It's a shame that such nonsense can't be confined to idiots such as yourself. It would be nice if your stupidity only had consequences for you personally. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Someone else will suffer for your stupidity.
> so if your grandfather had invested in a building that rented out for his lifetime, it would be silly for you for continue to receive benefit from his idea and work?
> The vast majority of Americans do not have a vitamin deficiency, this has born out over and over again.. Primarily due to fortified items.
Just pointing to fortified flour and handwaving away the entire issue is no real argument. It just shows that you are happy to be ignorant. Most people are. It takes a degree of effort to be aware of these things.
You probably have no clue at all how you relate to the government recommendations. You just have blind faith that others will take care of things for you.
Now I do have some awareness of these issues. That's why I raised the question that I did. I have much less faith in the magic unicorns ensuring that everyone gets all of the vitamins the government says they should be getting.
The issues here are likely subtle enough that a study of this kind is pretty meaningless either way.
People aren't dropping like flies from Niacin deficiency. That doesn't mean there couldn't be other issues.
Vitamins may be big business but lifestyle pharmaceuticals are much more lucrative. I am sure that if given the choice, that Big Pharma would prefer you to be hooked on one or more of those more expesnsive drugs preferably with a cascading set of side effects.
Vitamins are cheap and have no patent protection. Any old small time loser can join in the fun.
> haha, not knowledgeable about running a restaurant, are you?
I didn't say that was pure profit.
However, I can make about 5x the amount of something and end up with a better quality result for the same amount of money by making it myself.
A restaurant has to ream you just to keep the doors open. It's just the economics of the business. That's why it's so ridiculously easy to beat ANY restaurant on price.
McDonald's isn't cheaper. That's just the excuse of lazy people.
> But is one week of 3 types of fresh produce items better than two months of multivitamins?
If that's the case then you're shopping like an idiot. That Kale is probably the most overpriced green leafy option going. The fresh Dill is also expensive and highly optional. The fruits hat you never name are probably much the same.
You can shop like a yuppie running amok in Whole Foods or you can be sensible about things.
You could probably do the same thing with the multivitamins too, opt for some excessively organic new age nonsense that jacks up the price 3x or 10x.
> What the fuck is "hummus"? Anyway, I've got better shit to do that cook exotic meals like that,
4 canned ingredients thrown into a food processor and pureed.
It's like a Lebanese version of Chili in that regard. It can be as simple or as overly complicated as you want to make it. It can be a few canned ingredients thrown together or you could go on a mad foodie complexity rampage.
Comes canned too. I will have to try the Spongebob branded variety sometime (just for lulz).
Quite. There are still going to be some vitamins missing from the fortification regimen.
There is a clear quantifiable disconnect here. Either the dietary recommendations for vitamins (and minerals) is a nothing but bullsh*t or this study is.
The average diet is likely to be deficient according to government guidelines.
> Spoken like someone who has plenty of options to eat.
Spoken like someone who takes pride in being a helpless ward of the state.
Between rice and carrots, carrots are remarkably simple to grow. If you have the soil and water for rice, carrots are no problem at all. They also store well.
If your fetish truely is Vitamin-A (and not just sucking Monsanto's dick) then you really can't beat carrots.
Carrots are like knowledge, a very small amount can go a long way.
Sure you can. You can violate the social contract in force when you created something, corrupt copyright law afterwards, and never allow that work to enter the Public Domain.
You mean like using Hollywood accounting to stiff the talent despite the fact that the film in question is one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
So (for example) you know how much Vitamin-K you need in a day, how much you actually get, and what you would need to eat if you aren't getting enough?
I really doubt it.
Most people aren't that aware or that clued in.
You're just make a pure leap of faith based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
There are also potato varieties that have increased Vitamin-A content. Probably just about every other vegetable you could name could be a useful contributor in this regard.
There's simply no need to bother with franken food.
> Spend the same $4 on fresh foods and they will go bad in days
Not a problem. Eat it in days.
I can buy the most expensive deli meats and organic buns and still come out ahead of McDonalds and Subway. Never mind the more mundane stuff and "real food".
It's a RESTAURANT. It has a 5x margin by it's very nature. It has to. Otherwise it could not possibly stay in business.
I can't imagine that everyone here in the peanut gallery doesn't have some sort of vitamin deficiency. Let's go with Vitamin-E for starters. Do you know if you get enough? Would you know what to eat to get more?
More than anything, this makes it sound like the RDA numbers are a fiction.
Extra vitamins don't help? Then whatever bad diets we all eat must be all hunky dory then...
Slashdot Mirror
It's a shame that such nonsense can't be confined to idiots such as yourself. It would be nice if your stupidity only had consequences for you personally. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Someone else will suffer for your stupidity.
> Copyright laws are meant to protect an artist's ability to monetize their creations
No. Copyright laws are meant to encourage the creation of new works. Such works are intended to be made available for future artists to build on.
> When on Medcaid your estate, after you die, becomes property of the state.
If you have an estate, this is not going to be a problem. People with something to protect have ample means to do so.
> so if your grandfather had invested in a building that rented out for his lifetime, it would be silly for you for continue to receive benefit from his idea and work?
Copyright is not property.
> The vast majority of Americans do not have a vitamin deficiency, this has born out over and over again.. Primarily due to fortified items.
Just pointing to fortified flour and handwaving away the entire issue is no real argument. It just shows that you are happy to be ignorant. Most people are. It takes a degree of effort to be aware of these things.
You probably have no clue at all how you relate to the government recommendations. You just have blind faith that others will take care of things for you.
Now I do have some awareness of these issues. That's why I raised the question that I did. I have much less faith in the magic unicorns ensuring that everyone gets all of the vitamins the government says they should be getting.
