In every Windows telemetry story we get here, the first couple comments deny the truth, then ist' soff to the races deflecting the truth to the olde Windows Versus Mac chestnut.
The post truth is strong in the Slashdeflectors.
As proof, watch this get modded down as flamebiat or troll in 3..2..1..
To get Mac OS, you have to buy a heavily overpriced computer.
You pay equivalent prices to get equivalent products from Apple's competitors, Hateboi. What Apple doesn't do is make $400 POS specials.
There is a special kind of PC user. For some reason he has to hate the competition. As you noted, if you are going to buy a comparable product, you will pay a comparable price.
Unfortunately, these guys think that it is somehow appropriate to compare the cheapest Black Friday Windows machine as an exact equivalent of a Mac Pro. And tryinf to reason with them is like talking to post-truth acolytes.
Farms are no longer being run by 'stupid farmers' with their farmhands and maids, even a smallish sized farm (in developed countries at least) these days requires agricultural, mechanical, electrical and computer engineers.
I only met one "stupid" farmer, and he was doing a rent-a-farm job in the '70's. And even he could learn. Most of the rest of them are shockingly adroit, and in many fields (pun intended).
Even fruit farms (apple farms etc) genetically engineer their trees to be smaller and lower to the ground so they're easier to pick mechanically.
One thing that makes life a lot easier for farmers is there are new varieties of crops that come into harvest at different dates, so its not an insane dash when the crops come in.
I helped at a friend's farm in the early 70's before a lot of this genetic improvement, and harvest time was brutal.
Hell, a buddy of mine who owns a cattle farm(milk), doesn't even go out and deal with milking his cows anymore. It's all automated. The only time he even has to worry about it, is when the milker can't find the teats but that maybe happens one every 2-3 days.
Wife and I were watching a show on an automated milking farm, and its nothing short of incredible. We were both fascinated by the fact that the cows would come in for milking several times a day as they saw fit. The level of care for the animals was also evident. These were seriously happy moocows.
Then she turned to me and asked "The cows voluntarily come in to get milked, and they use the machines way more often than by the older methods, so they enjoy it. I wonder what vegans would have to say to that?
From the first farmer to invent something to do more work with less they've been 'automating' it away in bits and pieces for hundreds of years.
If we take it way back, the very first "farmers" replaced foraging with their ultra simple technology. That put a lot of people out of work, taking their foraging jerbs.
It also paved the way for civilization, as it freed people for other things than just finding enough food to survive.
I'm in a marked minority here, but I expect that after the expected social upheaval, there will be net gains for humanity after the dust settles, assuming we don't decide to commit speciecide. I'm at about 60/40 that we'll kill ourselves at the moment. But if we don't, it will be a marked improvement for humanity.
Yes, that's why I kept it short and sweet. No sense in spending a lot of time, effort, or energy there.
To be fair, some women have little libido, and I know what that's like. But I've definitely been the one trying and failing to keep up, in other cases.
I wonder though, does the study take into account the non-trivial number of people who simply don't have a sex life? It is pretty easy to give up something you aren't getting anyhow.
I'm assuming that they didn't count masturbation as sex either.
What got me wondering was that the survey also included questions about giving up a favorite food. People were apparently willing to give up on that for only a month. That is showing some priorities perhaps? To give up only a favorite food - not going without.
To the present bitchfest about female sex drive and a little more info than the Huffington post article gave us https://blog.dashlane.com/stud... :
"Women are more likely than men to sacrifice a year of sex in exchange for online peace of mind (44% vs. 34% of men).
Two in five millennials (43%) say they’d also give up sex for online security.
That last number was what got me to thinking about likely flaws in the study. We have heard much on now many millennial males have simply given up on women. Perhaps this is just being willing to give up on something you don't have in the first place.
But I'm not gonna complain if he flip-flops away from stupidity and toward sanity.
He has already flip-flopped on Hillary, and now says he will not send her to prison after all. The alt-right is livid. Next, he will be telling the Mexicans that they will only have to pay for their side of the wall.
