Nope. It breaks even if you are not using the "Notes Single Logon" service. As others have said, it's a problem with Winsock and TCP ports above 1024.
(Notes never uses real NT Domain authentication, like Exchange does. The single logon service just caches your local password and passes that to the Notes client, which then authenticates with Lotus' directory.) --
You are insisting that MS has a full test suite for every app, that gets run on every bit of code that MS releases, or you are going to cry gross incompetance or malice?
Lotus Notes, like it or not, is by far the most widely deployed corporate e-mail system, with two to three times the MS Outlook seats.
Any testing suite for Windows that didn't include Notes certainly wouldn't be doing the right thing by Microsoft's corporate customers. Gross Incompetance.
On the other hand, maybe they had a valid security reason to break Notes and other software. In that case, they should have documented that before the service pack was released, which they didn't. Malice. --
Note that Microsoft did NOT document this as a security feature in the Service Pack release notes.
Furthermore, it was widely believed that SP6 was going to be a bug fix release only, and add no new features. It looks like a real big bug that Microsoft just missed.
Actually, the video game gun dates far further back than the Nintendo -- pong systems had them in the late 70s, so the technology used must be very simple. --
Just as a point of reference, MSOffice 2000 does generate XML, but the only viewers that I know of are ActiveX applets that require a MS Office licence to run...
I've looked at the XML Office kicks out, and while I have no idea if it's compliant, it seems simple enough to be almost human readable. Does anyone know of a good open source converter for MS XML (to HTML or maybe a Java viewer)? --
On the other hand, I've had enormous problems with Cybex switchers, but always with Compaq Proliants. I'm assuming it's something funky with the Compaqs.
(Usually a jumpy mouse that is clicking all over the screen -- bad for NT!, but also loss of keyboard or even hard system lockups.) --
In agreement, I recall when Slashdot was in an uproar because Bill Gates declared that MS Office didn't have many bugs, because users never called in to report them.
The fact is that if 'Office' software craps out on you, you're probably just going to cuss at it and get on with your day. You can call Microsoft and get brushed off, or you can call your IT department and maybe get the lowest level guy they got to look at it.
On the other hand, if you can make a good technical case that either BIND or Microsoft DynamicDNS doesn't work right, you'll get a good response from the technical vendors, open source or commercial.
(Or another case-in-point, WordPerfect used to be known for it's quality free technical support. Didn't stop people from switching to MS Word.) --
As another point of reference, Pong was actually a ripoff of the Magnavox Odyssey, although Pong beat it to market. (Magnavox was demonstrating the game at various tradeshows, and apparently Bushnell saw it. The Odyssey was actually an analog system, tho.) --
Office2000 is a nice piece of work, but if it was your dime, would you pay for the upgrade from Office 97? Excluding the server extensions, there's almost no new features there (not that there needs to be).
[I just Mr. Clippy "What's New in Excel?", and there was less than ten things listed.]
As for startup time, don't forget the Microsoft Office DLL preloader in your startup folder. One annoying thing about Office2000 is that you apparently can't remove this - the Windows Installer just puts it back. --
Can you see the Chinese Intelligence Agency (what ever they might be called) releasing the code to the programs they have written to crack encoded messages, because the GPL says they should,...
I can't see any state intelligence agency releasing any code cracking software (except to close allies), and my understanding is that if there's no distribution, there is no need to release the source code. --
Wasn't "Merlin" the code name for OS/2 Warp 4, circa 1995-6?
Not to berate OS/2 or it's users, but I think it's important to understand that by then, the "OS Wars" of the early 90s were already over, with Windows coming out on top. The key make-or-break period for OS/2 (and MacOS's) corporate adoption was actually in the 1989-1992 period. By the time OS/2 was marketed to consumers in a huge ad campaign (bring rise to TeamOS2 and big flamewars on usenet), most corporations had already completely evaluated OS/2 and either adopted it or not adopted it. It was pretty much all over but the shouting when Warp 4 shipped.
