Yes. The real problem is that the user has figured out a way to use his computer in a way that YOU didn't expect. It's a general purpose device. THAT is kind of the point.
THIS is precisely the lame brained Apple mentality that I like to complain about.
> You had me nodding with you until you got to apt-get.
apt-get is a comprehensive solution that isn't just bolted on as an afterthought or by the end user. It is at the same time secure and open. It's not just a single app but a set of tools that any 3rd party can use. It allows for a seamless experience for everything rather than just a small subset of stuff that happens to be in a particular silo.
It allows for power users to provide bleeding edge builds, commercial 3rd parties can tie into it, and random "disconnected" web downloads can take advantage of it.
Chances are that you only have to mention a cool app by name and I can already install it just by calling it by name.
It's the app store as a tool set lacking the artificial limitations Apple likes to put on things.
> on Macs you can easily do things that aren't even considered on Linux or Windows
I've yet to see this myself. I've yet to see any of you fan boys manage to bring up a single example of this in any of your attempts at propaganda.
I think he's doing it for the same reason that Carnegie and Rockerfeller did. He didn't want to be remembered as a Robber Baron so he went to work trying to buy his way into a better image.
Jettison support? I run Linux on Macs because Linux has had better driver support for things like capture cards and 3rd party remotes and more complete support for things like video acceleration.
This MBP is one of the few exception when it comes to "support"
Apple reliability is overrated. So is Apple consistency.
"Elegance" is just subjective nonsense.
The problem with Apple is that things quickly go bad when you use it any manner remotely creative. It has an even worse group think than Windows. With Macs you will get shouted down for trying things that seem mundane on Linux or Windows.
apt-get is a killer feature and blows Apple variants out of the water when it comes to "elegance".
The main advantage of Macs is that you can "buy stuff" for it and Windows has a much bigger advantage in that regard.
No. Apple is the company willing to leave their users no other option. They're the company most willing to f*ck their legacy users over. This is not anything to brag about.
What Apple forces on you, PC vendors present as an option.
Linux is fine as a "normal desktop OS". The problem here is redefining "normal desktop" to mean grandmas that really should just get an iPad. A GUI does not negate the possibility of power users. There are plenty of GUI power users and they tend to get annoyed but Apple's allegedly superior product.
Well, the whole hybrid GPU thing is a low level device driver issue that's still not entirely resolved. It's a new thing even by Windows standards and a bit of a hack.
Although Linux should have at least defaulted to the crappy intel embedded graphics.
I put this nonsense on par with being extradited to Saudi Arabia for a violation of Sharia Law. While some people love to throw the term "rape" around in this discussion, what Assange is accused of is nothing like that. It comes off more like something you might expect out of the mountains of Afghanistan.
It's trumped up nonsense. Anyone is right to be suspicous of it.
My local iPad fan is dumping her iPad for a 7 inch Android tablet. It turns out there was some logic behind all of those book reader devices that decided on the 7 inch size.
The iPad had the appearance of being first to market and had a lot of mindless marketing buzz behind it. A lot of that was marketing posing as journalism. The original article here is just more of the same.
Smaller tablets have continued to thrive or even gain traction against Apple on it's own turf and now it's time to turn the battleship as it were and begin the propaganda deluge for Apple's "me too" product.
You don't have to know how to be able to pick up girls to be employable in a normal business setting and that's what this is really about. Some geeks don't know how to behave around girls in a social setting.
Work is not a "social" setting.
So the Aspbergers angle here doesn't make anyone unemployable.
I think hazing in general has been confused with sexual harrassment because the concept of sexual harrassment itself has been diluted to the point of being meaningless.
Some work environments might be harsh and likely to offend delicate sensibilities. Gender really has nothing to do with it but it gets injected regardless. Society still tends to treat women in a paternalistic fashion. This even applies to crusading feminists that often treat women in the same way an uptight religious busybody might.
Tablets don't quite have the vendor lock that PCs do. Much of the software is free. What's left tends to be very cheap. There's not such a big gap at this point between 3rd party support.
If anything, you're probably gravely overestimating the people that have any particular loyalty to Apple as a brand. The subsidized nature of phones and the relationship between tablets and phones doesn't help this either.
Most iPad users could probably be swayed by a tablet that is cheap enough to be an impulse buy. That gives all of the current 7 inch devices an easy point of entry.
Apple depends on hype but that may not always work in their favor.
>> I get really tired of this frame of stories that assume Apple is the alpha and the omega. > > When you start out like that you just look uninformed [thenextweb.com]. > > The fact is you should care if Apple is entering a niche because it means that other options may well dry up.
I think it's hilarious that Fanboys are still trotting out the lifespan argument for Apple devices now that we've had the big firestorm over the latest release of MacOS turning a lot of far less older machines into orphans.
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I'm surprised it took you iCultists so long to start slandering everyone who isn't a part of the iCult and can think outside the box.
Yes. The real problem is that the user has figured out a way to use his computer in a way that YOU didn't expect. It's a general purpose device. THAT is kind of the point.
THIS is precisely the lame brained Apple mentality that I like to complain about.
"You're holding it wrong."
Except you are conflating a common every day occurrence with some paranoid fantasy.
We don't have to fantasize about our particular what if, it's what the article is about. Any of us here could point to similarly orphaned software.
I knew someone that was subscribed to a cloud backup service that suddenly went dark recently with no notice given to the end users.
Meanwhile, my own local media keeps on chugging along outliving entire generations of "cloud" and DRM services.
> You had me nodding with you until you got to apt-get.
apt-get is a comprehensive solution that isn't just bolted on as an afterthought or by the end user. It is at the same time secure and open. It's not just a single app but a set of tools that any 3rd party can use. It allows for a seamless experience for everything rather than just a small subset of stuff that happens to be in a particular silo.
