I didn't even realize that there was such a thing as -2. Granted, I've only been reading slashdot for under a year, but still, if you make it so that the steps you have to take to read all the posts are prohibitively difficult, it's censorship.
And don't tell me "it's not prohibitively difficult, all you have to do is click on 'preferences > really obscure prefs > some strangely labelled link', and it's there at the bottom of the page." If the standard interface - that little dropdown menu - gives the impression that you're seeing all there is to see when you aren't, you are censoring those that don't show up when I read at -1.
The newest set of iMacs are entirely convection cooled. No freon or anything, just cleverly placed vents, and a processor heatsink about half the size of what you'll see on a pentium(I/II/ III). Basically the only heat they produce is from the built-in monitor.
Also, all other G3 (and as far as I know G4) Macs have no processor fan, just a single case fan. If I open my blue & white G3 after it's been on for a few days non-stop, the heatsink is about as warm as my hands. The Motorola/IBM PPC has been a copper chip for a number of years now (since the 604 I think), so it hardly puts out any heat at all.
LinuxPPC or netBSD are both options for Apple hardware servers, as is of course Mac OS X Server, if you want to spend money.
In many European countries it's hard to get an American credit card accepted, as they are "dumb" cards. I mean dumb as opposed to "smart" cards that have microchips on them, as most European credit and debit cards have. I don't know how they handle internet purchases.
"... Our main focus is to sell it to our mainstream customers, a certain type of person we're aiming at."
Meaning, presumably, customers too sheepish (in both senses of the word) to contest fraudulent sales tactics? Customers who let themselves be browbeaten by smartass phone flunkies?
I feel less bad that all these people are hacking their machines now. Hustling an honest company is one thing, hustling a hustler somehow seems a lot less despicable.
...I would come up with a nice powerful geek-type OS - call it 'Darwin', say. I would put my commercial OS on top of it, and use the geek-type OS for its power and stability. I would GPL this Darwin, and make sure it compiled to the platform most of the geeks are using - x86. That way, I would be able to get open source development for free, and I would be sure that my core OS would be rock-solid, and stay that way, as the geeks would keep fine-tuning it.
But, if I were Jobs, realizing that x86 is a lame duck in the long run, I wouldn't bother making the commercial part of the OS x86 compatible. Of course, PPC seems like a good contender to replace x86, but its makers don't look like they're really trying that hard. So I would keep my options open.
Whatever replaces x86 in the long run, there is going to be a lot of work done on making sure that every geek OS out there compiles and runs like a steam engine on that platform. Therefore, it would be in my best interest to make sure that when x86 breathes its last, there is a sizable geek crew using Darwin. These geeks would then contribute a great deal of expertise to making my core OS port nicely, and since the commercial part of my platform compiles on top of Darwin, it would be relatively easy to bring everything else over in a nice timely manner.
This is just what I would do, but it loks kinda familiar to me...
On another topic altogether, all this talk of getting OS X to run on wintel PC's seems (to me, unless I'm really missing something) to be confusing the processor with the whole box. For example, sure the BeOS runs on PPC, but just try to get it to run on an iMac - the problem isn't what processor is in there, but the motherboard, peripherals, BIOS/firmware, etc. More than likely, Apple is making sure that they can switch processors in their still-proprietary hardware (to whatever architecture seems most promising - x86, sparc, crusoe, something else altogether...), should IBM and Motorola continue being unable to keep up with demand for both numbers and new versions.
From what I've heard, people using the developers' preview releases of OS X have had little trouble compiling standard GNU apps (If I recall rightly, ash & tcsh were mentioned). Among the development tools being used are a variation (recently GPL'ed) of gcc and tools like make, etc.
Once there is an X server out for OS X, which really shouldn't take long, you should be able to get X11 apps compiled for OS X as well.
Apple actually owns patent/tm/whatever on the name FireWire. This is why some deivices are released with the unappealing name 'IEEE 1394' (or whatever it is) - Apple didn't like the company enough to grnt permission, presumably because of lack of mac drivers, etc.
Looks like just about the right application for the stupid iMac kb that came with my g3, and is sitting in a bottom drawer of my desk right now. Would have to get a usb mouse to go with it, since the puck-mouse is one-button...
Now this just leaves connecting it to a network, might be able to use a USB-ethernet adaptor(?), since the kb has a two-plug hub built in.
