According to Glen Greenwald in this statement, Poulsen chose to voluntarily withhold the full logs. Nowhere is any mention of national security or other sources mentioned by Poulsen or Greenwald.
We should not have to guess at Poulsen's reasons for not disclosing the full logs when he could state right out why.
Yes but it breaks page down and page up, because the left hand bar is now hovering at the top of the screen... so some text gets hidden when moving between pages because my browser (Firefox 2.0.0.11) does not realize the bar is there at the top.
Where is this list that you claim terrorism is the 456th leading cause of death.
So I can add something half interesting, please take a look at this bit of research done by Jim (clicked about link). It is not authoritative, but it is interesting. It is basically a few comparisions of leading causes of death, compared to the 9/11 attacks. Of course this does not take into account the economic impact of 9/11, but it does make one wonder if it really is worth the billions of dollars and lost liberties to attempt to prevent again.
On Gentoo linux, with full xfce, qt3 qt4 and gtk+ libs, developer tools C++ boost libraries, IDE's (kdevelop, vim, netbeans..) etc, I get the following:
ls -l/usr/bin//usr/sbin//sbin//lib//usr/lib | wc -l 4367
Just because I was bored, I also did:
ls -lR/usr/bin//usr/sbin//sbin//lib//usr/lib | wc -l 32373
That is a recursive search through those directories, however that is probably meaningless.
In short, I'm not so sure you have a default install going there, though I could be wrong. What linux distro are you using for the comparison? I'm getting ~800 fewer packages, on what I consider to be a fully installed system, to your default install from an install CD.
The point of the page layout is so that when reading the whole thing, you get to load 11 sets of advertisements.:S Personally its layouts like these that make me feel justified in using adblock, loading all those ads 11 times is a waste and slows down each pageload.
The choice in distributions is worth more to linux then having one unified "distro". From what I have seen, distributions usually just do the packaging of the various programs. Distrobutions are the ones that package the.rpm,.ebuild,.deb, whatever files. They don't actually write the applications themselves usually.
Quite a few of the applications are usually done by the GNOME/KDE/Xfce/etc devs. That is why we have all these apps starting with a K in them! Look at the long list of apps that are "official" for GNOME. Same for KDE. It is up to the KDE/GNOME/Xfce folks to make a "unified" interface as far as the user is concerned with GUI.
Getting things to work on various hardware (not printers and some other things) is up to the kernel developers. These things get written as kernel modules. So problems with hardware X is either one of two things, the kernel lacks support for hardware X, or whatever distro you are using fails to properly detect/autoconfigure the kernel to load the drivers for hardware X.
The rest of the applications are done independently or are part of the GNU tools. Examples of independent apps include Firefox, The GIMP, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, etc. The GNU tools are things like cat, make, wget, etc.
In short, distros just do the packaging, and change a few/alot settings on the window manager to give the distro a unique feel. Yes some distros do alot of work as far as auto-detection of hardware, but there is much more to the opensource development process then just the distro.
A lot of the strengths of linux comes from the fact that various distros are able to try out things, and other distros are free to copy, or not to copy. In reality there are only about 10 or so major distros. Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian,... the big names (I'm not going to try to give a full listing, no need to create any flames). There are hundreds of distros, but for all practical purposes, there are a limited selection of distros designed with new users in mind. I'd not be counting things like CentOS, gentoo, slackware or puppy linux for this "problem". CentOS is more or less a server distro, and puppy linux solves a unique problem. Gentoo and slackware are just.. um.. not something I'd hand the CD to a new user and say "go install it". This is another example of why a single "super" distro just won't cut it. Finally you have to remember that alot of the developers are doing this work on their own time, its hard to dictate to folks what they have to work on if you are not paying them;)
They make a plugin for that. I know it harms the folks that host the website, however abusing features of my browser to shove products at me is not a good way to attract folks. I know of some sites that don't abuse the ads, and thus I allow them on those sites (linux.com, slashdot, etc). For others, I'm sorry.
Also a minor note, using adblock does make those 30 second pages load faster, as you don't have to wait on the ad servers, which are usually the bottleneck on these types of pages
adds - Means making an addition by combining numbers.
ad - As in annoying popup advertisements. An example would be the sticker on the back of your car that advertises the dealership that you purchased the car from. You can't even remove those suckers easily!
It is easy to find if you simply google it. I used the following as search words: "firefox 3 beta 2 download", sans quotes. However if you are the type that wants a direct link, see the beta download page.
When you can't find something in a site, its often much easier to just simply put it in google, or any other search engine.
If you read the pdf link to the decision, it is noted on page 4 at the bottom that there will still be a further hearing. It is here that the RIAA will get a chance to substantiate its claims.
However I will say it is good that the judge actually read the arguments and understood that the RIAA did not provide the evidence.
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This chart was compiled by FDL and readers. Covers the whole timeline of what happened when and by who.
