Your sophisticated comments reflect the upbringing of a child of four cross-breed parents that work in the toad fluffy market (a subculture of the deviate porno market.) . and has been damaged spiritually, emotionally, cognitively, psychologically, and genetically. Probably like your four parents, I must suppose that you can only find useful work working on other non warm-blooded species.
BTW.. Not sure why you think the parent writer is a female, as most female mammals have a vagina which primary purpose is for coitus. But maybe, I can only suggest, that you don't know what they are or why they are used. You may have spend too much time with the flogs.
I know what the label means, and unless you have some statistical basis to claim "most" and the list of exceptions.. Please STFU and what a tool.
Bob: Sig: A liberatarian drugger that is funding my girlfriend's abortion as a result of unprotected sex she did in a porno movie. And still waiting for most of the CEOs of the large banks in the mid 2000's go to jail.
What a F(&*% moron.
I might grant you that my generation is the generation that started the decline against the initial Ideals that founded the country. They / I I were too rich, too well off, too comfortable vs. the rest of the world. And probably felt 'guilty".
We (they) were the product of a culture (set of values) within a society that wasn't physically or financially destroyed by WWII. Whether you were a Brit, French, Japanese, German, Soviet, or another of 100 other nation states or ethic groups, your life or generation was set back at least 20-40 years.
As to putting every person of the same generation in the same box, then I suggest you might be painting too broadly. Although I think that stereotypes, properly used, can be a useful tool for law enforcement, predicting success in intellectual, artist and leadership roles, etc., the use of age may not be a strong predictor for the persons responsible for your frustration. The Baby Boomers were and are NOT a single voice.
I know what I know, but I also know a lot about what I don't know. I have not seen, within the totality of human experience where centralized control and policy has worked for more than a few centuries. Most cases, 100 years. So,
I deny the existence of any God-like Wisdom within the Federal government (elected, selected, employees or contractors). And certainly don't see why I want them to unilaterally create a set of policies that I must conform to under penalty of my lose of my natural rights. ( I assume you know what that means.) I know that that differs from a lot of the some of the BBs. Just to say... no single voice.
By your "greediest, least principled, sorriest" comment, I can only see you have a myopic view of what some parts of age group tried/wanted to do. Sadly, you probably know a lot more about technology than the history of the '60, '70 and '80 and probably history in general.
For good or bad, massive of money was spent on trying keep some corners of the world away from USSR and China. Now, personally, I think it was a waste of blood and treasure. But killing 50K+ children for that purpose wasn't "Greed". Maybe Stupid, maybe naive... but not greed. There were protests against it.. but 80% of the BB were in favor. The minority made all the noise.
Spending trillions of dollars for a "War on Poverty" may have been a failure because they/we misunderstood human nature, economics, etc. But that wasn't "Greed".
Turning the Federal Government into a Charity of last result for Housing, Food, Clothing and Education wasn't greed. But probably totally misguided. The process, in my view, destroyed family, communities and local government. When loans is thrown around and taken without understanding the "implications", that probably isn't a good idea. The implications: like you have to pay it back regardless of income. Guido, in the North End, made sure you understood. The money isn't "free"
Any "reasonable" computer model should have seen when money is "free" for education and housing, that there will be a bunch of people with Trillions dollar debt for education and housing they can't afford. So the economy took the housing hit. Three years from now, we will take the Student loan hit. (BTW.. Stupid student loans were a product of my generation.) But we let it happen. I think a lot of the Wall Street guys (some that are still working for the Government) should be in jail and, in my view is ice farming in Nome. All the laws are on the books, but not even the current administration will put their supporters in jail. (Obama doesn't seem like a BB to me.)
So my generation made mistakes. But looking at the next couple coming down the road, I'm really scared. I'd rather have 2 more BB generations than the output of them.
Although some classic religions and legal systems do not punish the children for the sins for their parents, you will have to live with whatever sins (as you see them) your previous generation has committed. So your world sucks, what are you going
Maybe I used the wrong words in the wrong order.
I'm just an old fogey, born in '50s and watched every Mercury, Gemini and Apollo launch and recovery. When Life Magazine wasn't showing launches or recoveries, they actually tried to explain how a computer worked. (REALLY)
I have no doubts that improper use of natural resources, including to the point of exhaustion, that a society depends/needs can cause the collapse of that society. I'm not a afraid of that being said. Although, I think the question/answer is obvious.