The wall apparently isn't going to happen either.
Pepe isn't gonna like this, but Il Don bnked on their 8 years of batshit insanity, and said what they wanted to hear. If people think those evil democrats were a handful after the election, wait until Pepe' finds out he's been played, yet again.
Pray for Pepe'. Pepe' will get to keep his guns, but he'l lose his food stamps and medicaid.
If you don't have a large battery array (which I do have, that's because I'm 100% off grid) then you're drawing power once the sun goes down. That means you need a baseline load from somewhere--coal most likely, hydro or nuclear, there are a some gas plants there too.
Absolutely. That isn't going to be as big of a problem as it used to be though. The Solar city batttery pack hangs on the wall, and looks to be about 3 by 3 feet by perhaps 6 inches deep.
If they want to have a battery stack that also requires some wiring work and at least one inverter (to convert from DC power to AC power). In my case I had to have two inverters because it's a "leggy" house, and two microwaves at different ends of the house plus a well kicking on wasn't going do it. There are a different strategies to wire up the shingles to feed into the power grid (if without battery) or to battery (or if that's the option). Either way that's copper and wiring and all the fun with that
Perhaps its my Amateur radio experience where so much of our equipment runs off 12 or 13.8 VDC, but I'm seeing the next big thing as settling on a DC voltage, then ditching the AC altogether for low voltage. At that point, the grid might just fall apart.
I think anybody who can be off grid should if they can--not because of silly global warming, just because it gives you independence.
/quote
I couldn't agree more, at least about the independence from the grid. Out local grid has become less and less reliable ofver the years, and hauling an emergency generator out of the shed just got pretty old pretty quick.
And even if you are willing to be considerate and bike to work instead of taking the car, your colleague will just reap the benefits of the lower gas prices and drive even more.
I forgot to add in a weird bit of irony, the guy drove a Prius. He was a different sort.
Another problem with renewables (at least where I live) is home heating and cooking. Right now I have about 8kW electric power going into my house, but I have a 25 kW natural gas powered furnace, and another 8 kW natural gas powered stove. To replace everything by electric, I would need 40kW electric hookup, or about 5 times as much. There's no way the current grid can handle that, so basically all the streets in my city would have to be ripped up and upgraded. To make things worse, demand for heating goes up sharply in the winter, when available sun goes down sharply.
None of these things are impossible to solve, but it will be very time consuming and costly, and people will vote to move the expenses forward.
Electric isn't a terribly good way to go for heat at the moment, it will probably be the last bastion of the fossil fuel to go. I did have oil, but a few years ago, I went for one of the ultra efficient gas furnaces. So efficient that the chimney is a piece of PVC pipe, and since when you extract that much heat, you have to have a condensate line running to the sewer. My calculations show I've already paid it off.
Along the way they had a world war... and they didn't have nukes.
If the pattern repeats, do not be so sure it will have the same happy ending.
Uh - yes, that was my gallows humored point! I've always said that we will probably gleefully end humanity some day. Open the football and push the buttons with tears of joy on our face, to thunderous applause. I always though that if the Abrahamic bible had a prophecy that might be true, mushroom clouds would serve as an adequate rapture.
Hey - it's a pretty day out - enough of this shit. 8^)
No, I don't believe it's "too late". I believe too few people are willing to make sacrifices now in order to improve a far away future to make a difference. That was true 30 years ago, it's still true today, and it will be true 30 years from now.
Pretty much this. When I was discussing energy sources with a very conservative colleague of mine, and me stating the need to develop technology so that future generations aren't disrupted by peak oil and it's decline, his response was - and I shit you not - "Fuck future generations, I don't give a fuck about them! I want my power and gasoline now, and if they don't have any, Fuck'em, I don't care. They can develop their own technology after we run out, so they can quit wasting my money."
Yes, I forgot to add that we will also stop extracting fossil fuels from the ground when we get a cheaper alternative. We're still a long way away from that, though.
