domain_america.com for a return address. Let me assure you america.com has NOTHING to do with the trying to help you grow your penis. As for tracking the spam, the originating IP address was in China, the relay was in Eastern Europe. Yeah track them down and sue them. Good luck.
Straight from the article : MS says "...is not intended to force upgrades on customers."
This is the same team that told the DOJ that MS isn't a monopoly and if they were they wouldn't do anythign illegal. Yeah I believe them, don't you?
Didn't we already give MS this right when we D/L and install IE? How many times to I have to agree to the non-privacy of my computer!!
Works OK, but SPAMMERS are getting more and more sophisticated. We are starting to see From addresses that change. For instance, on a recent spam we saw the message change on every attempt to send. The first spams came from makemoney4u@domain.com, then next batch where makemoney4u@daomin1.com, and so forth. We have also seen the username change and the domain change!
I suggest baseball bats as an effective solution.
This point has been made before, but needs to be reiterated, where did the spammer get the e-mail address from? Remember the author said that she only used the e-mail address to buy a book from borders. Did borders, yahoo or hotmail(especially hotmail) violate their own privacy policies? If we look at common SPAM sources such as pm0.net, flowgo et al you will find that they violate their own privacy policies all the time. Published policies state that you will be removed from any list (try it sometime, good luck) the truth is a lot different. Perhaps the spammers used a dictionary attack.
Those of us in the trenches are seeing more and more of this. A spammer picks a domain and then starts sending mail to that domain, starting at 11111@foo.com working their way up to zzzzzzzzzz@foo.com. They usually bounce it off from an open relay or the originating source is from China. (Jesus I get crap loads of viruses from china, spam from china and network probes every f**king day from China, just aWTF is up with that?) So my mail server has to handle thousands of bounces. Add to that the return address is often faked. The bounce then bounces, adding more load to my server, and load to the innocent victims server (like all the faked addresses from domains like AMERICA.COM or CNN.COM) If the IP is in a common RBL I at least have a small chance of catching it. I've taken to blocking the IP that contacts my mail server with any double bounce for a period of 4 hours. This alone has reduced server load by several percent.
Almost every on-line policy I have ever seen has the little line added that says "We reserve the right to change this without noticve, and without informing you" in effect. I wonder if borders, yahoo or hotmail changed their policy and just didn't inform us.
I say the only way to get spammers back its to make them pay. If they give you an 800 number, call up and give them some information "Hello, recording device, this is Jack Meoff at 6969 killspam lane, yes I'd like some information on your service, my number is (Give non 800 number from other spam). IF enough people do that then it will be cost prohibitive for them. Keep talking until recorder hangs up (more expensive, make the use 800 numbers not profitable and real phone numbers can be easier to track, at least in the US)
Here is a little fantasy from someone that has to defend against these morons. Nothing like getting 50,000 e-mails to a domain that only has 2k accounts on it. My favorite solution, of course, I'm not endorsing this or suggesting you do it, but with a real phone number and a real address a baseball bat and 2 friends is the best answer to the spam solution.
As Big Brother starts to collate that data I expect some interesting patterns will emerge. The famous "bought incubus CD -->probable anachristDO NOT issue that speeding ticket, you'll be embarassed on court!--"
It will be interesting to see what type of metric this data produces. Now if the data is flawed then it's not much use to anyone. I can't wait! I guess I have to start living with 2 Iranian women, purchase lots of ski gear (here in sunny FL) and start reading more ancient druid text.
The next TRUE geek test. Just how far away from the curve can you get. Just how confusing is it for Big Brother to pigeon hole you?
Compaq's (formerly DEC) C compiler for alpha's have always been excellent and far ahead of GCC. The problem is that a lot of compilers (we haven't tested the intel yet) won't compile all the code that you may want or need. In the *NIX env. GCC seems to provide the highest level of compatibility over a wide variety of platforms n(SUN, AXI, BSD, Linux, Tru-64, Windows, et al).
Until there is only one chip left to support (Intel is fast working on it, with the support of turncoats Compaq, HP and others) GCC will be a viable option. GCC is a great "cross platform" compiler that works for much of the current written open soruce code base. You can get that compiler to work for many different OSs and archs.
In the end, remember apache wasn't the fastest web server, but it was the "most correct" and it was free! It really doesn't matter how well your C compiler works if it won't compile your code or run on your system.
Given the nature of how DNS works, and how the root servers are run, how can ICANN guarantee anything? (it can't) If they do provide some sort of guarantee then haven't they added a financial incentive for someone to DOS the root servers?