My question / issue is why is NASA involved in that particular question. I don't think they bring anything special to the party. I truly respect their Rocket Engineering, Rocket Science and Space Science capabilities, or at least I want to. But I really don't think I want to fund THEM for anything I never imagined to be within their charter.
But I watch my Government continue to cut investment in NASA, watch them increase the debt on my grandchildren for immediate enrichment, and watched the last 2-3 generations lose the excitement that I had in the 60's for their NASA.
I'm am willing to increase the debt on my grandchildren based on Space and Rocket Science. The benefits to me, and the following 2 generations have been tremendous and the RIO from the 1960's have been Orders of magnitudes.
But I don't see any reason, that I can justify, for putting this study on my grand kids' credit card. There are 1000's of places to buy the same tautology.
And sadly, the story will just fuel a bigger Dem vs. Rep debate that will make it more difficult for NASA to get money to do what, at least originally, they were supposed to do.
Yeah.. I'm a stupid fan of "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." That was NASA for me. Not some economic/political/social think tank.
But if NASA wants to spend their money on this type of "research".. then, I'll vote to close them off from my grand kids' credit card.
I don't want NASA using their funds for Social/Political Simulations. Not their job and a complete waste of NASA money. Fire the writers and buy another Rocket, or a fuel tank, or something that has something to do with Aeronautics and Space, not make believe liberal arts studies.
Let some other organization waste their money. NASA is for Space Engineering/Science Research, not for some third rate Social Pseudo Science study.
Nah,
You are just another no nothing that tries to repeat something long enough that at least another fool, like you, will start to say it.
The housing bubble was a result of the intersection of massive stupidity, incompetence, greed and all out fraud by all branches of the Federal government, Outsiders and Stupid/Ignorant mortgagees. The Federal branches were encouraged, directed and funded by a select group of Outsiders consisting for large corporations (donors) and racist/class oriented action groups. The "Outsiders" did it for greed, in the case of the big banks and investment firms, OR, they thought it was a good idea to have a system (basically fraud) that put a large group of people in impossible situation (live up their accepted obligations).
Too many Stupid people that signed up for a mortgage that they not reasonable afford. They didn't have the ability/education/what ever to know that they had to have an income for 30 years. They didn't understand that they might lose their jobs. They didn't know that the needed some reserve funds. (Maybe you think they should have been refused? Maybe I think they shouldn't be allowed to vote if they can't think that through.)
The outsiders could claim "Higher Homeownership". In 1995 the rate was 64%, it broke 69% in 2004/2005, in 2013 it was back to 65%.
The Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Chris Dodd, (the son of the censured Thomas Dodd for corruption), claimed that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were "strong", "sound". At the same time, being investigate for special treatment at Countrywide. (that is the same lying AH that when to work at the MPAA after saying he wouldn't lobby).
Anyone that worked at the SEC, Fed Reserve, FDIC from 1999 to 2007 are either Stupid, Corrupt, or Useless. They can take their pick. They ALL had the date that the mortgages were bogus. The statistics HAD to say there is no way that home ownership could go up by 10% as a percent could go up in 7 years.
The problem wasn't "Reggie", nor Billy, or Georgie, or Obamie from where ever. The WHOLE system is corrupt. Regardless of Party, regardless of Branch, Regardless of Department. For the entire last 30 years.
So go after Reggie if you like. It just advertises your political and historical naivete. The problem was 1995 to 2005. All branches knew or should have understood but took money, put their head in the sand, just all round stupid or waiting for their next "Big Job" after they get their pension and insider connections.
"Reggie" wasn't perfect and had a lot of issues. But please stop being stupid.
A reasonable educated individual should understand that any real history needs 50 years for a significant number of facts and color to come out. Even then, cultural bias will have a big influence, but before the 50 year limit, there minimal real facts in which to draw conclusions and form actions.
WWII history has started to reached maturity.
Any one taking any action or forming an opinion based on a single MJ article probably shouldn't be allowed to walk around without a responsible adult. One has to really try to understand why anyone would expect any online or printed source to have a balanced view.
Good grief, the major news outlets take years to get their own facts and reporting correct.