It will probably come sooner than most of us think. I've been surprised so far, and I'm a big supporter of renewables. I suspect that one's confidence in renewables depends on who we listen to. I have a friend or two who believes that Germany is sunnier than the US, as was claimed by an expert a few years ago.
I think this is why so many slashdotter's can't believe that Musk's solar shingle idea is possible. A few of us can't even get over the concept that when the sun goes down, that we can use energy storage to get power during the night, or that the methods used to store power that are in use by traditional power sources can be used by solar and wind as well.
The greenhouse effect and AGW are true. However, there's nothing we will do to change the course. Global CO2 emissions will stop when the fossil fuels are all extracted from the ground, not a moment sooner. At best we can tinker a bit to slow it down, but that only means delaying that end point by a few years.
This is a common mistake people make. There will be no last of the fossil fuels extracted. At some point, it will just become economically unfeasible to do that. As other energy technologies become ascendent, and less expensive, we won't be able to profit from the extraction of coal and oil. Natural gas is ironically aiding the shift to solar and wind.
This point will be reached long before the last nugget of coal is removed.
"The gases that make up the positive influences on temperatures aren't as short term"
mm, trying to erase ice ages now?
you might want to tell the ice ages that..
Not certain what you are trying to refer to. In the context of the post, I was Responding to SuperKendall's remarks about temperature spikes noting they can go either positive or negative, with different gases. And that was factual. Sulfur dioxide is a powerful anti-greenhouse gas which can cool temperatures globally after large volcanic eruptions. It doesn't last long, forming sulfuric acid droplets which then rain out of the atmosphere.
Short term positive temp swings are harder to come by, as CO2 spends more time in the atmosphere, methane somewhat less, but not in the year long time frame.
Believe me, I can understand how nothing would seem funny when you've got a stick up your ass.
Oh my gawd - you went there! You, the famous Dutch gun, went to the darkest recesses of Slashdot, and made a stick up your ass jab.
Will we be treated to homophobic haiku next?
Regardless, if this is your idea of humor, it's pretty easy to see that we are in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.!
Stick up his ass indeed, are you even old enough to be on this site? But I gotta break it to ya Dutch Gun, you aren't very funny, just sound angry and frustrated.
You do realize that statement merely shows that you are among the exceptionally easily manipulated.
You do realize with that little diatribe, you've demonstrated that you're among those that have their panties in a twist about this particular topic.
A forceful attack? That's what a diatribe is. Dear Dutch Gun, you have no idea!
Unless you have no sense of humor at all, of course.
Good luck with that, and lighten up, Francis.
I've been accused of many things, few would have humorless on that list. But if that was an attempt at humor on your part to say that hearing from people who believe in AGW, was enough to make you become a denier, you might need a little work in that department yourself.
6) Get fed up and go back to being a "denier" just to spite those that keep shoving the almost-daily environmental doom and gloom reports down our throats, when we're just here for interesting tech news.
You do realize that statement merely shows that you are among the exceptionally easily manipulated. Unless you are self destructive as well, you never believed in the greenhouse effect.
Salute the idiot in chief who does deny that global warming and rising seas are an issue at all. America is under attack by an total freak. Frankenzilla is on the attack. Vlad Trumpula is sucking the life blood out of the world. Fight back while you can or the fool will kill us all with his secret weapon (total idiocy).
Now now, you are getting hysterical. This too shall pass. In the 30's and mid 40's Germany fell upon some hard times. But today, it's a great place.
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Utter BS. My laptop is FAR superior to any Macbook and cost significantly less.
What is it?
You pay equivalent prices to get equivalent products from Apple's competitors, Hateboi. What Apple doesn't do is make $400 POS specials.
There is a special kind of PC user. For some reason he has to hate the competition. As you noted, if you are going to buy a comparable product, you will pay a comparable price.