It allows for power users to provide bleeding edge builds, commercial 3rd parties can tie into it, and random "disconnected" web downloads can take advantage of it.
Chances are that you only have to mention a cool app by name and I can already install it just by calling it by name.
It's the app store as a tool set lacking the artificial limitations Apple likes to put on things.
> on Macs you can easily do things that aren't even considered on Linux or Windows
I've yet to see this myself. I've yet to see any of you fan boys manage to bring up a single example of this in any of your attempts at propaganda.
Macs are a lot of hype and nonsense.
I lambasted Mac hardware support. Not Mac hardware.
A clueless moron layman is talking out of his ass and spreading disinformation?
If it was my field, it would probably be "angry".
So I can totally empathize with the actual expert here.
Some people take their profession seriously.
The people that paid will be getting nice DRM-free spinny discs. Once this is fully realized, we can start seeding torrents.
I think he's doing it for the same reason that Carnegie and Rockerfeller did. He didn't want to be remembered as a Robber Baron so he went to work trying to buy his way into a better image.
Jettison support? I run Linux on Macs because Linux has had better driver support for things like capture cards and 3rd party remotes and more complete support for things like video acceleration.
This MBP is one of the few exception when it comes to "support"
Apple reliability is overrated. So is Apple consistency.
"Elegance" is just subjective nonsense.
The problem with Apple is that things quickly go bad when you use it any manner remotely creative. It has an even worse group think than Windows. With Macs you will get shouted down for trying things that seem mundane on Linux or Windows.
apt-get is a killer feature and blows Apple variants out of the water when it comes to "elegance".
The main advantage of Macs is that you can "buy stuff" for it and Windows has a much bigger advantage in that regard.
So that driver handles the whole "hybrid" thing too?
This isn't just your normal discrete nvidia card. Otherwise that should have been a pretty simple thing to deal with.
No. Apple is the company willing to leave their users no other option. They're the company most willing to f*ck their legacy users over. This is not anything to brag about.
What Apple forces on you, PC vendors present as an option.
Windows is only the standard for a secretary's terminal and games.
Beyond that, you need something a little more serious than Windows.
Linux is fine as a "normal desktop OS". The problem here is redefining "normal desktop" to mean grandmas that really should just get an iPad. A GUI does not negate the possibility of power users. There are plenty of GUI power users and they tend to get annoyed but Apple's allegedly superior product.
Well, the whole hybrid GPU thing is a low level device driver issue that's still not entirely resolved. It's a new thing even by Windows standards and a bit of a hack.
Although Linux should have at least defaulted to the crappy intel embedded graphics.
Yes. But Nevada does have the occasional plant and animal life even once you get out of the city. It's not totally barren.
I put this nonsense on par with being extradited to Saudi Arabia for a violation of Sharia Law. While some people love to throw the term "rape" around in this discussion, what Assange is accused of is nothing like that. It comes off more like something you might expect out of the mountains of Afghanistan.
It's trumped up nonsense. Anyone is right to be suspicous of it.
You are confusing socially awkward with "asshole" and they are by no stretch of the imagination the same thing.
Plenty of women love genuine assholes. Family courts are full of them. They tend to keep the cops and Child Protective Services quite busy too.
My local iPad fan is dumping her iPad for a 7 inch Android tablet. It turns out there was some logic behind all of those book reader devices that decided on the 7 inch size.
The iPad had the appearance of being first to market and had a lot of mindless marketing buzz behind it. A lot of that was marketing posing as journalism. The original article here is just more of the same.
Smaller tablets have continued to thrive or even gain traction against Apple on it's own turf and now it's time to turn the battleship as it were and begin the propaganda deluge for Apple's "me too" product.
Apple doesn't seem quite so inevitable any more.
You don't have to know how to be able to pick up girls to be employable in a normal business setting and that's what this is really about. Some geeks don't know how to behave around girls in a social setting.
Work is not a "social" setting.
So the Aspbergers angle here doesn't make anyone unemployable.
In other words, it's only harrassment if the girl does not like the guy.
I believe there was a Saturday Night Live skit on the subject.
The socially awkward are getting criminalized and further ostracized.
I think hazing in general has been confused with sexual harrassment because the concept of sexual harrassment itself has been diluted to the point of being meaningless.
Some work environments might be harsh and likely to offend delicate sensibilities. Gender really has nothing to do with it but it gets injected regardless. Society still tends to treat women in a paternalistic fashion. This even applies to crusading feminists that often treat women in the same way an uptight religious busybody might.
Better is better. You're the one being defensive and mistaking your consumer device for your penis.
Tablets don't quite have the vendor lock that PCs do. Much of the software is free. What's left tends to be very cheap. There's not such a big gap at this point between 3rd party support.
If anything, you're probably gravely overestimating the people that have any particular loyalty to Apple as a brand. The subsidized nature of phones and the relationship between tablets and phones doesn't help this either.
Most iPad users could probably be swayed by a tablet that is cheap enough to be an impulse buy. That gives all of the current 7 inch devices an easy point of entry.
Apple depends on hype but that may not always work in their favor.
>> I get really tired of this frame of stories that assume Apple is the alpha and the omega.
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> When you start out like that you just look uninformed [thenextweb.com].
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> The fact is you should care if Apple is entering a niche because it means that other options may well dry up.
You have just proven the other guys point.
I think it's hilarious that Fanboys are still trotting out the lifespan argument for Apple devices now that we've had the big firestorm over the latest release of MacOS turning a lot of far less older machines into orphans.
Apple uses the same spare parts as everyone else.