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Your sophisticated comments reflect the upbringing of a child of four cross-breed parents that work in the toad fluffy market (a subculture of the deviate porno market.) . and has been damaged spiritually, emotionally, cognitively, psychologically, and genetically. Probably like your four parents, I must suppose that you can only find useful work working on other non warm-blooded species. BTW.. Not sure why you think the parent writer is a female, as most female mammals have a vagina which primary purpose is for coitus. But maybe, I can only suggest, that you don't know what they are or why they are used. You may have spend too much time with the flogs.
I know what the label means, and unless you have some statistical basis to claim "most" and the list of exceptions.. Please STFU and what a tool. Bob: Sig: A liberatarian drugger that is funding my girlfriend's abortion as a result of unprotected sex she did in a porno movie. And still waiting for most of the CEOs of the large banks in the mid 2000's go to jail. What a F(&*% moron.
I might grant you that my generation is the generation that started the decline against the initial Ideals that founded the country. They / I I were too rich, too well off, too comfortable vs. the rest of the world. And probably felt 'guilty".
We (they) were the product of a culture (set of values) within a society that wasn't physically or financially destroyed by WWII. Whether you were a Brit, French, Japanese, German, Soviet, or another of 100 other nation states or ethic groups, your life or generation was set back at least 20-40 years.
As to putting every person of the same generation in the same box, then I suggest you might be painting too broadly. Although I think that stereotypes, properly used, can be a useful tool for law enforcement, predicting success in intellectual, artist and leadership roles, etc., the use of age may not be a strong predictor for the persons responsible for your frustration. The Baby Boomers were and are NOT a single voice.
I know what I know, but I also know a lot about what I don't know. I have not seen, within the totality of human experience where centralized control and policy has worked for more than a few centuries. Most cases, 100 years. So,
I deny the existence of any God-like Wisdom within the Federal government (elected, selected, employees or contractors). And certainly don't see why I want them to unilaterally create a set of policies that I must conform to under penalty of my lose of my natural rights. ( I assume you know what that means.) I know that that differs from a lot of the some of the BBs. Just to say... no single voice.
By your "greediest, least principled, sorriest" comment, I can only see you have a myopic view of what some parts of age group tried/wanted to do. Sadly, you probably know a lot more about technology than the history of the '60, '70 and '80 and probably history in general.
For good or bad, massive of money was spent on trying keep some corners of the world away from USSR and China. Now, personally, I think it was a waste of blood and treasure. But killing 50K+ children for that purpose wasn't "Greed". Maybe Stupid, maybe naive... but not greed. There were protests against it.. but 80% of the BB were in favor. The minority made all the noise.
Spending trillions of dollars for a "War on Poverty" may have been a failure because they/we misunderstood human nature, economics, etc. But that wasn't "Greed".
Turning the Federal Government into a Charity of last result for Housing, Food, Clothing and Education wasn't greed. But probably totally misguided. The process, in my view, destroyed family, communities and local government. When loans is thrown around and taken without understanding the "implications", that probably isn't a good idea. The implications: like you have to pay it back regardless of income. Guido, in the North End, made sure you understood. The money isn't "free"
Any "reasonable" computer model should have seen when money is "free" for education and housing, that there will be a bunch of people with Trillions dollar debt for education and housing they can't afford. So the economy took the housing hit. Three years from now, we will take the Student loan hit. (BTW.. Stupid student loans were a product of my generation.) But we let it happen. I think a lot of the Wall Street guys (some that are still working for the Government) should be in jail and, in my view is ice farming in Nome. All the laws are on the books, but not even the current administration will put their supporters in jail. (Obama doesn't seem like a BB to me.)
So my generation made mistakes. But looking at the next couple coming down the road, I'm really scared. I'd rather have 2 more BB generations than the output of them.
