That depends entirely upon how much you're being paid to be on call 24/7. To use an old expression, "every man has his price," and if you're being paid enough to feasibly retire in a short timespan on the earnings, it sort of changes the economics of the matter. -PCP
Whoa! I replied to the guy with exactly that situation. Then I read your post.
I gotta say, retirement at a young age, beats the living shit outta working those extra 12+ years.
If you are on call 24/7, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices...
Why? I made a very nice living by being on call. Nice enough to retire at 55. Now I'm not on call at all.
A lot of the people who thought I was crazy are now re-evaluating their own life choices, because after finally doing the realmath, they "plan" on never retiring - assuming health issues or a forced retirement analogue doesn't get them.
Like emergencies. Can the phones be retrieved quickly enough in the "fog of war". Can a police situation be recorded?
Are you one of those people who panic when the little notification on the phone says "No Service"? I know several who have become so worried by the "what if" scenarios that they get all nervous even if it dips out of LTE these days. I do have personal experience in students losing letter grades because they wouldn't put their cellphones in a pouch for a required lecture attendance. Which is all to say that they were more worried about (fill in the blank) than passing a course
This isn't aimed at you specifically, but what I am seeing in society. If it is so important to you as an individual that you never are witout immediate access to that little smartphone, you probably shouldn't go to any shows. Something that 20 years ago didn't exist is now controlling your life, and as likely as not, you don't feel even a little more secure.
That's why I am really concerned about the home surveillance systems offered today. They always show some parent - usually a mother, all pleased and relieved because the surveillance camera shows her children getting home from school, or the pets are safe.
If this follows the smartphone path, mom or dad will be checking more and more often - after all "what if one of the children hurts themselves while I'm not looking, or what if a burglar or rapist breaks into the house at that moment when I'm not watching?" So next thing you know, mom and dad are paranoid as all hell, and watching over their house at all times. Work/vacation/ during sex....
If smartphones are any indicator, this is the future.
I'm not in the US, but my understanding from afar is that Hillary's 'deplorables' gaffe was accompanied by a measurable swing toward Trump.
Hard to say. Pick a poll, and pick an answer, pprobably based on what the answerer wants. Iv'e seen people call it her 47% moment - recalling Mitt Romney in the previous election, and others saying it didn't hurt her at all.
And phone footage of Momentum meetings has shown activists scheming to have moderate politicians deselected (essentially removed from office for those not familiar with UK politics). There has definitely been a backlash in the polls against these revelations.
So, yes, election campaigns can definitely be affected by mobile phone footage.
IIRC, that was how the 47% Romney chitchat was obtained.
And for all of the brouhaha over the DNC leaks that show favoring Clinton over Sanders, odd how people forget the old Permanent Republican majority movement, where Republicans targeted other Republicans who were deemed "too moderate". This is merely politics at work, but with a new wild card. Whether this eating your young policy is manifested in their current presidential candidate might make for good discussion.
Heaven knows it is a cautionary tale of catering to your most extreme and irrational base, something akin if the Democrats catered to the extreme far left kooks.
I did not make a single mention of Hillary killing anyone. I eluded to a strange murder related to the DNC leaks to discredit the allegation that Russia is responsible.
Go take your medication and leave the sane people alone.
I remember you. You're the guy who demands absoluute control of a topic. Well, tough you insulting person. The murder you alluded to is one of the more than 50 murders tht the lady is supposed to have made happen. All part of tha amazing deaths caused by the Terror family from Arkansas.
So whether you like it or not, you broached the subject. And your "not making a single mention of Hillary" is so Trumpian.. I''ve been hearing - now I'm not sure, but a lot of people have been saying, and it is mysterious isn't it, another one of those people who just disappear orm the face of the earth - it's sad though, who knows? But seems that a lot of people die, and we need to look into that.
Is it possible for you to make an intelligent post, or do you have to rely on silly pejoratives as the major thrust of your argument?
What you describe sounds like some conservatives, yourself included. The ones who want to silence criticism (like the Eich debacle) and inflict their dogma on others (like so called "religious freedom" and "bathroom bills").
I see the left/right thing as more of a circle than a spectrum. Because as people go further to right or left, they spout different rhetoric, but in principle operate the same. The furthest reaches of each, are totalitarian.
An SJW might be a modern day weak woman feminist, or they might be a evangelical social conservative. Different yap patterns, but always willing to dictate how others must act in minute detail.