(BTW, I believe the NE* actually stands for "Novell Eagle", and the NE series of cards were originally manufactured by Novell. That might explain the exclusivity agreement.) --
Actually, I thought it was conventional wisdom that the "Better Windows Than Windows" aspect of OS/2 are one of the things that limited developer support.
Look at Windows NT in the early years - the WOW subsystem is certainly better than standard Win3.1 (if your app would run, that is), but that didn't promote much adoption, and nor were there many NT applications. For both NT and OS/2 (and Linux with Wine), downward compatibility is a nice feature, but it doesn't sell the OS.
The only thing that saved NT as a desktop platform is that MS ported the Win32 API down to mainstream DOS/Windows. This 'upward' compatibility has given NT plenty of applications, but most of them are not NT applications in the sense that they recognize user security or unique OS features. (Even very few Microsoft applications respect NT security.) --
As a footnote, Microsoft is not my enemy, I make part of my living working with their products. This has given me a certain insight into their business practices.
As far as your rebuttal goes, if you did control the #2 pencil market, most consumers would feel that you had a pencil monopoly. The fact that there are esoteric and expensive 'engineering pencils' doesn't affect the lack of choice for the average pencil user. You seem to be arguing my point rather than your own.
The fact is that "Desktop PCs" are a legitimate market category, and if you wanted to add Macintoshes and low end Sparc and Alpha workstations, it wouldn't affect the total market share of Windows all that much. --
Wait until Sony starts including iLink (FireWire) on all of it's consumer electronic products - not just the Playstation, but TVs, DVD players, recievers. (Most Sony computers come with iLink too.)
Perhaps then the applications will be more obvious, and we'll start to see greater adoption. --
I see more USB peripherals marketed for Windows machines than I do for iMac machines these days...
The problem is that many USB devices work equally well on the Mac or the PC (mice for example), except the Mac version usually costs more. I've even seen "PC" USB printers that are a suspicous transparent blue color. Saavy Mac users just buy the Windows version to save a few bucks and then download the drivers.
Trying to argue if Win98 or the iMac is responsible is pointless -- the products came out within months of each other and are both responsible. Only that with modern Macs, if it ain't USB, you can't type, point, or print, so the USB adoption rate on the Mac side is certainly higher (like 100%). --
Personaly, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft pushed USB for all it's worth, to keep Linux out of competition for just a little bit longer
Except that Linux has better USB support than Windows NT, which will have absolutely no support until next year some time. The biggest victim of MS/Intel's "PC99" push has been Microsoft, because it's limited the adoption of WinNT workstation (which is twice the price of 98). Hope that ends the conspiracy theory. --
Back in the 486/586 era, it was pretty common for reviews of ethernet cards to include a "CPU Utilization" benchmark. ISA cards generally used 2 to 3 times the CPU of PCI cards. I don't know what you are paying for CPUs, but that $10 extra dollars for PCI ethernet is probably worth it in improved processor efficiency.
We're already seeing $20 USB mice -- it will be only a matter of time until all the cheapo stuff is in USB. --
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Yup.
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You're right - I sniffed too much glue this morning. I thought he was talking about the Notes Winsock problem, not the CE hole.
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Nope. It breaks even if you are not using the "Notes Single Logon" service. As others have said, it's a problem with Winsock and TCP ports above 1024.
(Notes never uses real NT Domain authentication, like Exchange does. The single logon service just caches your local password and passes that to the Notes client, which then authenticates with Lotus' directory.)
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Whoever moderated this up made a mistake.
It's a network (winsock) security/bug issue which has nothing to do with password storage.
Are you trying to spread FUD about Notes' security system? I suppose you think PGP sucks too.
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You are insisting that MS has a full test suite for every app, that gets run on every bit of code that MS releases, or you are going to cry gross incompetance or malice?
