"Because for some strange reason, humans need to believe that what is, is always how it will be."
That's not the point of the quote at all. It's a commentary on ambitious rulers and past civilizations. You should also give Shelley proper credit for writing it.
Perhaps that is your personal interpretation.
A whole lot of us note tht it is a poem about the hubris of people, believing that th etop dog will always be that way, and anyone else should just give up, because there is no point.
Many leaders believe that their government or ideals will last forever, or near enough. Like Microsoft sycophants, who believe that Microsoft will be number one forever. That would be a first. Look upon their Microsoft's works and despair, oh every other software company.
Probably wha tthe new administration will do is pay Microsoft a billion dollars in return for only laying off 600 of them, showing that they are bringing jerbs back, making us great again.
Linux just works! Your files never just disappear after a crash when the directory entries get pruned, and when that never happens, you just rewrite the configuration because you memorized it. Linux! Bestest ever. You heard it here on slashdot, home of rabid linux zealotry!
Sarcasm only works when you don't sound like a meth head when you use it. Now go get a good nights sleep, dear.
Never, it just doesn't get corrupted anyhow. And if it ever did, you don't have to reinstall the system, just reconfigure. You see, the reason why you windows users fail at using other OSes is that you expect everything to work like microsoft has told you.
There you have it! From cancelling installs when they see a warning, to trying to install off the internet to trying to impose Windows on a Unixy machine, Windows users tend to make their own problems when trying to use Linux.
At the same time, efforts to diversify into other areas have not been, to put it charitably, as successful as they would have liked.
I'll agree that they're still critical and relevant, but at the same time, they're the least critical and most irrelevant than any other time in the history of the PC.
Relevant quote:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Because for some strange reason, humans need to believe that what is, is always how it will be.
Microsoft is on most business computers (with some very notable and important exceptions) so Microsoft will always be number one, world without end, amen.
But that isn't how it works, no matter how much some of us demand stasis.
I don't have a dog in this pissing contest, as I use and enjoy OSX (now MacOS) Linux, iOS, Android, ChromeOS and Windows. I mainly enjoy pointing out that the belief that because it was Microsoft uber alles, that it shall be Microsoft uber alles, forever. Even the National Football League, once considered firmly cemented as the king of sports forever, is doing a bit of a decline. Trying to look at it with a non-prejudiced eye - with a disclaimer that my least favorite OS is Windows, if I google "Microsoft moving to subscription OS", we get a lot of NO THEY ARE NOT! and a couple announcements that say "oh, we are", as Enterprise and Surface serve as the test bed.
IOW, the faithful will in the not too distant future will be able to prove their loyalty with their wallets, forever and ever, world without end, amen. We'll see how that works out. It won't take all that long until you have paid much more for your Windows machine than that stupid hipster and his "overpriced" Mac.
Oh I see. How amazing! Any idea what the composition of the solder or contact point was? I've never worked on anything remotely like that.
They wanted us to use a solder with 3 percent silver. Sn62Pb36Ag2 The silver was to help against dissolution of the silver from the contact, and had a little bit lower of a melting point.
The process to make the strips was probably similar to that used for plated through holes. There must have been some reason that they used silver instead of copper however, I suspect it is mechanical, since the plated area isn't annular, and the stresses will be different. To my surprise - silver ceramic terminals are still manufactured and sold! http://www.partsconnexion.com/....
I had a little experience with plated through hole construction, but we used copper and solder plating. So anyone knowing about the silver process is welcome to chime in.
Bullshit! RoHS isn't silly, it wouldn't apply to spacecraft and you "bible" doesn't negate the actual research that is done on solder alloys after it was printed!
You obviously don't understand alloys and that proportions of different components plus the choice of the components makes a huge difference. You don't understand the reasoning (and research) behind the RoHS and you think an old book triumphs modern research...
It is easy to list things that changes the properties of solders, one example is that bismuth shouldn't be used in standard leaded solder as it can drastically reduce melt temperatures, in a lead free formulation there are not such problems (though an excess of bismuth will make joints fragile).
Bullshit! RoHS isn't silly, it wouldn't apply to spacecraft and you "bible" doesn't negate the actual research that is done on solder alloys after it was printed!