I'd be happy to leave wiser minds than mine that decision though... if only governments (or even the exchanges themselves) had the courage to implement the system in the first place.
Not certain if there are any wiser minds, because you pretty much nailed it. Moderators, get this to +5 informative where it should be.
You make it sound like the entire CIA is stupid as f*ck, don't you think they know about proxies? Everybody knows about them, they exist for years and still hackers are arrested.. Why do you think that happens? Right, cause proxies aren't some magic fix for everything
Dunning–Kruger effect. If one does something on the intertoobz, they can be found. It just depends on whether the effort is justified. My IP's and phone numbers were just devices to move the conversation forward.
And in this case, effort is justified. The one sided nature of the hacks, and some other history makes this really interesting.
But then you have the people who hate both parties (but not everyone in them) and still want proof. My vote (deployed military) went to Gary Johnson, and I do not want Clinton or Trump elected, but I still think we need proof. You can't think of everything as a partisan issue.
Looks like you forgot to check the Anonymous Coward box there, Olsoc.
Classy reply.
A guy goes full potato, calling someone who disagrees with him the classic All Caps gay pejoratives under his name, I point it out, and I'm the one who should be afraid to post under my real pseudonym?
Trump does a good enough job on his own to prove he's unfit. Hillary is much more effective in the silencing criticism and in the suppressing evidence department.
Voting for either of those clowns is insane.
Yeah, she's killed 52 people now, not to mention th eones Bill had killed over his career.
Vote Cthlulu - why settle for the lesser of evils?
Does anyone remember the Iraq war? It took 9 years and cost us $2 trillion, caused half a million civilian deaths, 4500 American serviceman deaths, and several hundred American amputees.
Don't be a gloomy Gus, negative one! Halliburton made out like a bandit on that one, so its all good.
I think it's entirely reasonable that, before we go to war with a fukkin' nuclear power, that we be shown some of the evidence first.
Calling people who want proof "trolls" is the oldest trick in the book. It's the sign of a completely unsupportable position.
Troll or not, not many people who disbelieve it will not accept any proof. Certainly the beneficiary of the hacks, Donald Trump, refused to believe na actual intel breifing on the subject. He says: "I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?"
During the second presidential debate he declared: "Maybe there is no hacking,"
So yes, it is possible thatthe Democrats hacked their own computer, but you have to look at the evidence:
Who loses, who benefits, and what is the motive.
Obviously, the DEmocrats have been embarassed by these leaks.
The Republicans have been the beneficiaries
The motive? Pretty obvious, which is to get Trump elected as president.
Now how would have the wherewithal to do such a thing, and have a reason to help the Republicans as well, specifically Trump.
And why has data form the GOP not been leaked. The party that outed Valerie Plame and Fabricated Evidence to get us into war with Iraq, and is proud of it probably has more interesting things than the DNC's promotion of Clinton over Sanders, and her Wall Street speeches. Not sayin', just sayin'.
You can draw your own conclusions, but a police detective would consider those issues a fine place to start looking.
And those are the publically accessible things. You do know that some things gotta be kept from the public for a while. Then again, there are people who believe that FDR planned Pearl Harbor as a ploy to get us into WW2, and that the holocaust never happened. Which speaks to my first paragraph.
SoI could see the conspiracists claiming that the Kenyan terror baby did this because of whatever weird ass reason, maybe in order to take our guns away and put everyone in FEMA death camps something, like he was going to do for the last 8 years
Even if they are proven..... really shitty behavior, some of it even criminal, was exposed that we as voters certainly have a right to know about. How dare they expose deep-rooted corruption!
You figure a pogram would be good? Extraordinary rendition on every one of your political enemies, the rel thing, non if this wiimpy waterboarding. Beat 'em within an inch of their lives first, then take dying statements and all evil will be banished form the world if only we realize that th eends justify the means.
Dood! Here's a good question.
All of the shit coming out has been about those Demoncrats.
Given your anything is good, legal or not outlook, did you ever wonder why it's only the democrats? Or are you saying that the Republicans are as pur as the driven snow, corrution free, and it was actuall Hillary who outed Valerie plamce and squelched intel in order to lie to get us into settling Bushe's family feud.
Whoever is doing the hacking has a distinct target.
Statements by 'anonymous government sources' don't count.
The Russian hacks of the state election systems were not announced by "anonymous sources". They came directly from the FBI, as well as election officials in Arizona (red state) and Illinois (blue state). Oh, and Florida (red state).
