It could SIMPLY have been that the bookstore staff were clueless. I've seen this happen. My wife prevented it from happening in a mall bookstore she was working in, in fact.
I worked on the same machine at MasterCard, and it had a boatload of storage which did add a lot to the bringup time. It wasn't so much the fsck as veritas volume manager going out to start up several terabytes (last *I* saw they had 5 or 6T of disk) split up into thousands of volumes (last I saw the largest was typically 2 Gig, try dividing 2 Gig into 6T).
1650 hardly qualifies as "recent history". The last 100 years qualifies as "recent history", and I'd say governmentally we've been becoming more restrictive over the course of the last 50 to 75.
Um...I would absolutely not agree about "every nation you can think of". The US definitely has become more repressive in recent history, the brief blip of the 60's notwithstanding.
The US hasn't been first in safety for a long time. As an example, I have a friend who is a young single woman. She can safely go out to clubs by herself at night in Tel Aviv and have NO worries about being attacked, mugged, raped, etc. There are concerns about terrorists, but the odds of being killed in such an incident are similar to the odds of being run over by a car--and they aren't anything you have control over. But she is not required by safety concerns to NOT go certain places at certain times.
As for freedom, looking at the cabinet of our new president (largely corporate or corporate-friendly managers), I can hardly expect it's going to get any better.
Corporate Power is on the rise; it's no longer the government being big brother, it's corporations buying power and using the system to their own amoral ends. While there's something to be said for corporations (I work for one too) and their value to society, they have exceeded the point of being controlled by regulations to any significant extent.
Hm....security through obscurity....a highly useful technique...NOT.
Seriously, basically what you're saying is we should trust the government is always acting in our best interests. Which is clearly not true given the historical record.
What's to stop them from classifying anything that constitutes evidence of actions which may not necessarily be in our best interests (despite the best intentions of those involved; I do believe most elected officials believe they are doing what's right)? Then, when someone gets FOIA access to the documents, which demonstrate clearly that this course of action was sanctioned and was not in our best interests, they can't talk about it to anyone else? That's useless!
The whole point was to provide a means to prevent coverups from succeeding.
The full quote is: That government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. Which is from the Gettysburg Address.
There is a similar quote by Daniel Webster: The people's government, made for the people, made by the people, and answerable to the people. This predates Lincoln's speech by 33 years, and is being made in reference to the opening of the constitution which states "We, the people, do ordain and establish,".
Exactly. There are a number of forms of "compromising emanations" and details thereof that have been redacted from the text, and I'm really curious what they could be, since they've covered the usual EMR and audio variations that seem obvious in the non-redacted sections.
Alan Moore seems to differ with you on this point. His runs writing several books have been excellent by many reports. Personally, I have only really read Watchmen and his current series Promethea, but they are both amazingly great and VERY serious (but with plenty of humor).
All 'copy protection' schemes are about preventing people who have legally purchased material from using
their material in ways which the law has always allowed.
This simply isn't true. What about the "book schemes" used by games a few years back. To start the game you have to
enter a word from the book which "proves" you bought the game and have the book. You're allowed to backup the
program, you're allowed to put it on different machines, you just need the book to play it. What aren't you allowed to
do that the law allows?
That's NOT A COPY PROTECTION SCHEME. Nothing about the book method prevents you from making copies, as you yourself said.
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Dunno what these other people are babbling about. The original space elevator that AC Clarke came up with was in The Fountains of Paradise.
Exactly. It's not like what is up and running is the official, stable 2.4. It's something else that's prerelease. We might as well say Mac OS X is here because betas are available.
(much like Intel did years ago with its "protected access mode" on its CPUs to assuage M$)
Say WHAT? Any CPU worth running a "real" OS on (or even an unreal one like windows) has a "Protected Mode". That's how the flipping kernel of Linux and any other Unix works, not just windows. Sun's SPARC architecture, and probably all the other manufacturer-specific architectures, ABSOLUTELY has a protected mode, and God Knows they didn't do it for MicroShaft.
That means game/software makers can keep their software from being installed on your computer!
The one silver lining I can see in this is that such things would qualify as what I hear sales people bitching about all the time: sales prevention. Let's go with a ferinstance:
Joe User in the US buys a really cheap computer over the net. Part of why it's cheap is that it's all manufactured overseas and hence doesn't have the fancy CPRM (or whatever) drive in it. He goes out and buys the latest game that is hyped. It won't install on his disk because he doesn't have the CPRM drive. So he has the choice of a) buying a new hard drive and reinstalling just for this bloody game, or b) returning the game and saying gimme my money back idiots.
I think most Joe Users would opt for door "b", regardless of their politics or experience level. And that would have a serious impact on the game manufacturer's bottom line. (not to mention, given all the OTHER hacks through copy protection on games, how long before Joe User just goes out to the net and downloads the latest hacked version that doesn't care what drive it's installed on, or more likely gets a copy from his geeky friend who already did?)
I just don't see this scheme as working out in any practical way, unless of course as someone else mentioned, it becomes legislated as mandatory. And we all know that won't happen...right? RIGHT?
Everything I saw in that article was talking about ATA/ATAPI drives. So what? My next generation PC will be SCSI then. Let's see them put copy protection on every damn scsi drive on the planet (and there's a lot more of them than there are ATA drives).