The issues here are likely subtle enough that a study of this kind is pretty meaningless either way.
People aren't dropping like flies from Niacin deficiency. That doesn't mean there couldn't be other issues.
Vitamins may be big business but lifestyle pharmaceuticals are much more lucrative. I am sure that if given the choice, that Big Pharma would prefer you to be hooked on one or more of those more expesnsive drugs preferably with a cascading set of side effects.
Vitamins are cheap and have no patent protection. Any old small time loser can join in the fun.
$12 a day is living large. That's including stuff like overpriced steak and sushi grade fish.
> Most of the poor cant cook and do not own all the special tools you have to cook with, you going to donate all your pans and utensels to people?
I know some trailer trash that could, also some "working poor".
That's really a stupid line of reasoning you've got there.
> I'm thinking you have no clue as to how poor people in the bottom 20% really are.
Nope. But they are stupid. Some of them would actually look at your argument and think it makes a lick of sense.
Been there. They don't need an idiot like you acting as an enabler for them.
> haha, not knowledgeable about running a restaurant, are you?
I didn't say that was pure profit.
However, I can make about 5x the amount of something and end up with a better quality result for the same amount of money by making it myself.
A restaurant has to ream you just to keep the doors open. It's just the economics of the business. That's why it's so ridiculously easy to beat ANY restaurant on price.
McDonald's isn't cheaper. That's just the excuse of lazy people.
> Spoken like someone who thinks that $5/lb Hormel salami
Nope. Troll harder next time.
Cheap vegetables are fresh and in season.
An exclusive brand name does not enhance the value or quality of a vegetable. it just makes it more expensive (like many things).
Some things just manage to be cheap to produce and lack any sort of glamour whatsoever. They make excellent staples.
> But is one week of 3 types of fresh produce items better than two months of multivitamins?
If that's the case then you're shopping like an idiot. That Kale is probably the most overpriced green leafy option going. The fresh Dill is also expensive and highly optional. The fruits hat you never name are probably much the same.
You can shop like a yuppie running amok in Whole Foods or you can be sensible about things.
You could probably do the same thing with the multivitamins too, opt for some excessively organic new age nonsense that jacks up the price 3x or 10x.
> What the fuck is "hummus"? Anyway, I've got better shit to do that cook exotic meals like that,
4 canned ingredients thrown into a food processor and pureed.
It's like a Lebanese version of Chili in that regard. It can be as simple or as overly complicated as you want to make it. It can be a few canned ingredients thrown together or you could go on a mad foodie complexity rampage.
Comes canned too. I will have to try the Spongebob branded variety sometime (just for lulz).
Google is your friend.
Quite. There are still going to be some vitamins missing from the fortification regimen.
There is a clear quantifiable disconnect here. Either the dietary recommendations for vitamins (and minerals) is a nothing but bullsh*t or this study is.
The average diet is likely to be deficient according to government guidelines.
> Spoken like someone who has plenty of options to eat.
Spoken like someone who takes pride in being a helpless ward of the state.
Between rice and carrots, carrots are remarkably simple to grow. If you have the soil and water for rice, carrots are no problem at all. They also store well.
If your fetish truely is Vitamin-A (and not just sucking Monsanto's dick) then you really can't beat carrots.
Carrots are like knowledge, a very small amount can go a long way.
> Carrots aren't available every where.
This is no more of a problem than it would be for your "magical" franken-rice.
> "There's simply no need to bother with franken food."
> ignorant asshole.
My arrogance is justified. You're an ignorant moron arguing for the expansion of corporate rights based on a misguided fantasy.
Knowledge is like a carrot, a little bit goes a long way.
Sure you can. You can violate the social contract in force when you created something, corrupt copyright law afterwards, and never allow that work to enter the Public Domain.
You mean like using Hollywood accounting to stiff the talent despite the fact that the film in question is one of the highest grossing movies of all time.
What he is talking about is minerals.
Vitamins are just complex organic compounds. Minerals aren't something that the plant can just make all by itself.
So you know that for a fact do you?
So (for example) you know how much Vitamin-K you need in a day, how much you actually get, and what you would need to eat if you aren't getting enough?
I really doubt it.
Most people aren't that aware or that clued in.
You're just make a pure leap of faith based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
...or you could eat like 1/10th of a carrot.
There are also potato varieties that have increased Vitamin-A content. Probably just about every other vegetable you could name could be a useful contributor in this regard.
There's simply no need to bother with franken food.
> Spend the same $4 on fresh foods and they will go bad in days
Not a problem. Eat it in days.
I can buy the most expensive deli meats and organic buns and still come out ahead of McDonalds and Subway. Never mind the more mundane stuff and "real food".
It's a RESTAURANT. It has a 5x margin by it's very nature. It has to. Otherwise it could not possibly stay in business.
A 5x margin is easy to beat.
OMG! They added Niacin to the school-lunch cheeseburgers! Sound the Alarm!
There was an NPR article like that. I kid you not.
The idiot was whining about "chemicals". Most of them were obviously vitamins most likely added to the flour used in making the burger buns.
...which is probably everyone.
I can't imagine that everyone here in the peanut gallery doesn't have some sort of vitamin deficiency. Let's go with Vitamin-E for starters. Do you know if you get enough? Would you know what to eat to get more?
More than anything, this makes it sound like the RDA numbers are a fiction.
Extra vitamins don't help? Then whatever bad diets we all eat must be all hunky dory then...
> Maybe this corn used for ethanol can be used for food again?
Most of the corn grown in this country is already unsuitable for use as food. Rolling back the ethanol mandates won't really change that.
Might make soda marginally cheaper, or not. Corn is already heavily subsidized anyways.