Remember tho' - these Einsteins believe that the FBI is in on the Fix, cuz you know, they didn't put Grandma in a pantssuit in front of a firing squad.
So we should trust the government? They wouldn't lie to us, right? It's not like the worst US military diasters in history, the Vietnam War and the Iraq war, were started based on false pretenses or anything. Yes, let's just fucking nuke Russia because THE GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T LIE TO YOU YOU FUCKING COCK GOBBLING FAGGOT.
It's Saturday night....Saturday night. You kinda tip your hand that you don't believe it, and have absolutely no intention of ever believing it. You're the other side of the coin of your "cock gobbling faggot" buddy.
Now insult me with all caps screed projector person. that's kinda hot.
If you're claiming that evidence exists, then the burden of proof falls on you.
If no evidence is forthcoming, then your claim is baseless. We owe it to ourselves to demand proof before stirring the pudding. Especially after Iraq.
How soon we forget.
After all we all have the credentials to access that sort of thing. If Dubya were still in office would you accept his pronouncement as teh truth? Or how about Trump, the Candidate of the GOP - otherwise known as the Grab Our Pussy party?
Because we've yet to be shown a single shred of evidence to back up the claim. Statements by 'anonymous government sources' don't count.
Perhaps you might tell us why this is the case? Seriously - you figeu=re intel is going to give us IP addresses, phone numbers and all? Or are you an alt.right person who wouldn't believe any evidence anyhow.
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That depends entirely upon how much you're being paid to be on call 24/7. To use an old expression, "every man has his price," and if you're being paid enough to feasibly retire in a short timespan on the earnings, it sort of changes the economics of the matter. -PCP
Whoa! I replied to the guy with exactly that situation. Then I read your post.
I gotta say, retirement at a young age, beats the living shit outta working those extra 12+ years.
If you are on call 24/7, you really need to re-evaluate your life choices...
Why? I made a very nice living by being on call. Nice enough to retire at 55. Now I'm not on call at all.
A lot of the people who thought I was crazy are now re-evaluating their own life choices, because after finally doing the realmath, they "plan" on never retiring - assuming health issues or a forced retirement analogue doesn't get them.
Doctors are a big user of old school pagers.
Like emergencies. Can the phones be retrieved quickly enough in the "fog of war". Can a police situation be recorded?
Are you one of those people who panic when the little notification on the phone says "No Service"? I know several who have become so worried by the "what if" scenarios that they get all nervous even if it dips out of LTE these days. I do have personal experience in students losing letter grades because they wouldn't put their cellphones in a pouch for a required lecture attendance. Which is all to say that they were more worried about (fill in the blank) than passing a course
This isn't aimed at you specifically, but what I am seeing in society. If it is so important to you as an individual that you never are witout immediate access to that little smartphone, you probably shouldn't go to any shows. Something that 20 years ago didn't exist is now controlling your life, and as likely as not, you don't feel even a little more secure.
That's why I am really concerned about the home surveillance systems offered today. They always show some parent - usually a mother, all pleased and relieved because the surveillance camera shows her children getting home from school, or the pets are safe.
If this follows the smartphone path, mom or dad will be checking more and more often - after all "what if one of the children hurts themselves while I'm not looking, or what if a burglar or rapist breaks into the house at that moment when I'm not watching?" So next thing you know, mom and dad are paranoid as all hell, and watching over their house at all times. Work/vacation/ during sex....
If smartphones are any indicator, this is the future.
I'm not in the US, but my understanding from afar is that Hillary's 'deplorables' gaffe was accompanied by a measurable swing toward Trump.
Hard to say. Pick a poll, and pick an answer, pprobably based on what the answerer wants. Iv'e seen people call it her 47% moment - recalling Mitt Romney in the previous election, and others saying it didn't hurt her at all.
And phone footage of Momentum meetings has shown activists scheming to have moderate politicians deselected (essentially removed from office for those not familiar with UK politics). There has definitely been a backlash in the polls against these revelations.
So, yes, election campaigns can definitely be affected by mobile phone footage.
IIRC, that was how the 47% Romney chitchat was obtained.
And for all of the brouhaha over the DNC leaks that show favoring Clinton over Sanders, odd how people forget the old Permanent Republican majority movement, where Republicans targeted other Republicans who were deemed "too moderate". This is merely politics at work, but with a new wild card. Whether this eating your young policy is manifested in their current presidential candidate might make for good discussion.