Yeah, it was only after about the third or fourth reboot & run of their graphical installer almost installing Linux on the dedicated HD I was using that Mac started going wonky. I've neer had a problem with prefs files corrupted. Mostly my problems have been too many ResEdit hacks getting into conflicts, or just plain buggy software.
Well, maybe the Linux filesystem is hot stuff, I'd love to find out...
"UI is just about where the widgets go and what colour they are" - now that's a Common Misconception.
For me anyhow, a lot of the problem with Windows installations is not [running the thing, rebooting, remembering to log back in as admin, installing the other stuff that was required but the documentation didn't mention it, banging my head on the table, rebooting again....] but rather the fact that when it's all done, I have no idea where the **** the installer put anything. I use the start menu because I have no choice - the files installed are in no useful place at all, don't have names that would help me recognize them in the least, and half of them wouldn't work if I double-clicked the icon anyway.
In a Mac installation, by contrast, it asks me where stuff should go, I tell it where to put things [possibly restart, bang head...] and when it's all done, things are where they oughta be, they have names that make sense, and if I want to put them somewhere else that would make them more easily accessible, it won't break anything.
What seems to have been missed here is that UI includes lots of things, including the filesystem actually being self-descriptive - Windows has a start menu, and that's the one place where all the good UI in the entire OS is concentrated. Most Windows users only use the desktop and start menu because if you go any deeper, it's a tangled jungle. Strange as this may seem to some *nix people, I love Macs because I love to know how the OS works, and how things are arranged - because the UI extends to low-level stuff.
I can't talk about Linux installation processes, except for actually installing the OS itself, and my experience there has been that not only does it fail to do so, but it also ****s with the other OS it's to cohabit with (Mac OS, in case anyone hadn't guessed yet). As for the filesystem (this gathered from working on machines at school), it looks to me like it's kept neat the same way a ten-year-old keeps his room neat - shove everything under the bed in no order at all, out of sight. By this I mean a bunch of unusefully named dotfiles stashed at the root level of my home directory, neat only because you don't see them, and everything else crammed into a folder named, accurately enough,/etc.
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...And for not taking the mickey out of me too bad.
Your answers sure made me pleased - now I'm a bit more excited to get the GM this summer.
With any beer made in Germany, you automatically know all the ingredients - water, barley, hops, yeast. Until recently, it was illegal to sell anything containing any other ingredients as beer in Germany, but now with the EU, they've been forced to abandon those laws.
Still, no German brewery would dare abandon them, and no German consumer would stoop to buying a beer not made according to them
Everyone should have a quintuple T3 line, and a separate Beowulf cluster server for their personal web pages. Everyone should storm their ISP's that don't support HTTP cacheing with torches and pitchforks, and it's their own fault that they don't.
The trend in the virtualization of war is actually the opposite of what you describe.
The idea is: train soldiers with games as realistic as possible now - forget Doom and Quake, we want realistic wounds, entrails hanging on the ground after gutshots... That way they will get used to not thinking of real people when they kill, and what they will be used to seeing as 'a game' will be as close as possible to what they are going to see in war.
This is one of the stronger arguments I have heard for violent video games as promoting violence - if the U.S. army uses it to make their soldiers into more cold-blooded killers, there's got to be a similar effect on kids. And it sure does seem strange that I can go to an arcade, and for a few quarters get the same techniques exercised on me that the U.S. army uses to make effective killers, without getting ony of the discipline that also goes into trying to stop them killing civilians...
Closing is done so seldomly that it deserves to be on a contextual menu -- right click on window frame to close
this is mac, remember. Nonetheless, I use a two button scrolling mouse with my mac, and I happen to think that two button meese is one of the few things Windows' UI has over mac's. Even so, for a UI designed for a one button mouse, it's interesting that the Mac (with FinderPop added, very nice extension) handles right-clicks far better and more usefully than Win...
Ibought a (then) brand-spanking-new blue g3 last year, and at the time, I forced myself to consider other options (well, the other option, there being no way I'm going to have a Windows machine staring at me at home - I spend enough time cursing the things at school and work). Result? I dragged myself about to computer stores to be insulted by dishonest salesmen, found that getting any decent hardware would cost me a lot more than the g3 I had looked at and loved after about a minute, and finally gave up and bought the mac. I did get something valuable out of it though, aside from the computer - an appreciation of the fact that snap, intuition based decisions are often the right ones. Sticking around second-guessing myself only caused me needless headaches
I have no problems, therefore anyone who has problems is an idiot, since any situation different from mine is obviously merely a simplification of it. Have I got you right?