Lotus Notes, like it or not, is by far the most widely deployed corporate e-mail system, with two to three times the MS Outlook seats.
Any testing suite for Windows that didn't include Notes certainly wouldn't be doing the right thing by Microsoft's corporate customers. Gross Incompetance.
On the other hand, maybe they had a valid security reason to break Notes and other software. In that case, they should have documented that before the service pack was released, which they didn't. Malice.
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Note that Microsoft did NOT document this as a security feature in the Service Pack release notes.
Furthermore, it was widely believed that SP6 was going to be a bug fix release only, and add no new features. It looks like a real big bug that Microsoft just missed.
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MS Office's XML output is mostly just HTML with CSS.
That's true if you publish static HTML from Office, but if you save an "interactive" version, you get something that looks like this (from excel):
<td class=xl15 width=64 style='width:48pt'>One</td> <td class=xl15 width=64 style='width:48pt' x:num="1"></td> <td class=xl15 width=64 style='width:48pt' x:num="2" x:fmla="=B1+1">
As you can see, it looks dead easy to interpret, but right now the only interpreter I know of is the Office ActiveX controls.
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Every commercial operating system vendor I can think of also produces development tools. How is MS any different?
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Actually, the video game gun dates far further back than the Nintendo -- pong systems had them in the late 70s, so the technology used must be very simple.
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Just as a point of reference, MSOffice 2000 does generate XML, but the only viewers that I know of are ActiveX applets that require a MS Office licence to run...
I've looked at the XML Office kicks out, and while I have no idea if it's compliant, it seems simple enough to be almost human readable. Does anyone know of a good open source converter for MS XML (to HTML or maybe a Java viewer)?
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On the other hand, I've had enormous problems with Cybex switchers, but always with Compaq Proliants. I'm assuming it's something funky with the Compaqs.
(Usually a jumpy mouse that is clicking all over the screen -- bad for NT!, but also loss of keyboard or even hard system lockups.)
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In agreement, I recall when Slashdot was in an uproar because Bill Gates declared that MS Office didn't have many bugs, because users never called in to report them.
The fact is that if 'Office' software craps out on you, you're probably just going to cuss at it and get on with your day. You can call Microsoft and get brushed off, or you can call your IT department and maybe get the lowest level guy they got to look at it.
On the other hand, if you can make a good technical case that either BIND or Microsoft DynamicDNS doesn't work right, you'll get a good response from the technical vendors, open source or commercial.
(Or another case-in-point, WordPerfect used to be known for it's quality free technical support. Didn't stop people from switching to MS Word.)
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As another point of reference, Pong was actually a ripoff of the Magnavox Odyssey, although Pong beat it to market. (Magnavox was demonstrating the game at various tradeshows, and apparently Bushnell saw it. The Odyssey was actually an analog system, tho.)
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Hmmm... Here's an equally true statement:
Netscape Navigator is not done properly. Standard support is poor, and undoubtedly the code implementing it is shoddy.
Security in Navigator has repeatedly been shown to be badly broken, and almost certainly not an integral part of the design.
The idea that digital signatures can protect a user from malicious code is ludicrous. (Netscape has this feature too.)
Yawn.
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Office2000 is a nice piece of work, but if it was your dime, would you pay for the upgrade from Office 97? Excluding the server extensions, there's almost no new features there (not that there needs to be).
[I just Mr. Clippy "What's New in Excel?", and there was less than ten things listed.]
As for startup time, don't forget the Microsoft Office DLL preloader in your startup folder. One annoying thing about Office2000 is that you apparently can't remove this - the Windows Installer just puts it back.
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Now if we can just get Windows NT to do that:
C:\>CD \\SERVER1\SHARE1
'\\SERVER1\SHARE1' is an invalid current directory path. UNC paths are not supported.
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Can you see the Chinese Intelligence Agency (what ever they might be called) releasing the code to the programs they have written to crack encoded messages, because the GPL says they should, ...