Heaven knows it is a cautionary tale of catering to your most extreme and irrational base, something akin if the Democrats catered to the extreme far left kooks.
I eluded
You escaped our understanding? Oh, wait, you did.
Yeah, I decided he might have actually meant that, so I decided to not mention it after I took my meds as dictated.
I did not make a single mention of Hillary killing anyone. I eluded to a strange murder related to the DNC leaks to discredit the allegation that Russia is responsible.
Go take your medication and leave the sane people alone.
I remember you. You're the guy who demands absoluute control of a topic. Well, tough you insulting person. The murder you alluded to is one of the more than 50 murders tht the lady is supposed to have made happen. All part of tha amazing deaths caused by the Terror family from Arkansas.
So whether you like it or not, you broached the subject. And your "not making a single mention of Hillary" is so Trumpian.. I''ve been hearing - now I'm not sure, but a lot of people have been saying, and it is mysterious isn't it, another one of those people who just disappear orm the face of the earth - it's sad though, who knows? But seems that a lot of people die, and we need to look into that.
Is it possible for you to make an intelligent post, or do you have to rely on silly pejoratives as the major thrust of your argument?
What you describe sounds like some conservatives, yourself included. The ones who want to silence criticism (like the Eich debacle) and inflict their dogma on others (like so called "religious freedom" and "bathroom bills").
I see the left/right thing as more of a circle than a spectrum. Because as people go further to right or left, they spout different rhetoric, but in principle operate the same. The furthest reaches of each, are totalitarian.
An SJW might be a modern day weak woman feminist, or they might be a evangelical social conservative. Different yap patterns, but always willing to dictate how others must act in minute detail.
I'd be happy to leave wiser minds than mine that decision though... if only governments (or even the exchanges themselves) had the courage to implement the system in the first place.
Not certain if there are any wiser minds, because you pretty much nailed it. Moderators, get this to +5 informative where it should be.
You make it sound like the entire CIA is stupid as f*ck, don't you think they know about proxies? Everybody knows about them, they exist for years and still hackers are arrested.. Why do you think that happens? Right, cause proxies aren't some magic fix for everything
Dunning–Kruger effect. If one does something on the intertoobz, they can be found. It just depends on whether the effort is justified. My IP's and phone numbers were just devices to move the conversation forward.
And in this case, effort is justified. The one sided nature of the hacks, and some other history makes this really interesting.
OT: "Grippeth". You are using the present participle instead of the imperative.
"Thou mayst needs be myndfull, lest he grippith thine wench by ye pudenda"
Grammar corrections on jokes? Dood!
But then you have the people who hate both parties (but not everyone in them) and still want proof. My vote (deployed military) went to Gary Johnson, and I do not want Clinton or Trump elected, but I still think we need proof. You can't think of everything as a partisan issue.
I dunno the parties of the conspiracists.
Looks like you forgot to check the Anonymous Coward box there, Olsoc. Classy reply.
A guy goes full potato, calling someone who disagrees with him the classic All Caps gay pejoratives under his name, I point it out, and I'm the one who should be afraid to post under my real pseudonym?
I wrote that, and I'd write it again.
Funny how he is modded up 5 and all you have is your shit karma +2.
You replied to me within 5 minutes of my post. Now drink your warm milk and hit the hay - mum will tuck you in.
Trump does a good enough job on his own to prove he's unfit. Hillary is much more effective in the silencing criticism and in the suppressing evidence department.
Voting for either of those clowns is insane.
Yeah, she's killed 52 people now, not to mention th eones Bill had killed over his career.
Vote Cthlulu - why settle for the lesser of evils?
Does anyone remember the Iraq war? It took 9 years and cost us $2 trillion, caused half a million civilian deaths, 4500 American serviceman deaths, and several hundred American amputees.
Don't be a gloomy Gus, negative one! Halliburton made out like a bandit on that one, so its all good.
I think it's entirely reasonable that, before we go to war with a fukkin' nuclear power, that we be shown some of the evidence first.
Do you disagree?
I don't declare anyone decalring war on anyone.
So can you link me to the proof then, you bloodthirsty warmongering faggot?
My my, are you the projecting guy who turns everything into something gay? You forgot to post as AC.
Now call me a faggot! That'd be hot!
"The FBI, and the election officials in Arizona (R), Illinois (D) and Florida (R) could all be lying!
It's not proven until Breitbart, SputnikINT and RT.com say it is."