Chill out anger person. The pamphlet showed photograps and photomicrographs of various solders. Lead free solder is not something just thought up then designed by teams of scientists after tin/lead was declared bad. Analysis has gone on for many decades, as pointed out in a cite below. This thing had dozens of images, and the lead free solders of the time looked remarkably like lead free solder of today.
You obviously don't understand alloys and that proportions of different components plus the choice of the components makes a huge difference. You don't understand the reasoning (and research) behind the RoHS and you think an old book triumphs modern research...
Oh anger person, I think maybe less coffee or working out whatever has caused your rage might be in order, because there are one of two choices, you either have anger management issues because going wild over my post is uncalled for, or whatever that is bothering you that causes you to snap at an innocent post needs addressed.
Anyhow, yes, they did have a lot of research back in the day. Especially with solder, due both to it's importance in electronics, but in the different melting points and strength characteristics, as well as the final intended use. A lot of interesting work was going on, in aerospace and space itself, where problems could be pretty critical and life ending. In addition, Mil-Spec had it's own strict requirements due to extreme reliability requirements. In general, Lead free solders were considered inadequate, and many consider them inadequate for the same reasons today. In space, whiskers are a problem aside for their obvious shorting tendencies, but rework isn't likely at all.
"Tin whiskers" were a problem with early electronic solders, and lead was initially added to the alloy in part to eliminate them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder).
On July 1, 2006 the European Union Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment Directive (WEEE) and Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive (RoHS) came into effect prohibiting the intentional addition of lead to most consumer electronics produced in the EU. Manufacturers in the U.S. may receive tax benefits by reducing the use of lead-based solder. Lead free solders in commercial use may contain tin, copper, silver, bismuth, indium, zinc, antimony, and traces of other metals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder). There is no U.S. legislation presently on the horizon pertaining to lead containing solders. Most of the focus presently on eliminating lead in electronic solders is from European community countries and Japan (www.indium.com/_dynamo/download.php?docid=21).
There are many lead free solders exists, but the group comprising tin-silver-copper alloys is considered the mainstream alloy system that will replace tin-lead (www.indium.com/_dynamo/download.php?docid=21).
Screwed how? Was it calibrated for the thermocouple effect with that solder or something?
No, what happened was that the lead in regular solder would dissolve the metal plated onto the notch, and it would destroy the connection point. Here is the interior of one of those old scopes http://www.barrytech.com/tektr... You can see the ceramic strips around the middle and top of the scope with the components mounted in between. Seriously weird stuff.
Lots of stuff is exempt from RoHS. It mostly applies to things you're selling on the open market, i.e. products. You can still buy full-fat lead solder perfectly legally.
I'm actual rather partial to the tin/lead/silver blend for rework. It's quite a bit more expensive than normal eutectic solder, but melts at a lower temperature, which is really handy.
I have multiple types of solder, modern substandard lead free solder, and Tin lead which I use for most things, depending on what the original solder was. Plus a number of silver containing We don't want to mix the types for certain. It is amazing the number of different compositions we have to choose from. I even worked on a couple ancient Tektronix scopes that used special solder that they included inside the case - the components were soldered onto ceramic bars with metal plated notches. You were screwed if you used any other solder.
But the worst solders in my opinion are the lead free, and the more tin, the more likely the whisker problem shows up.
Why would RoHS directives apply to spaceflight? That would be silly.
Yes it would. Of course, RoHS is silly to begin with. Even more so with more and more electronics being recycled.
Years ago, I came across an old soldering booklet put out by IIRC Kester. Of interest was the contaminants section, with failures and defects. Many of the defects shown were by the presence of the components of modern day lead free solder.
After parthogenesis is perfected, a few women will go for it. And the rest will go for men as usual, for a variety of reasons:
* More fun!
* Simpler/cheaper procedure, no need for pills/equipment. A handful one-night stands is all a woman really need from men anyway.
* Men are useful for painting walls, fixing car tires, removing snow, carrying stuff from shops, . . .
* Alimony
That depends on how many men are going to put up with that shit. Seema a fiar number are dropping out of that mess.