I can't see any state intelligence agency releasing any code cracking software (except to close allies), and my understanding is that if there's no distribution, there is no need to release the source code.
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Late reply, but I just confirmed that Notes 5 installs MFC.DLL.
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Wasn't "Merlin" the code name for OS/2 Warp 4, circa 1995-6?
Not to berate OS/2 or it's users, but I think it's important to understand that by then, the "OS Wars" of the early 90s were already over, with Windows coming out on top. The key make-or-break period for OS/2 (and MacOS's) corporate adoption was actually in the 1989-1992 period. By the time OS/2 was marketed to consumers in a huge ad campaign (bring rise to TeamOS2 and big flamewars on usenet), most corporations had already completely evaluated OS/2 and either adopted it or not adopted it. It was pretty much all over but the shouting when Warp 4 shipped.
(BTW, I believe the NE* actually stands for "Novell Eagle", and the NE series of cards were originally manufactured by Novell. That might explain the exclusivity agreement.)
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Actually, I thought it was conventional wisdom that the "Better Windows Than Windows" aspect of OS/2 are one of the things that limited developer support.
Look at Windows NT in the early years - the WOW subsystem is certainly better than standard Win3.1 (if your app would run, that is), but that didn't promote much adoption, and nor were there many NT applications. For both NT and OS/2 (and Linux with Wine), downward compatibility is a nice feature, but it doesn't sell the OS.
The only thing that saved NT as a desktop platform is that MS ported the Win32 API down to mainstream DOS/Windows. This 'upward' compatibility has given NT plenty of applications, but most of them are not NT applications in the sense that they recognize user security or unique OS features. (Even very few Microsoft applications respect NT security.)
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As a footnote, Microsoft is not my enemy, I make part of my living working with their products. This has given me a certain insight into their business practices.
As far as your rebuttal goes, if you did control the #2 pencil market, most consumers would feel that you had a pencil monopoly. The fact that there are esoteric and expensive 'engineering pencils' doesn't affect the lack of choice for the average pencil user. You seem to be arguing my point rather than your own.
The fact is that "Desktop PCs" are a legitimate market category, and if you wanted to add Macintoshes and low end Sparc and Alpha workstations, it wouldn't affect the total market share of Windows all that much.
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Wait until Sony starts including iLink (FireWire) on all of it's consumer electronic products - not just the Playstation, but TVs, DVD players, recievers. (Most Sony computers come with iLink too.)
Perhaps then the applications will be more obvious, and we'll start to see greater adoption.
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I see more USB peripherals marketed for Windows machines than I do for iMac machines these days...
The problem is that many USB devices work equally well on the Mac or the PC (mice for example), except the Mac version usually costs more. I've even seen "PC" USB printers that are a suspicous transparent blue color. Saavy Mac users just buy the Windows version to save a few bucks and then download the drivers.
Trying to argue if Win98 or the iMac is responsible is pointless -- the products came out within months of each other and are both responsible. Only that with modern Macs, if it ain't USB, you can't type, point, or print, so the USB adoption rate on the Mac side is certainly higher (like 100%).
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Personaly, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft pushed USB for all it's worth, to keep Linux out of competition for just a little bit longer
Except that Linux has better USB support than Windows NT, which will have absolutely no support until next year some time. The biggest victim of MS/Intel's "PC99" push has been Microsoft, because it's limited the adoption of WinNT workstation (which is twice the price of 98). Hope that ends the conspiracy theory.
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Back in the 486/586 era, it was pretty common for reviews of ethernet cards to include a "CPU Utilization" benchmark. ISA cards generally used 2 to 3 times the CPU of PCI cards. I don't know what you are paying for CPUs, but that $10 extra dollars for PCI ethernet is probably worth it in improved processor efficiency.
We're already seeing $20 USB mice -- it will be only a matter of time until all the cheapo stuff is in USB.
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