TRumpster already said it was a 400 pound guy sitting on his bed, or maybe didn't happen at all.
Calling people who want proof "trolls" is the oldest trick in the book. It's the sign of a completely unsupportable position.
Troll or not, not many people who disbelieve it will not accept any proof. Certainly the beneficiary of the hacks, Donald Trump, refused to believe na actual intel breifing on the subject. He says: "I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?" During the second presidential debate he declared: "Maybe there is no hacking,"
So yes, it is possible thatthe Democrats hacked their own computer, but you have to look at the evidence:
Who loses, who benefits, and what is the motive.
Obviously, the DEmocrats have been embarassed by these leaks.
The Republicans have been the beneficiaries
The motive? Pretty obvious, which is to get Trump elected as president.
Now how would have the wherewithal to do such a thing, and have a reason to help the Republicans as well, specifically Trump.
And why has data form the GOP not been leaked. The party that outed Valerie Plame and Fabricated Evidence to get us into war with Iraq, and is proud of it probably has more interesting things than the DNC's promotion of Clinton over Sanders, and her Wall Street speeches. Not sayin', just sayin'.
You can draw your own conclusions, but a police detective would consider those issues a fine place to start looking.
And those are the publically accessible things. You do know that some things gotta be kept from the public for a while. Then again, there are people who believe that FDR planned Pearl Harbor as a ploy to get us into WW2, and that the holocaust never happened. Which speaks to my first paragraph.
SoI could see the conspiracists claiming that the Kenyan terror baby did this because of whatever weird ass reason, maybe in order to take our guns away and put everyone in FEMA death camps something, like he was going to do for the last 8 years
Even if they are proven..... really shitty behavior, some of it even criminal, was exposed that we as voters certainly have a right to know about. How dare they expose deep-rooted corruption!
You figure a pogram would be good? Extraordinary rendition on every one of your political enemies, the rel thing, non if this wiimpy waterboarding. Beat 'em within an inch of their lives first, then take dying statements and all evil will be banished form the world if only we realize that th eends justify the means.
Dood! Here's a good question.
All of the shit coming out has been about those Demoncrats.
Given your anything is good, legal or not outlook, did you ever wonder why it's only the democrats? Or are you saying that the Republicans are as pur as the driven snow, corrution free, and it was actuall Hillary who outed Valerie plamce and squelched intel in order to lie to get us into settling Bushe's family feud.
Whoever is doing the hacking has a distinct target.
Cool story bro, she can be totally invincible one moment, then jaw droppingly incompetent the next.
Say, are you one of those guys that moans Benghazi!.....Benghazi! when you nut?
The Russian hacks of the state election systems were not announced by "anonymous sources". They came directly from the FBI, as well as election officials in Arizona (red state) and Illinois (blue state). Oh, and Florida (red state).
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/...
https://www.theguardian.com/te...
Remember tho' - these Einsteins believe that the FBI is in on the Fix, cuz you know, they didn't put Grandma in a pantssuit in front of a firing squad.
So we should trust the government? They wouldn't lie to us, right? It's not like the worst US military diasters in history, the Vietnam War and the Iraq war, were started based on false pretenses or anything. Yes, let's just fucking nuke Russia because THE GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T LIE TO YOU YOU FUCKING COCK GOBBLING FAGGOT.
It's Saturday night....Saturday night. You kinda tip your hand that you don't believe it, and have absolutely no intention of ever believing it. You're the other side of the coin of your "cock gobbling faggot" buddy.
Now insult me with all caps screed projector person. that's kinda hot.
If you're claiming that evidence exists, then the burden of proof falls on you. If no evidence is forthcoming, then your claim is baseless. We owe it to ourselves to demand proof before stirring the pudding. Especially after Iraq. How soon we forget.
After all we all have the credentials to access that sort of thing. If Dubya were still in office would you accept his pronouncement as teh truth? Or how about Trump, the Candidate of the GOP - otherwise known as the Grab Our Pussy party?
Because we've yet to be shown a single shred of evidence to back up the claim. Statements by 'anonymous government sources' don't count.
Perhaps you might tell us why this is the case? Seriously - you figeu=re intel is going to give us IP addresses, phone numbers and all? Or are you an alt.right person who wouldn't believe any evidence anyhow.
Here's your cohort where I confirm your alt.right street cred. http://www.chicagotribune.com/...
You might try for a position on old pussy grabber's staff, after he is elected.