The Europeans are asking for something that cannot be delivered (currently), and if they get it the chances increase that someone will DOS the servers for some financial gain. (i.e. your server went down, I now don't have to pay you x dollars). If I was ICANN I wouldn't want to sign an agreement. It may be time for ICANN to change the way it does business, and the "ad hoc" nature that the root servers are maintained may have to change. DNS the protocol itself needs to be very carefully looked at as well.
Sad isn't it, here is the VERY thing all those "privacy people" keep screaming about. The thing that MS says won't happen. The idea should chill us all to the core, after all with XP released it's just a matter of time before a magority of american's will have a "passport". Will it be reported by any big news organizations? Will it make front page (it should).
In the end I guess I best move to the bahamas and start ordering lots of neat things with all these new credit card numbers that magically appeared in my hotmail account.
Quick question/comment. On my win2k server any install of the 6 series of netscape causes the following things to happen (every single time)
1. part way through the install I will get some random error, usually "disk problem" or "virtual memory problem" (this with 512 mb of memory and 1 gig of pageing available and running almost nothing else during install!!) Disk check reveals no problems
2. Just before I reboot Zonealarm will beep about some winders program wanting to contact a microsoft site (which I allow, haven't hauled out the packet sniffer to see exactly what is being sent when server phones home)
3. Reboot and running netscape does NOTHING. I get a pretty icon and then it goes away. Not log file/event entry.
So anyone else have this expereince? Just curious before I goto check again and haul out the packet sniffer.....Is it me or does my Win2k server just not like netscape? Is Billy boy up to his old tricks again? Jesus, I just wanted to look at the new netscape for gosh sakes.
Oh well
Oh yeah, piss Bill Gates off and get more boxes to DOS yahoo with. Damn silly of me not to see this political movement. I wonder do they have a PAC (political action comity) yet?
Every country (and I've been to quite a few) has limitations on peoples freedom somehow. As a modern society we are fast approaching big brother if we aren't careful (UK has had big brother for a while hasn't it?).
Instead of being "Disgusted" perhaps you should pay an attorney to help "wage the war". You know we still have the ability to change the law and it has yet to be constitutionally tested. With all the "open source" companies out there I'm suprised there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for damages to the "open source product" caused by the RIAA.
Oh yeah, and next time there is an election, vote.
I know a lot of questions, but I'm curious to know how you feel after all that you have been through.
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The humor is intentional I assure you. Glad you enjoy it as much as I.
Ever heard of Walt Whiteman? His grammer was awful. His language was considered sub-par and many an enlightened person considered his work rubbish. Those enlightened people are long forgotten, but Mr. Whiteman's work lives on. In fact I recall a previous US president gives a copy of "Leaves of Grass" to his girlfriends. (I'm no Walt Whiteman, nor am I implying such. I'm pointing out that content and ideas relayed are what's important, especially in such an informal place as /.)
So, when you originally are challenging the reader to think of something "intelligent" before replying, we are to presume that you put your full intelligence into the question?
Shouldn't you have said "when you originally challenged the reader...."? Isn't this sentence considered an overly verbose sentence (or whatever your English teacher calls these things)?
Aren't posts about grammer instead of the topic stupid, idiodic and pointless?
Pay attention now sparky; I'm going to rephrase the question, and let us see if you can follow.
For those that missed out .NET initiative?"
The question I asked was "Should the open source community try and copy or imitate the
What I was hoping for was some sort of semi-thought out response along the lines of "Yes, the open source community needs to or should develop a .NET because X Y Z" or "No the open source community shouldn't because of P D Q".
Thank You
If you understood what I was getting at then why can't you comment? I love your bitchy attitude, PLEASE don't think about what was asked,EVER. Do try and rip the questioner a new one for not dotting his i's and crossing his T's. Thinking about the question is obviously a too great a strain.
Perhaps next time make an intelligent comment on the question ASKED and then in a PS suggest a different language usage.
I have noticed over the years that what you are paid is not necessarily what you are worth. A skilled amin may actually be cheaper than the FUD spreading "Uber-Admin" who just got his MCSE and is demanding 70k a year. The question is if your organisation already has an admin that is capable, then it may make good financial sense to jump to Linux.
To be honest this descion will require some thought and a good deal of review. It's NOT a panecea!! and I'm not suggesting it is for everyone. BUT I am finding more and more Linux users and admins hiding in cubicles all over the place ;)