As far as I can gather, this patch prevents AirPort connections to a basestation from working properly, which many people use to connect their DSL or cable modems, both of which WOULD be potential weaknesses for DoS attacks.
My guess is that the idiot UI designers are all at M$. The ones at corel are idiot UI ripper-offers. Had they any sense, they'd go right to the source, and copy mac. But then they're pretty wintel centric in mindset, even it they are trying to change - try to get WP for linuxppc...
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And don't tell me "it's not prohibitively difficult, all you have to do is click on 'preferences > really obscure prefs > some strangely labelled link', and it's there at the bottom of the page." If the standard interface - that little dropdown menu - gives the impression that you're seeing all there is to see when you aren't, you are censoring those that don't show up when I read at -1.
English spelling didn't become standardized until fairly recently. Spelling consistently just wasn't considered that big a deal.
Also, all other G3 (and as far as I know G4) Macs have no processor fan, just a single case fan. If I open my blue & white G3 after it's been on for a few days non-stop, the heatsink is about as warm as my hands. The Motorola/IBM PPC has been a copper chip for a number of years now (since the 604 I think), so it hardly puts out any heat at all.
LinuxPPC or netBSD are both options for Apple hardware servers, as is of course Mac OS X Server, if you want to spend money.
In many European countries it's hard to get an American credit card accepted, as they are "dumb" cards. I mean dumb as opposed to "smart" cards that have microchips on them, as most European credit and debit cards have. I don't know how they handle internet purchases.
Meaning, presumably, customers too sheepish (in both senses of the word) to contest fraudulent sales tactics? Customers who let themselves be browbeaten by smartass phone flunkies?
I feel less bad that all these people are hacking their machines now. Hustling an honest company is one thing, hustling a hustler somehow seems a lot less despicable.
But, if I were Jobs, realizing that x86 is a lame duck in the long run, I wouldn't bother making the commercial part of the OS x86 compatible. Of course, PPC seems like a good contender to replace x86, but its makers don't look like they're really trying that hard. So I would keep my options open.
Whatever replaces x86 in the long run, there is going to be a lot of work done on making sure that every geek OS out there compiles and runs like a steam engine on that platform. Therefore, it would be in my best interest to make sure that when x86 breathes its last, there is a sizable geek crew using Darwin. These geeks would then contribute a great deal of expertise to making my core OS port nicely, and since the commercial part of my platform compiles on top of Darwin, it would be relatively easy to bring everything else over in a nice timely manner.
This is just what I would do, but it loks kinda familiar to me...
On another topic altogether, all this talk of getting OS X to run on wintel PC's seems (to me, unless I'm really missing something) to be confusing the processor with the whole box. For example, sure the BeOS runs on PPC, but just try to get it to run on an iMac - the problem isn't what processor is in there, but the motherboard, peripherals, BIOS/firmware, etc. More than likely, Apple is making sure that they can switch processors in their still-proprietary hardware (to whatever architecture seems most promising - x86, sparc, crusoe, something else altogether...), should IBM and Motorola continue being unable to keep up with demand for both numbers and new versions.
From what I've heard, people using the developers' preview releases of OS X have had little trouble compiling standard GNU apps (If I recall rightly, ash & tcsh were mentioned). Among the development tools being used are a variation (recently GPL'ed) of gcc and tools like make, etc.
Once there is an X server out for OS X, which really shouldn't take long, you should be able to get X11 apps compiled for OS X as well.
Apple actually owns patent/tm/whatever on the name FireWire. This is why some deivices are released with the unappealing name 'IEEE 1394' (or whatever it is) - Apple didn't like the company enough to grnt permission, presumably because of lack of mac drivers, etc.
How does this affect the makers of my translucent-blue-and-frosted-white, round-edged steam iron?
Now this just leaves connecting it to a network, might be able to use a USB-ethernet adaptor(?), since the kb has a two-plug hub built in.
I've neer had a problem with prefs files corrupted. Mostly my problems have been too many ResEdit hacks getting into conflicts, or just plain buggy software.
Well, maybe the Linux filesystem is hot stuff, I'd love to find out...
