I had used many search search engines before Google was around and then started using Google when they became the most usable. I'd be happy to use a better search engine. The best way to win people over is to teach them to do better searches. I have seen hundreds of people use a search engine with one and two word searches and get millions of Google results. Then they need to read through pages of results. If they don't read pages of results, they get Google's top rated propaganda and not necessarily what they were looking for.
Google rankings aren't bad, if you are specific, but Google's search results lost depth a while ago and I'm not sure when it happened. I should be able to find anything with the right search string, but I can't. I can get 50 Million pages, but when I drill down, I can't get 10 that I know exist and Google has indexed.
There may be to many adword conflicts, so they don't show any ads or results:-)
Okay, I get it, you don't like Apple, but your pricing analysis isn't quite on par with these analysts.
Bear Stearns analysts Andy Neff, Bill Hand and Ted Chung:
"Xserve (server hardware): AAPL's new rack mount Xserve is also based on Intel's new dual-core Xeon processor and starts with a standard base configuration of two dual-core 2.0GHz Xeon processors, 1GB of memory, 80GB Serial ATA drive, ATI 64MB graphics card, and 24x Combo drive - although AAPL offers a number of configurable options. Priced at $2,999 for the base model, AAPL's Xserve is 10% less than the comparable system from DELL (PowerEdge 1950) which is priced at $3,333 (see detailed comparison). Though DELL offers a superior service/support contract, AAPL's Xserve comes with an unlimited client edition of its "Tiger" operating system, while DELL's MSFT Server 2003 edition is limited to 5 client seats."
Yes, Dell has special offers and does offer 3 yr support.
Have you ever seen an Xserve, I have seen both and it's very clear to me that Apple makes better hardware. Users rate Apples service higher than any hardware mfg., even Dell (which has been falling in the rankings)
Want lower end servers or more processors, check out Sun (JAVA), they rock and are priced better than Dell too.
"Apple simply has no product to cater for low-end 1U machines, 2U machines"
Find a Quad Xeon for $2995 that compares:
All Xserve configurations include: two 64-bit Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" microprocessors, eight fully buffered DIMM slots, two PCI Express expansion slots, three hard drive bays with support for SATA or SAS Apple Drive Modules, one optical drive, two USB 2.0 ports, two FireWire 800 ports, one FireWire 400 port, dual Gigabit Ethernet ports, one DB9 serial port, one 650W power supply with support for dual redundant power supplies, rack mounting rails, integrated lights-out management hardware with Server Monitor software, and an unlimited-client license of Mac OS X Server.
You can run your favorite LINUX on it, instead of the unlimited client OS X Server or rum VMware on it and install Windows servers, if you have the desire.
They have 24/7 support and you can purchase any level of support you like.
Do you honestly think there is any system with unlimited client Windows server that even comes close?
It's easy to be an Apple Evangelists. Look what Apple has done with Intel chips. Cool notebooks, great workstations and even the X-serve trumps similar servers using the same chips from Intel. They design everything better!
Look at the similar servers:
IBM servers are what you would expect IBM servers to be, solid, expensive and well serviced. Dell and HP servers are almost what IBM's are, but less expensive. Apple makes better servers, but the OS keeps their market numbers low, even though you can run other operating systems, directly or as virtual machines.
Sun's Sunfire servers may be a better buy, they are well designed, solid, well serviced, less expensive and I think they are faster at this point in time, but they are not using the Intel chips.
Does AMD even have Evangelist's?
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I had used many search search engines before Google was around and then started using Google when they became the most usable. I'd be happy to use a better search engine. The best way to win people over is to teach them to do better searches. I have seen hundreds of people use a search engine with one and two word searches and get millions of Google results. Then they need to read through pages of results. If they don't read pages of results, they get Google's top rated propaganda and not necessarily what they were looking for. Google rankings aren't bad, if you are specific, but Google's search results lost depth a while ago and I'm not sure when it happened. I should be able to find anything with the right search string, but I can't. I can get 50 Million pages, but when I drill down, I can't get 10 that I know exist and Google has indexed. There may be to many adword conflicts, so they don't show any ads or results :-)
Okay, I get it, you don't like Apple, but your pricing analysis isn't quite on par with these analysts. Bear Stearns analysts Andy Neff, Bill Hand and Ted Chung: "Xserve (server hardware): AAPL's new rack mount Xserve is also based on Intel's new dual-core Xeon processor and starts with a standard base configuration of two dual-core 2.0GHz Xeon processors, 1GB of memory, 80GB Serial ATA drive, ATI 64MB graphics card, and 24x Combo drive - although AAPL offers a number of configurable options. Priced at $2,999 for the base model, AAPL's Xserve is 10% less than the comparable system from DELL (PowerEdge 1950) which is priced at $3,333 (see detailed comparison). Though DELL offers a superior service/support contract, AAPL's Xserve comes with an unlimited client edition of its "Tiger" operating system, while DELL's MSFT Server 2003 edition is limited to 5 client seats." Yes, Dell has special offers and does offer 3 yr support. Have you ever seen an Xserve, I have seen both and it's very clear to me that Apple makes better hardware. Users rate Apples service higher than any hardware mfg., even Dell (which has been falling in the rankings) Want lower end servers or more processors, check out Sun (JAVA), they rock and are priced better than Dell too.
"Apple simply has no product to cater for low-end 1U machines, 2U machines" Find a Quad Xeon for $2995 that compares: All Xserve configurations include: two 64-bit Dual-Core Intel Xeon "Woodcrest" microprocessors, eight fully buffered DIMM slots, two PCI Express expansion slots, three hard drive bays with support for SATA or SAS Apple Drive Modules, one optical drive, two USB 2.0 ports, two FireWire 800 ports, one FireWire 400 port, dual Gigabit Ethernet ports, one DB9 serial port, one 650W power supply with support for dual redundant power supplies, rack mounting rails, integrated lights-out management hardware with Server Monitor software, and an unlimited-client license of Mac OS X Server. You can run your favorite LINUX on it, instead of the unlimited client OS X Server or rum VMware on it and install Windows servers, if you have the desire. They have 24/7 support and you can purchase any level of support you like. Do you honestly think there is any system with unlimited client Windows server that even comes close?
It's easy to be an Apple Evangelists. Look what Apple has done with Intel chips. Cool notebooks, great workstations and even the X-serve trumps similar servers using the same chips from Intel. They design everything better! Look at the similar servers: IBM servers are what you would expect IBM servers to be, solid, expensive and well serviced. Dell and HP servers are almost what IBM's are, but less expensive. Apple makes better servers, but the OS keeps their market numbers low, even though you can run other operating systems, directly or as virtual machines. Sun's Sunfire servers may be a better buy, they are well designed, solid, well serviced, less expensive and I think they are faster at this point in time, but they are not using the Intel chips. Does AMD even have Evangelist's?