I think it's like this - what is in it for men? That one night stand might get you accused of rape, or certainly you might get nailed for child support intil the offspring graduates college if you being used as an insemination utility is successful. And a man who donates sperm had better understand that he can now be liable for child support. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/...
For those who don't want to read the link, a man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple was successfully sued for child support when the couple fell on financial hard times.
So if you are willing to sign your life and fortune and good name away for a piece of ass, have at it. Just go in with both eyes open. Because if she wants your money, she's gonna get it, sepecially if you do it th eold fashioned way.
Then the women would die off because as a group they consume way more resources than they produce. Men produce more resources than they consume overall.
And if someone gets a little too frisky with China, and pulls some really dumb move, China owns something like a third of the total foreign held US debt.
And what the fuck are you afraid they are going to do?
That dear sir, depend on what New America does. Now that we are set to reclaim our space at teh top of the heap, we might just need to show China who exactly is boss in this world.
Because it is so dangerous for a man to get married and have children due to unfair family law. MGTOW. Look it up
While MGTOW is a little interesting, way too much of it is butthurt whining. But the point is taken that an increasing number of men who would make good mates for a woman have done a risk/benefit analysis, and decided that it is not worth it.
And that is kind of a problem. It's a passive avoidance, it isn't illegal. It's like avoiding smoking by not smoking. And as VR and "sex dolls" become more realistic, will only become worse.
What is worse, while stable prudent men decide to pursue their careers and keep their assets, and avoid relationships with females, the jerks and abusers won't change at all.
For human women. After parthenogenesis is perfected, Human males will become useless parasites, and can finally be eliminated, ending all of the problems on earth.
I think their pretty happy with the US's issues with TPP too. Personally, I have some huge issues with TPP of course...but it is a policy to restrict China trade-wise and even rumors of the US abandoning it has allowed China to do various maneuvering.
And if someone gets a little too frisky with China, and pulls some really dumb move, China owns something like a third of the total foreign held US debt. (don't hold me to that exact amount, suffice to say it is a Yuge amount)
Although China needs the US as badly as the US needs China, if we try to bluster our way into something stupid, just calling the debt will make for a rather unpleasant time as the world economy topples.
Aaaaand what percentage of the earths surface is covered by the UK?
That's the "Looked out my window and it was cold this morning - Take that golbal warming douchebags!" theory that he's spouting.
Now that can be of some utility. For instanceI can note that it was a fairly cold winter two years ago here in the Northeast of the US. Okay.
But the part of interest is that the other 15+ winters this century have been warmer than normal. That's a lot more interesting than "soundbite" weather.
If I wanted to play the UK denier's game I would note that I was outside doing yardwork last week in a just jeans and a T-Shirt as the temperature hit 60+ degrees F. But that was weather.
A little more interesting is that during what is statistically the coldest part of the year, it is not going to dip below feezing here for the next week. A little more more interesting, but still weather.
But with that trend continuing for years and years? Now it has become extremely interesting.
The ability of politics to trump science and the laws of physics is remarkable. It's called the "Neener-Neener effect.
Hey! We pour the most money into our prison system, so it must be the best.
Your prison companies will be happy to make your prison system even better by increasing their profit margins.
Hard to imagine that people could not figure out that in a corporatocracy, that applting the profit motive to incarcerating humans would not lead to demands and baksheesh to incarderate more humans. If you have to make more profit every quarter, you need more prisoners, for longer periods of time. The most contradictory thing about that, is that you need to take care of the prisoners so that they live as long as possible, maximizing the profit per prisoner, while the get tough on crime crowd wants them all dead as soon as possible, so they pay as little as possible. Guess who wins?
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"Because for some strange reason, humans need to believe that what is, is always how it will be."
That's not the point of the quote at all. It's a commentary on ambitious rulers and past civilizations. You should also give Shelley proper credit for writing it.
Perhaps that is your personal interpretation.
A whole lot of us note tht it is a poem about the hubris of people, believing that th etop dog will always be that way, and anyone else should just give up, because there is no point.
Many leaders believe that their government or ideals will last forever, or near enough. Like Microsoft sycophants, who believe that Microsoft will be number one forever. That would be a first. Look upon their Microsoft's works and despair, oh every other software company.