For me anyhow, a lot of the problem with Windows installations is not [running the thing, rebooting, remembering to log back in as admin, installing the other stuff that was required but the documentation didn't mention it, banging my head on the table, rebooting again....] but rather the fact that when it's all done, I have no idea where the **** the installer put anything. I use the start menu because I have no choice - the files installed are in no useful place at all, don't have names that would help me recognize them in the least, and half of them wouldn't work if I double-clicked the icon anyway.
In a Mac installation, by contrast, it asks me where stuff should go, I tell it where to put things [possibly restart, bang head...] and when it's all done, things are where they oughta be, they have names that make sense, and if I want to put them somewhere else that would make them more easily accessible, it won't break anything.
What seems to have been missed here is that UI includes lots of things, including the filesystem actually being self-descriptive - Windows has a start menu, and that's the one place where all the good UI in the entire OS is concentrated. Most Windows users only use the desktop and start menu because if you go any deeper, it's a tangled jungle.
Strange as this may seem to some *nix people, I love Macs because I love to know how the OS works, and how things are arranged - because the UI extends to low-level stuff.
I can't talk about Linux installation processes, except for actually installing the OS itself, and my experience there has been that not only does it fail to do so, but it also ****s with the other OS it's to cohabit with (Mac OS, in case anyone hadn't guessed yet). As for the filesystem (this gathered from working on machines at school), it looks to me like it's kept neat the same way a ten-year-old keeps his room neat - shove everything under the bed in no order at all, out of sight. By this I mean a bunch of unusefully named dotfiles stashed at the root level of my home directory, neat only because you don't see them, and everything else crammed into a folder named, accurately enough, /etc.
...And for not taking the mickey out of me too bad.
Your answers sure made me pleased - now I'm a bit more excited to get the GM this summer.
With any beer made in Germany, you automatically know all the ingredients - water, barley, hops, yeast. Until recently, it was illegal to sell anything containing any other ingredients as beer in Germany, but now with the EU, they've been forced to abandon those laws.
Still, no German brewery would dare abandon them, and no German consumer would stoop to buying a beer not made according to them
Good thinking, let's ignore reality.
Everyone should have a quintuple T3 line, and a separate Beowulf cluster server for their personal web pages. Everyone should storm their ISP's that don't support HTTP cacheing with torches and pitchforks, and it's their own fault that they don't.
The trend in the virtualization of war is actually the opposite of what you describe.
The idea is: train soldiers with games as realistic as possible now - forget Doom and Quake, we want realistic wounds, entrails hanging on the ground after gutshots...
That way they will get used to not thinking of real people when they kill, and what they will be used to seeing as 'a game' will be as close as possible to what they are going to see in war.
This is one of the stronger arguments I have heard for violent video games as promoting violence - if the U.S. army uses it to make their soldiers into more cold-blooded killers, there's got to be a similar effect on kids.
And it sure does seem strange that I can go to an arcade, and for a few quarters get the same techniques exercised on me that the U.S. army uses to make effective killers, without getting ony of the discipline that also goes into trying to stop them killing civilians...
Closing is done so seldomly that it deserves to be on a contextual menu -- right click on window frame to close
this is mac, remember.
Nonetheless, I use a two button scrolling mouse with my mac, and I happen to think that two button meese is one of the few things Windows' UI has over mac's. Even so, for a UI designed for a one button mouse, it's interesting that the Mac (with FinderPop added, very nice extension) handles right-clicks far better and more usefully than Win...
Ibought a (then) brand-spanking-new blue g3 last year, and at the time, I forced myself to consider other options (well, the other option, there being no way I'm going to have a Windows machine staring at me at home - I spend enough time cursing the things at school and work). Result? I dragged myself about to computer stores to be insulted by dishonest salesmen, found that getting any decent hardware would cost me a lot more than the g3 I had looked at and loved after about a minute, and finally gave up and bought the mac. I did get something valuable out of it though, aside from the computer - an appreciation of the fact that snap, intuition based decisions are often the right ones. Sticking around second-guessing myself only caused me needless headaches
I have no problems, therefore anyone who has problems is an idiot, since any situation different from mine is obviously merely a simplification of it. Have I got you right?
As far as I can gather, this patch prevents AirPort connections to a basestation from working properly, which many people use to connect their DSL or cable modems, both of which WOULD be potential weaknesses for DoS attacks.
My guess is that the idiot UI designers are all at M$. The ones at corel are idiot UI ripper-offers. Had they any sense, they'd go right to the source, and copy mac. But then they're pretty wintel centric in mindset, even it they are trying to change - try to get WP for linuxppc...