It wouldn't be that way if MS said "64-bit only" when they started talking about Windows 7.
XP licensing for netbooks only? WTF is this bullshit. I've heard this FUD for almost a year now. I can STILL go to Dell's site and get XP on a regular desktop.
AMD could have always made chips for other companies.
You stated the real reason. FABs were expensive. AMD couldn't compete. Now AMD will be getting a special rate at that FAB, so it can compete with Intel, and the shitty finances will transfer over to the FAB company.
The FAB company will be able to get away with huge losses and debt for a year or two since they're a "new company looking to establish themselves" and other such bullshit. They're wearing a new face in order to try to get new investors.
Because having 2 versions makes shit harder for those who make hardware, for consumers who are confused, and for software developers, who will take the lazy route and support 32-bit primarily, while shafting the 64-bit users with shoddy, half-assed implementations and support.
64-bit is fucking awesome when done right. In many cases you can get more than double the performance vs 32-bit (anything to do with photos, audio, video, etc. decoding, editing, encoding, etc, or sciency shit, or porn simulators.). Add on the ability to natively address more RAM than the paltry 4 GB, and you've got yourself a winner.
You want 32-bit instead of 64-bit? You have legacy hardware and drivers and shit? You're a goob? Last I checked you could still buy 32-bit XP licenses, and your current licenses wouldn't expire.
I'd also like you to show me a case where someone who wanted to upgrade from XP to Vista/7 would be able to (no hardware changes needed) go with the 32-bit version of Vista/7, but not the 64-bit version.
Odds are it's because of a printer or wifi adapter that doesn't have a 64-bit driver.
So what was the point in spinning off a foundry into a separate company?
(Same reason any company ever spawns other companies: To create positions for more CXOs and fuck around with the accounting books. AMD isn't doing well, even though I wish it were.)
PHYSICAL processors. You can have 16 cores show up in task manager (and be used) in XP if you get a dual socket system (2) with two quad core (4) core i7s running HT (2).
Typically they also compress images, have a local (at the ISP) cache of popular sites, and if you're lucky, block some "content" (lol ads) from loading.
"Let's say you're standing in a library with 20 shelves in front of you and thousands of books. You could take a picture and you'd immediately know where the book you're looking for is."
Dewey Decimal System already does that. Are books ever where they're supposed to be?
This shit is about as useful as barcode scanners for home use. We already have 2D barcodes if we need more information. All this will be used for is advertising.
And there's so much shit that will be added that will cut the car's performance and efficiency between when they "finish" it and when it's something you can drive off the lot.
The ONLY thing different about this car is the rapid charging battery. Nothing special, really.
So what? If I buy a glass, then drop it and cut myself, can I sue?
That shit is retarded. If people thought it was too hot, they should have stopped buying it. If you spill coffee, you have no one but yourself to blame. The fact that the damage caused was more severe than one would expect does not shift the blame.
Do I get to sue when I spill coffee and it causes a stain? Who is at fault? Do I get to sue when I spill coffee and I get a first degree burn? Who is at fault?
Why does it being a third degree burn shift the blame? The fuck up was still caused by the same moron spilling the coffee. The fact that it was hotter than most people are used to doesn't change anything, especially when you consider that people KNEW that McDonald's served coffee very hot.
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AMD could have used any FAB it wanted.
AMD could have made chips for anyone it wanted.
The other two points are exactly what I said - bullshit, jedi mind trick, hand-waving accounting.
These aren't the debts and losses you're looking for.
What prevented AMD from taking orders from other companies before spinning off the FAB?
AMD could have sold chip production to anyone using that FAB.
It wouldn't be that way if MS said "64-bit only" when they started talking about Windows 7.
XP licensing for netbooks only?
WTF is this bullshit. I've heard this FUD for almost a year now. I can STILL go to Dell's site and get XP on a regular desktop.
Atom is shit.
Atom-based hardware doesn't need to be running Windows 7.
That would be forward incompatibility.
I responded to your parenthetical.
Fuck netbooks.
Worst thing to happen to computing in the last 2 decades.
I'm pissed because there already exist working stable OSs for the 32-bit users who absolutely can't go to 64-bit.
Yet we keep catering to these fuckers, so we'll never get the big push for 64-bit software and drivers.