Unfortunately, these guys think that it is somehow appropriate to compare the cheapest Black Friday Windows machine as an exact equivalent of a Mac Pro. And tryinf to reason with them is like talking to post-truth acolytes.
People hurt themselves with sex all the time. Even just chafing.
Bet you they don't show you that.
Rule 34 says you are wrong. I'm not going to look it up tho'
Farms are no longer being run by 'stupid farmers' with their farmhands and maids, even a smallish sized farm (in developed countries at least) these days requires agricultural, mechanical, electrical and computer engineers.
I only met one "stupid" farmer, and he was doing a rent-a-farm job in the '70's. And even he could learn. Most of the rest of them are shockingly adroit, and in many fields (pun intended).
Even fruit farms (apple farms etc) genetically engineer their trees to be smaller and lower to the ground so they're easier to pick mechanically.
One thing that makes life a lot easier for farmers is there are new varieties of crops that come into harvest at different dates, so its not an insane dash when the crops come in.
I helped at a friend's farm in the early 70's before a lot of this genetic improvement, and harvest time was brutal.
Hell, a buddy of mine who owns a cattle farm(milk), doesn't even go out and deal with milking his cows anymore. It's all automated. The only time he even has to worry about it, is when the milker can't find the teats but that maybe happens one every 2-3 days.
Wife and I were watching a show on an automated milking farm, and its nothing short of incredible. We were both fascinated by the fact that the cows would come in for milking several times a day as they saw fit. The level of care for the animals was also evident. These were seriously happy moocows.
Then she turned to me and asked "The cows voluntarily come in to get milked, and they use the machines way more often than by the older methods, so they enjoy it. I wonder what vegans would have to say to that?
It's history has been.
From the first farmer to invent something to do more work with less they've been 'automating' it away in bits and pieces for hundreds of years.
If we take it way back, the very first "farmers" replaced foraging with their ultra simple technology. That put a lot of people out of work, taking their foraging jerbs.
It also paved the way for civilization, as it freed people for other things than just finding enough food to survive.
I'm in a marked minority here, but I expect that after the expected social upheaval, there will be net gains for humanity after the dust settles, assuming we don't decide to commit speciecide. I'm at about 60/40 that we'll kill ourselves at the moment. But if we don't, it will be a marked improvement for humanity.
Won't matter.
Yes, that's why I kept it short and sweet. No sense in spending a lot of time, effort, or energy there.
To be fair, some women have little libido, and I know what that's like. But I've definitely been the one trying and failing to keep up, in other cases.
I wonder though, does the study take into account the non-trivial number of people who simply don't have a sex life? It is pretty easy to give up something you aren't getting anyhow.
I'm assuming that they didn't count masturbation as sex either. What got me wondering was that the survey also included questions about giving up a favorite food. People were apparently willing to give up on that for only a month. That is showing some priorities perhaps? To give up only a favorite food - not going without.
To the present bitchfest about female sex drive and a little more info than the Huffington post article gave us https://blog.dashlane.com/stud... :
"Women are more likely than men to sacrifice a year of sex in exchange for online peace of mind (44% vs. 34% of men).
Two in five millennials (43%) say they’d also give up sex for online security.
That last number was what got me to thinking about likely flaws in the study. We have heard much on now many millennial males have simply given up on women. Perhaps this is just being willing to give up on something you don't have in the first place.
We're gonna know who all is screwing everyone's mother
Browse to your site. Does it offer an Angler exploit kit?
You have to go to forbes.com for that.
I find it increasingly difficult to excuse people for using "smartphones" because they spy on everyone constantly.
But you are okay with cellphone tracking? It's kind of impossible to avoid, being the basis upon which the system works.
Smartphones that don't have GPS are also a thing. None of my smartphones have ever had GPS.
If you connect to their network, they have a pretty good idea where you are, especially if you are moving.
Next thing you know, some of these people will figure out just how the cellular system works.
It isn't specifically designed to track us, but it has to know where we are. Even on a flip phone.
Obligatory Florida Man story http://www.techtimes.com/artic...