Probably wha tthe new administration will do is pay Microsoft a billion dollars in return for only laying off 600 of them, showing that they are bringing jerbs back, making us great again.
Linux just works! Your files never just disappear after a crash when the directory entries get pruned, and when that never happens, you just rewrite the configuration because you memorized it. Linux! Bestest ever. You heard it here on slashdot, home of rabid linux zealotry!
Sarcasm only works when you don't sound like a meth head when you use it. Now go get a good nights sleep, dear.
Never, it just doesn't get corrupted anyhow. And if it ever did, you don't have to reinstall the system, just reconfigure. You see, the reason why you windows users fail at using other OSes is that you expect everything to work like microsoft has told you.
There you have it! From cancelling installs when they see a warning, to trying to install off the internet to trying to impose Windows on a Unixy machine, Windows users tend to make their own problems when trying to use Linux.
At the same time, efforts to diversify into other areas have not been, to put it charitably, as successful as they would have liked.
I'll agree that they're still critical and relevant, but at the same time, they're the least critical and most irrelevant than any other time in the history of the PC.
Relevant quote:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Because for some strange reason, humans need to believe that what is, is always how it will be.
Microsoft is on most business computers (with some very notable and important exceptions) so Microsoft will always be number one, world without end, amen.
But that isn't how it works, no matter how much some of us demand stasis.
I don't have a dog in this pissing contest, as I use and enjoy OSX (now MacOS) Linux, iOS, Android, ChromeOS and Windows. I mainly enjoy pointing out that the belief that because it was Microsoft uber alles, that it shall be Microsoft uber alles, forever. Even the National Football League, once considered firmly cemented as the king of sports forever, is doing a bit of a decline. Trying to look at it with a non-prejudiced eye - with a disclaimer that my least favorite OS is Windows, if I google "Microsoft moving to subscription OS", we get a lot of NO THEY ARE NOT! and a couple announcements that say "oh, we are", as Enterprise and Surface serve as the test bed.
IOW, the faithful will in the not too distant future will be able to prove their loyalty with their wallets, forever and ever, world without end, amen. We'll see how that works out. It won't take all that long until you have paid much more for your Windows machine than that stupid hipster and his "overpriced" Mac.
Oh I see. How amazing! Any idea what the composition of the solder or contact point was? I've never worked on anything remotely like that.
They wanted us to use a solder with 3 percent silver. Sn62Pb36Ag2 The silver was to help against dissolution of the silver from the contact, and had a little bit lower of a melting point.
The process to make the strips was probably similar to that used for plated through holes. There must have been some reason that they used silver instead of copper however, I suspect it is mechanical, since the plated area isn't annular, and the stresses will be different. To my surprise - silver ceramic terminals are still manufactured and sold! http://www.partsconnexion.com/... .
I had a little experience with plated through hole construction, but we used copper and solder plating. So anyone knowing about the silver process is welcome to chime in.
Bullshit! RoHS isn't silly, it wouldn't apply to spacecraft and you "bible" doesn't negate the actual research that is done on solder alloys after it was printed!
You obviously don't understand alloys and that proportions of different components plus the choice of the components makes a huge difference. You don't understand the reasoning (and research) behind the RoHS and you think an old book triumphs modern research...
It is easy to list things that changes the properties of solders, one example is that bismuth shouldn't be used in standard leaded solder as it can drastically reduce melt temperatures, in a lead free formulation there are not such problems (though an excess of bismuth will make joints fragile).
Bullshit! RoHS isn't silly, it wouldn't apply to spacecraft and you "bible" doesn't negate the actual research that is done on solder alloys after it was printed!
Chill out anger person. The pamphlet showed photograps and photomicrographs of various solders. Lead free solder is not something just thought up then designed by teams of scientists after tin/lead was declared bad. Analysis has gone on for many decades, as pointed out in a cite below. This thing had dozens of images, and the lead free solders of the time looked remarkably like lead free solder of today.
You obviously don't understand alloys and that proportions of different components plus the choice of the components makes a huge difference. You don't understand the reasoning (and research) behind the RoHS and you think an old book triumphs modern research...