According to Glen Greenwald in this statement, Poulsen chose to voluntarily withhold the full logs. Nowhere is any mention of national security or other sources mentioned by Poulsen or Greenwald. We should not have to guess at Poulsen's reasons for not disclosing the full logs when he could state right out why.
Yes but it breaks page down and page up, because the left hand bar is now hovering at the top of the screen... so some text gets hidden when moving between pages because my browser (Firefox 2.0.0.11) does not realize the bar is there at the top.
Where is this list that you claim terrorism is the 456th leading cause of death.
So I can add something half interesting, please take a look at this bit of research done by Jim (clicked about link). It is not authoritative, but it is interesting. It is basically a few comparisions of leading causes of death, compared to the 9/11 attacks. Of course this does not take into account the economic impact of 9/11, but it does make one wonder if it really is worth the billions of dollars and lost liberties to attempt to prevent again.
On Gentoo linux, with full xfce, qt3 qt4 and gtk+ libs, developer tools C++ boost libraries, IDE's (kdevelop, vim, netbeans..) etc, I get the following:
/usr/bin/ /usr/sbin/ /sbin/ /lib/ /usr/lib | wc -l
/usr/bin/ /usr/sbin/ /sbin/ /lib/ /usr/lib | wc -l
ls -l
4367
Just because I was bored, I also did:
ls -lR
32373
That is a recursive search through those directories, however that is probably meaningless.
In short, I'm not so sure you have a default install going there, though I could be wrong. What linux distro are you using for the comparison? I'm getting ~800 fewer packages, on what I consider to be a fully installed system, to your default install from an install CD.
The point of the page layout is so that when reading the whole thing, you get to load 11 sets of advertisements. :S Personally its layouts like these that make me feel justified in using adblock, loading all those ads 11 times is a waste and slows down each pageload.
Yes he did, in particular he says he does not like mac, alright, fine. Did you read the rest of the post?
The choice in distributions is worth more to linux then having one unified "distro". From what I have seen, distributions usually just do the packaging of the various programs. Distrobutions are the ones that package the .rpm, .ebuild, .deb, whatever files. They don't actually write the applications themselves usually.
Quite a few of the applications are usually done by the GNOME/KDE/Xfce/etc devs. That is why we have all these apps starting with a K in them! Look at the long list of apps that are "official" for GNOME. Same for KDE. It is up to the KDE/GNOME/Xfce folks to make a "unified" interface as far as the user is concerned with GUI.
Getting things to work on various hardware (not printers and some other things) is up to the kernel developers. These things get written as kernel modules. So problems with hardware X is either one of two things, the kernel lacks support for hardware X, or whatever distro you are using fails to properly detect/autoconfigure the kernel to load the drivers for hardware X.
The rest of the applications are done independently or are part of the GNU tools. Examples of independent apps include Firefox, The GIMP, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, etc. The GNU tools are things like cat, make, wget, etc.
In short, distros just do the packaging, and change a few/alot settings on the window manager to give the distro a unique feel. Yes some distros do alot of work as far as auto-detection of hardware, but there is much more to the opensource development process then just the distro.
A lot of the strengths of linux comes from the fact that various distros are able to try out things, and other distros are free to copy, or not to copy. In reality there are only about 10 or so major distros. Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, ... the big names (I'm not going to try to give a full listing, no need to create any flames). There are hundreds of distros, but for all practical purposes, there are a limited selection of distros designed with new users in mind. I'd not be counting things like CentOS, gentoo, slackware or puppy linux for this "problem". CentOS is more or less a server distro, and puppy linux solves a unique problem. Gentoo and slackware are just.. um.. not something I'd hand the CD to a new user and say "go install it". This is another example of why a single "super" distro just won't cut it. Finally you have to remember that alot of the developers are doing this work on their own time, its hard to dictate to folks what they have to work on if you are not paying them ;)
They make a plugin for that. I know it harms the folks that host the website, however abusing features of my browser to shove products at me is not a good way to attract folks. I know of some sites that don't abuse the ads, and thus I allow them on those sites (linux.com, slashdot, etc). For others, I'm sorry.
Also a minor note, using adblock does make those 30 second pages load faster, as you don't have to wait on the ad servers, which are usually the bottleneck on these types of pages
It is easy to find if you simply google it. I used the following as search words: "firefox 3 beta 2 download", sans quotes. However if you are the type that wants a direct link, see the beta download page.
When you can't find something in a site, its often much easier to just simply put it in google, or any other search engine.
We are talking about Sweden. I'm afraid the FDA and the DOE lack jurisdiction due to the minor problem of sovereighty.
Yes, there is a world outside of the USA!
Now for virii spreading purposes should be... Now for virus spreading purposes
There, fixed it for you.
Just a note, AFD is not a vote. However if there is a problem with how admins are closing debates, thats what Deletion review is for.~~~~
If you read the pdf link to the decision, it is noted on page 4 at the bottom that there will still be a further hearing. It is here that the RIAA will get a chance to substantiate its claims.
However I will say it is good that the judge actually read the arguments and understood that the RIAA did not provide the evidence.