Although some classic religions and legal systems do not punish the children for the sins for their parents, you will have to live with whatever sins (as you see them) your previous generation has committed. So your world sucks, what are you going
Maybe I used the wrong words in the wrong order. I'm just an old fogey, born in '50s and watched every Mercury, Gemini and Apollo launch and recovery. When Life Magazine wasn't showing launches or recoveries, they actually tried to explain how a computer worked. (REALLY) I have no doubts that improper use of natural resources, including to the point of exhaustion, that a society depends/needs can cause the collapse of that society. I'm not a afraid of that being said. Although, I think the question/answer is obvious. My question / issue is why is NASA involved in that particular question. I don't think they bring anything special to the party. I truly respect their Rocket Engineering, Rocket Science and Space Science capabilities, or at least I want to. But I really don't think I want to fund THEM for anything I never imagined to be within their charter. But I watch my Government continue to cut investment in NASA, watch them increase the debt on my grandchildren for immediate enrichment, and watched the last 2-3 generations lose the excitement that I had in the 60's for their NASA. I'm am willing to increase the debt on my grandchildren based on Space and Rocket Science. The benefits to me, and the following 2 generations have been tremendous and the RIO from the 1960's have been Orders of magnitudes. But I don't see any reason, that I can justify, for putting this study on my grand kids' credit card. There are 1000's of places to buy the same tautology. And sadly, the story will just fuel a bigger Dem vs. Rep debate that will make it more difficult for NASA to get money to do what, at least originally, they were supposed to do. Yeah.. I'm a stupid fan of "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before." That was NASA for me. Not some economic/political/social think tank. But if NASA wants to spend their money on this type of "research".. then, I'll vote to close them off from my grand kids' credit card.
I don't want NASA using their funds for Social/Political Simulations. Not their job and a complete waste of NASA money. Fire the writers and buy another Rocket, or a fuel tank, or something that has something to do with Aeronautics and Space, not make believe liberal arts studies. Let some other organization waste their money. NASA is for Space Engineering/Science Research, not for some third rate Social Pseudo Science study.
Nah, You are just another no nothing that tries to repeat something long enough that at least another fool, like you, will start to say it. The housing bubble was a result of the intersection of massive stupidity, incompetence, greed and all out fraud by all branches of the Federal government, Outsiders and Stupid/Ignorant mortgagees. The Federal branches were encouraged, directed and funded by a select group of Outsiders consisting for large corporations (donors) and racist/class oriented action groups. The "Outsiders" did it for greed, in the case of the big banks and investment firms, OR, they thought it was a good idea to have a system (basically fraud) that put a large group of people in impossible situation (live up their accepted obligations). Too many Stupid people that signed up for a mortgage that they not reasonable afford. They didn't have the ability/education/what ever to know that they had to have an income for 30 years. They didn't understand that they might lose their jobs. They didn't know that the needed some reserve funds. (Maybe you think they should have been refused? Maybe I think they shouldn't be allowed to vote if they can't think that through.) The outsiders could claim "Higher Homeownership". In 1995 the rate was 64%, it broke 69% in 2004/2005, in 2013 it was back to 65%. The Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Chris Dodd, (the son of the censured Thomas Dodd for corruption), claimed that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were "strong", "sound". At the same time, being investigate for special treatment at Countrywide. (that is the same lying AH that when to work at the MPAA after saying he wouldn't lobby). Anyone that worked at the SEC, Fed Reserve, FDIC from 1999 to 2007 are either Stupid, Corrupt, or Useless. They can take their pick. They ALL had the date that the mortgages were bogus. The statistics HAD to say there is no way that home ownership could go up by 10% as a percent could go up in 7 years. The problem wasn't "Reggie", nor Billy, or Georgie, or Obamie from where ever. The WHOLE system is corrupt. Regardless of Party, regardless of Branch, Regardless of Department. For the entire last 30 years. So go after Reggie if you like. It just advertises your political and historical naivete. The problem was 1995 to 2005. All branches knew or should have understood but took money, put their head in the sand, just all round stupid or waiting for their next "Big Job" after they get their pension and insider connections. "Reggie" wasn't perfect and had a lot of issues. But please stop being stupid.
A reasonable educated individual should understand that any real history needs 50 years for a significant number of facts and color to come out. Even then, cultural bias will have a big influence, but before the 50 year limit, there minimal real facts in which to draw conclusions and form actions. WWII history has started to reached maturity. Any one taking any action or forming an opinion based on a single MJ article probably shouldn't be allowed to walk around without a responsible adult. One has to really try to understand why anyone would expect any online or printed source to have a balanced view. Good grief, the major news outlets take years to get their own facts and reporting correct.