Oh anger person, I think maybe less coffee or working out whatever has caused your rage might be in order, because there are one of two choices, you either have anger management issues because going wild over my post is uncalled for, or whatever that is bothering you that causes you to snap at an innocent post needs addressed.
Anyhow, yes, they did have a lot of research back in the day. Especially with solder, due both to it's importance in electronics, but in the different melting points and strength characteristics, as well as the final intended use. A lot of interesting work was going on, in aerospace and space itself, where problems could be pretty critical and life ending. In addition, Mil-Spec had it's own strict requirements due to extreme reliability requirements. In general, Lead free solders were considered inadequate, and many consider them inadequate for the same reasons today. In space, whiskers are a problem aside for their obvious shorting tendencies, but rework isn't likely at all.
If you need a more recent report, here's one from Auburn University: http://aaq.auburn.edu/node/88
Especially important is the following:
"Tin whiskers" were a problem with early electronic solders, and lead was initially added to the alloy in part to eliminate them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder). On July 1, 2006 the European Union Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment Directive (WEEE) and Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive (RoHS) came into effect prohibiting the intentional addition of lead to most consumer electronics produced in the EU. Manufacturers in the U.S. may receive tax benefits by reducing the use of lead-based solder. Lead free solders in commercial use may contain tin, copper, silver, bismuth, indium, zinc, antimony, and traces of other metals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder). There is no U.S. legislation presently on the horizon pertaining to lead containing solders. Most of the focus presently on eliminating lead in electronic solders is from European community countries and Japan (www.indium.com/_dynamo/download.php?docid=21). There are many lead free solders exists, but the group comprising tin-silver-copper alloys is considered the mainstream alloy system that will replace tin-lead (www.indium.com/_dynamo/download.php?docid=21).
Is lead free
Screwed how? Was it calibrated for the thermocouple effect with that solder or something?
No, what happened was that the lead in regular solder would dissolve the metal plated onto the notch, and it would destroy the connection point. Here is the interior of one of those old scopes http://www.barrytech.com/tektr... You can see the ceramic strips around the middle and top of the scope with the components mounted in between. Seriously weird stuff.
Lots of stuff is exempt from RoHS. It mostly applies to things you're selling on the open market, i.e. products. You can still buy full-fat lead solder perfectly legally.
I'm actual rather partial to the tin/lead/silver blend for rework. It's quite a bit more expensive than normal eutectic solder, but melts at a lower temperature, which is really handy.
I have multiple types of solder, modern substandard lead free solder, and Tin lead which I use for most things, depending on what the original solder was. Plus a number of silver containing We don't want to mix the types for certain. It is amazing the number of different compositions we have to choose from. I even worked on a couple ancient Tektronix scopes that used special solder that they included inside the case - the components were soldered onto ceramic bars with metal plated notches. You were screwed if you used any other solder.
But the worst solders in my opinion are the lead free, and the more tin, the more likely the whisker problem shows up.
Why would RoHS directives apply to spaceflight? That would be silly.
Yes it would. Of course, RoHS is silly to begin with. Even more so with more and more electronics being recycled.
Years ago, I came across an old soldering booklet put out by IIRC Kester. Of interest was the contaminants section, with failures and defects. Many of the defects shown were by the presence of the components of modern day lead free solder.
but if the writers are going to really lean in on contemporary issues are we going to have a safe space instead of a rec room?
Are you calling Trump an SJW now?
He wrote rec room, not padded room.
How bad do things have to get for America to get their shit together?
I think we've had a really bad memory leak, and regardless, have voided our warranty.
After parthogenesis is perfected, a few women will go for it. And the rest will go for men as usual, for a variety of reasons: * More fun! * Simpler/cheaper procedure, no need for pills/equipment. A handful one-night stands is all a woman really need from men anyway. * Men are useful for painting walls, fixing car tires, removing snow, carrying stuff from shops, . . . * Alimony
That depends on how many men are going to put up with that shit. Seema a fiar number are dropping out of that mess.
I think it's like this - what is in it for men? That one night stand might get you accused of rape, or certainly you might get nailed for child support intil the offspring graduates college if you being used as an insemination utility is successful. And a man who donates sperm had better understand that he can now be liable for child support. http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/...
For those who don't want to read the link, a man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple was successfully sued for child support when the couple fell on financial hard times.