They just tracked him using the cell phone towers.
I'm seeing Slashdot Man conundrums with a cell phone jammer on a drone.
They approve of the jammer, but they have to shoot down the drone.
But I'm not gonna complain if he flip-flops away from stupidity and toward sanity.
He has already flip-flopped on Hillary, and now says he will not send her to prison after all. The alt-right is livid. Next, he will be telling the Mexicans that they will only have to pay for their side of the wall.
The wall apparently isn't going to happen either.
Pepe isn't gonna like this, but Il Don bnked on their 8 years of batshit insanity, and said what they wanted to hear. If people think those evil democrats were a handful after the election, wait until Pepe' finds out he's been played, yet again.
Pray for Pepe'. Pepe' will get to keep his guns, but he'l lose his food stamps and medicaid.
If you don't have a large battery array (which I do have, that's because I'm 100% off grid) then you're drawing power once the sun goes down. That means you need a baseline load from somewhere--coal most likely, hydro or nuclear, there are a some gas plants there too.
Absolutely. That isn't going to be as big of a problem as it used to be though. The Solar city batttery pack hangs on the wall, and looks to be about 3 by 3 feet by perhaps 6 inches deep.
If they want to have a battery stack that also requires some wiring work and at least one inverter (to convert from DC power to AC power). In my case I had to have two inverters because it's a "leggy" house, and two microwaves at different ends of the house plus a well kicking on wasn't going do it. There are a different strategies to wire up the shingles to feed into the power grid (if without battery) or to battery (or if that's the option). Either way that's copper and wiring and all the fun with that
Perhaps its my Amateur radio experience where so much of our equipment runs off 12 or 13.8 VDC, but I'm seeing the next big thing as settling on a DC voltage, then ditching the AC altogether for low voltage. At that point, the grid might just fall apart.
I think anybody who can be off grid should if they can--not because of silly global warming, just because it gives you independence.
/quote I couldn't agree more, at least about the independence from the grid. Out local grid has become less and less reliable ofver the years, and hauling an emergency generator out of the shed just got pretty old pretty quick.
And even if you are willing to be considerate and bike to work instead of taking the car, your colleague will just reap the benefits of the lower gas prices and drive even more.
I forgot to add in a weird bit of irony, the guy drove a Prius. He was a different sort.
Another problem with renewables (at least where I live) is home heating and cooking. Right now I have about 8kW electric power going into my house, but I have a 25 kW natural gas powered furnace, and another 8 kW natural gas powered stove. To replace everything by electric, I would need 40kW electric hookup, or about 5 times as much. There's no way the current grid can handle that, so basically all the streets in my city would have to be ripped up and upgraded. To make things worse, demand for heating goes up sharply in the winter, when available sun goes down sharply. None of these things are impossible to solve, but it will be very time consuming and costly, and people will vote to move the expenses forward.
Electric isn't a terribly good way to go for heat at the moment, it will probably be the last bastion of the fossil fuel to go. I did have oil, but a few years ago, I went for one of the ultra efficient gas furnaces. So efficient that the chimney is a piece of PVC pipe, and since when you extract that much heat, you have to have a condensate line running to the sewer. My calculations show I've already paid it off.
Along the way they had a world war... and they didn't have nukes.
If the pattern repeats, do not be so sure it will have the same happy ending.
Uh - yes, that was my gallows humored point! I've always said that we will probably gleefully end humanity some day. Open the football and push the buttons with tears of joy on our face, to thunderous applause. I always though that if the Abrahamic bible had a prophecy that might be true, mushroom clouds would serve as an adequate rapture.
Hey - it's a pretty day out - enough of this shit. 8^)
No, I don't believe it's "too late". I believe too few people are willing to make sacrifices now in order to improve a far away future to make a difference. That was true 30 years ago, it's still true today, and it will be true 30 years from now.