Is there some reason someone on a 32-bit platform NEEDS Windows 7 over Vista or XP?
AMD could have always made chips for other companies.
You stated the real reason.
FABs were expensive. AMD couldn't compete.
Now AMD will be getting a special rate at that FAB, so it can compete with Intel, and the shitty finances will transfer over to the FAB company.
The FAB company will be able to get away with huge losses and debt for a year or two since they're a "new company looking to establish themselves" and other such bullshit. They're wearing a new face in order to try to get new investors.
Because having 2 versions makes shit harder for those who make hardware, for consumers who are confused, and for software developers, who will take the lazy route and support 32-bit primarily, while shafting the 64-bit users with shoddy, half-assed implementations and support.
64-bit is fucking awesome when done right. In many cases you can get more than double the performance vs 32-bit (anything to do with photos, audio, video, etc. decoding, editing, encoding, etc, or sciency shit, or porn simulators.). Add on the ability to natively address more RAM than the paltry 4 GB, and you've got yourself a winner.
You want 32-bit instead of 64-bit? You have legacy hardware and drivers and shit? You're a goob? Last I checked you could still buy 32-bit XP licenses, and your current licenses wouldn't expire.
I'd also like you to show me a case where someone who wanted to upgrade from XP to Vista/7 would be able to (no hardware changes needed) go with the 32-bit version of Vista/7, but not the 64-bit version.
Odds are it's because of a printer or wifi adapter that doesn't have a 64-bit driver.
32nm is just about ready, isn't it?
Not in use for CPUs yet, but I think some shit is using it.
So what was the point in spinning off a foundry into a separate company?
(Same reason any company ever spawns other companies: To create positions for more CXOs and fuck around with the accounting books. AMD isn't doing well, even though I wish it were.)
May have been me.
32-bit should have died with XP.
Vista should have been 64-bit only.
No existing applications / devices that were 32-bit only had to worry, there was still 32-bit XP dammit.
But ok, whatever, fuck it, Intel was still flogging 32-bit CPUs for some reason, and people are morons. Fine.
But Windows 7? WHY THE FUCK do we need 32-bit versions of Windows 7? FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK
PHYSICAL processors.
You can have 16 cores show up in task manager (and be used) in XP if you get a dual socket system (2) with two quad core (4) core i7s running HT (2).
2*4*2 = 16.
And we still don't have anything better.
How, pray tell?
Durrrr.
Wrong.
Typically they also compress images, have a local (at the ISP) cache of popular sites, and if you're lucky, block some "content" (lol ads) from loading.
It's the other way around.
The OS is backward compatible with older programs.
The program is forward compatible with features in the upcoming version of the OS.
"Let's say you're standing in a library with 20 shelves in front of you and thousands of books. You could take a picture and you'd immediately know where the book you're looking for is."
Dewey Decimal System already does that.
Are books ever where they're supposed to be?
This shit is about as useful as barcode scanners for home use. We already have 2D barcodes if we need more information. All this will be used for is advertising.
Should any hardware manufacturer be able to tell me explicitly what software I must buy with my hard earned money?
Go bitch about Apple first.
No, in these situations, it's generally wise to reject ridiculous claims from people seeking grant money.
So true.
And there's so much shit that will be added that will cut the car's performance and efficiency between when they "finish" it and when it's something you can drive off the lot.
The ONLY thing different about this car is the rapid charging battery. Nothing special, really.
Who the fuck does a "Top 10" list with number 1 being shown first?
Nobody will click to the second page to read about botnet number 10.
And the courts decided wrongly.
There is no reason to shift the blame for an action based on the outcome of the action.
So what? If I buy a glass, then drop it and cut myself, can I sue?
That shit is retarded. If people thought it was too hot, they should have stopped buying it. If you spill coffee, you have no one but yourself to blame. The fact that the damage caused was more severe than one would expect does not shift the blame.
Do I get to sue when I spill coffee and it causes a stain? Who is at fault?
Do I get to sue when I spill coffee and I get a first degree burn? Who is at fault?
Why does it being a third degree burn shift the blame? The fuck up was still caused by the same moron spilling the coffee. The fact that it was hotter than most people are used to doesn't change anything, especially when you consider that people KNEW that McDonald's served coffee very hot.