Lest we think this is a isolated case: http://www.canada.com/news/nat...
A retroactive child support suit after 20 years.
And this guy won, but tell me, you gonna donate? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pa...
So if you are willing to sign your life and fortune and good name away for a piece of ass, have at it. Just go in with both eyes open. Because if she wants your money, she's gonna get it, sepecially if you do it th eold fashioned way.
IOW, you'll get screwed multiple times and ways.
Then the women would die off because as a group they consume way more resources than they produce. Men produce more resources than they consume overall.
Tha's not what she said!
And what the fuck are you afraid they are going to do?
That dear sir, depend on what New America does. Now that we are set to reclaim our space at teh top of the heap, we might just need to show China who exactly is boss in this world.
Did they name the baby sharks Jesus II, Jesus III and Jesus IV?
After the babies bit them.
Because it is so dangerous for a man to get married and have children due to unfair family law. MGTOW. Look it up
While MGTOW is a little interesting, way too much of it is butthurt whining. But the point is taken that an increasing number of men who would make good mates for a woman have done a risk/benefit analysis, and decided that it is not worth it.
And that is kind of a problem. It's a passive avoidance, it isn't illegal. It's like avoiding smoking by not smoking. And as VR and "sex dolls" become more realistic, will only become worse.
What is worse, while stable prudent men decide to pursue their careers and keep their assets, and avoid relationships with females, the jerks and abusers won't change at all.
For human women. After parthenogenesis is perfected, Human males will become useless parasites, and can finally be eliminated, ending all of the problems on earth.
I think their pretty happy with the US's issues with TPP too. Personally, I have some huge issues with TPP of course...but it is a policy to restrict China trade-wise and even rumors of the US abandoning it has allowed China to do various maneuvering.
And if someone gets a little too frisky with China, and pulls some really dumb move, China owns something like a third of the total foreign held US debt. (don't hold me to that exact amount, suffice to say it is a Yuge amount)
Although China needs the US as badly as the US needs China, if we try to bluster our way into something stupid, just calling the debt will make for a rather unpleasant time as the world economy topples.
Yeah, well .. . Trump.
Gonna make it harder to put all the coal miners back to work though.
Aaaaand what percentage of the earths surface is covered by the UK?
That's the "Looked out my window and it was cold this morning - Take that golbal warming douchebags!" theory that he's spouting.
Now that can be of some utility. For instanceI can note that it was a fairly cold winter two years ago here in the Northeast of the US. Okay.
But the part of interest is that the other 15+ winters this century have been warmer than normal. That's a lot more interesting than "soundbite" weather.
If I wanted to play the UK denier's game I would note that I was outside doing yardwork last week in a just jeans and a T-Shirt as the temperature hit 60+ degrees F. But that was weather.
A little more interesting is that during what is statistically the coldest part of the year, it is not going to dip below feezing here for the next week. A little more more interesting, but still weather.
But with that trend continuing for years and years? Now it has become extremely interesting.
The ability of politics to trump science and the laws of physics is remarkable. It's called the "Neener-Neener effect.
'member MagicCubes?
Burned myself on them many times. Those thigs put out a lot of light though.
kids never held still for the daguerreotype, did they?
Which is why a lot of the kids photos form that time were when they were in caskets - I shit you not!
My doctor prescribed me Xanax and I feel great.!..!.!;$:)/);&;@:):63$;@/@/);),6$3@/@dhshxhfkkchehdud
Whoa, sorry I just blacked out and fell asleep with my head on the keyboard. What was I saying? I can't remember.
You were saying "Life is damn good!" 8^)
Hey! We pour the most money into our prison system, so it must be the best.
Your prison companies will be happy to make your prison system even better by increasing their profit margins.
Hard to imagine that people could not figure out that in a corporatocracy, that applting the profit motive to incarcerating humans would not lead to demands and baksheesh to incarderate more humans. If you have to make more profit every quarter, you need more prisoners, for longer periods of time. The most contradictory thing about that, is that you need to take care of the prisoners so that they live as long as possible, maximizing the profit per prisoner, while the get tough on crime crowd wants them all dead as soon as possible, so they pay as little as possible. Guess who wins?