Pretty much this. When I was discussing energy sources with a very conservative colleague of mine, and me stating the need to develop technology so that future generations aren't disrupted by peak oil and it's decline, his response was - and I shit you not - "Fuck future generations, I don't give a fuck about them! I want my power and gasoline now, and if they don't have any, Fuck'em, I don't care. They can develop their own technology after we run out, so they can quit wasting my money."
That left a lasting impression on me.
Yes, I forgot to add that we will also stop extracting fossil fuels from the ground when we get a cheaper alternative. We're still a long way away from that, though.
It will probably come sooner than most of us think. I've been surprised so far, and I'm a big supporter of renewables. I suspect that one's confidence in renewables depends on who we listen to. I have a friend or two who believes that Germany is sunnier than the US, as was claimed by an expert a few years ago.
I think this is why so many slashdotter's can't believe that Musk's solar shingle idea is possible. A few of us can't even get over the concept that when the sun goes down, that we can use energy storage to get power during the night, or that the methods used to store power that are in use by traditional power sources can be used by solar and wind as well.
The greenhouse effect and AGW are true. However, there's nothing we will do to change the course. Global CO2 emissions will stop when the fossil fuels are all extracted from the ground, not a moment sooner. At best we can tinker a bit to slow it down, but that only means delaying that end point by a few years.
This is a common mistake people make. There will be no last of the fossil fuels extracted. At some point, it will just become economically unfeasible to do that. As other energy technologies become ascendent, and less expensive, we won't be able to profit from the extraction of coal and oil. Natural gas is ironically aiding the shift to solar and wind.
This point will be reached long before the last nugget of coal is removed.
"The gases that make up the positive influences on temperatures aren't as short term"
mm, trying to erase ice ages now?
you might want to tell the ice ages that..
Not certain what you are trying to refer to. In the context of the post, I was Responding to SuperKendall's remarks about temperature spikes noting they can go either positive or negative, with different gases. And that was factual. Sulfur dioxide is a powerful anti-greenhouse gas which can cool temperatures globally after large volcanic eruptions. It doesn't last long, forming sulfuric acid droplets which then rain out of the atmosphere.
Short term positive temp swings are harder to come by, as CO2 spends more time in the atmosphere, methane somewhat less, but not in the year long time frame.
Believe me, I can understand how nothing would seem funny when you've got a stick up your ass.
Oh my gawd - you went there! You, the famous Dutch gun, went to the darkest recesses of Slashdot, and made a stick up your ass jab.
Will we be treated to homophobic haiku next?
Regardless, if this is your idea of humor, it's pretty easy to see that we are in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.!
Stick up his ass indeed, are you even old enough to be on this site? But I gotta break it to ya Dutch Gun, you aren't very funny, just sound angry and frustrated.
You do realize that statement merely shows that you are among the exceptionally easily manipulated.
You do realize with that little diatribe, you've demonstrated that you're among those that have their panties in a twist about this particular topic.
A forceful attack? That's what a diatribe is. Dear Dutch Gun, you have no idea!
Unless you have no sense of humor at all, of course.
Good luck with that, and lighten up, Francis.
I've been accused of many things, few would have humorless on that list. But if that was an attempt at humor on your part to say that hearing from people who believe in AGW, was enough to make you become a denier, you might need a little work in that department yourself.
6) Get fed up and go back to being a "denier" just to spite those that keep shoving the almost-daily environmental doom and gloom reports down our throats, when we're just here for interesting tech news.
You do realize that statement merely shows that you are among the exceptionally easily manipulated. Unless you are self destructive as well, you never believed in the greenhouse effect.
Good luck with that, Pepe'.
Salute the idiot in chief who does deny that global warming and rising seas are an issue at all. America is under attack by an total freak. Frankenzilla is on the attack. Vlad Trumpula is sucking the life blood out of the world. Fight back while you can or the fool will kill us all with his secret weapon (total idiocy).
Now now, you are getting hysterical. This too shall pass. In the 30's and mid 40's Germany fell upon some hard times. But today, it's a great place.