So can someone at SETI@Home fix their server so that the news cgi link actually provides me with a web page instead of the perl source for the script? Or is there some other link somewhere to the "close calls"?
This kind of inability to manage their webpage seems symptomatic of other things I've heard about the SETI approach (like reprocessing the same data over and over for a while, etc.)
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It could SIMPLY have been that the bookstore staff were clueless. I've seen this happen. My wife prevented it from happening in a mall bookstore she was working in, in fact.
I worked on the same machine at MasterCard, and it had a boatload of storage which did add a lot to the bringup time. It wasn't so much the fsck as veritas volume manager going out to start up several terabytes (last *I* saw they had 5 or 6T of disk) split up into thousands of volumes (last I saw the largest was typically 2 Gig, try dividing 2 Gig into 6T).
Somebody please mod this up. I would, except I've already responded elsewhere to this article.
1650 hardly qualifies as "recent history". The last 100 years qualifies as "recent history", and I'd say governmentally we've been becoming more restrictive over the course of the last 50 to 75.
Doesn't Albania already hold that position? See _Eat the Rich_ by PJ O'Rourke.
Um...I would absolutely not agree about "every nation you can think of". The US definitely has become more repressive in recent history, the brief blip of the 60's notwithstanding.
As for freedom, looking at the cabinet of our new president (largely corporate or corporate-friendly managers), I can hardly expect it's going to get any better.
Corporate Power is on the rise; it's no longer the government being big brother, it's corporations buying power and using the system to their own amoral ends. While there's something to be said for corporations (I work for one too) and their value to society, they have exceeded the point of being controlled by regulations to any significant extent.
So...how far can you overclock the Celery 800 then? Anyone got it running over 1GHz yet?
If anyone is interested, ZDNet India still has a copy available at http://www.zdnetindia.com/swlib/messengerA2Z.exe.
Seriously, basically what you're saying is we should trust the government is always acting in our best interests. Which is clearly not true given the historical record.
What's to stop them from classifying anything that constitutes evidence of actions which may not necessarily be in our best interests (despite the best intentions of those involved; I do believe most elected officials believe they are doing what's right)? Then, when someone gets FOIA access to the documents, which demonstrate clearly that this course of action was sanctioned and was not in our best interests, they can't talk about it to anyone else? That's useless!
The whole point was to provide a means to prevent coverups from succeeding.
There is a similar quote by Daniel Webster: The people's government, made for the people, made by the people, and answerable to the people. This predates Lincoln's speech by 33 years, and is being made in reference to the opening of the constitution which states "We, the people, do ordain and establish,".
So how is our government not BY the people?
Exactly. There are a number of forms of "compromising emanations" and details thereof that have been redacted from the text, and I'm really curious what they could be, since they've covered the usual EMR and audio variations that seem obvious in the non-redacted sections.
It's a damn shame there isn't some filter that lets us filter out all the whiners who don't like Katz posts.
Except for this one, of course. Else how did you get here?
If you're too lazy to go there, Houston opened 12/22. Hopefully it hasn't already closed.....
Alan Moore seems to differ with you on this point. His runs writing several books have been excellent by many reports. Personally, I have only really read Watchmen and his current series Promethea, but they are both amazingly great and VERY serious (but with plenty of humor).
This simply isn't true. What about the "book schemes" used by games a few years back. To start the game you have to enter a word from the book which "proves" you bought the game and have the book. You're allowed to backup the program, you're allowed to put it on different machines, you just need the book to play it. What aren't you allowed to do that the law allows?
That's NOT A COPY PROTECTION SCHEME. Nothing about the book method prevents you from making copies, as you yourself said.
Dunno what these other people are babbling about. The original space elevator that AC Clarke came up with was in The Fountains of Paradise.
Exactly. It's not like what is up and running is the official, stable 2.4. It's something else that's prerelease. We might as well say Mac OS X is here because betas are available.
I like it when those miniature twins sing to make Mithra come and fight Godzilla....
Say WHAT? Any CPU worth running a "real" OS on (or even an unreal one like windows) has a "Protected Mode". That's how the flipping kernel of Linux and any other Unix works, not just windows. Sun's SPARC architecture, and probably all the other manufacturer-specific architectures, ABSOLUTELY has a protected mode, and God Knows they didn't do it for MicroShaft.
The one silver lining I can see in this is that such things would qualify as what I hear sales people bitching about all the time: sales prevention. Let's go with a ferinstance:
Joe User in the US buys a really cheap computer over the net. Part of why it's cheap is that it's all manufactured overseas and hence doesn't have the fancy CPRM (or whatever) drive in it. He goes out and buys the latest game that is hyped. It won't install on his disk because he doesn't have the CPRM drive. So he has the choice of a) buying a new hard drive and reinstalling just for this bloody game, or b) returning the game and saying gimme my money back idiots.
I think most Joe Users would opt for door "b", regardless of their politics or experience level. And that would have a serious impact on the game manufacturer's bottom line. (not to mention, given all the OTHER hacks through copy protection on games, how long before Joe User just goes out to the net and downloads the latest hacked version that doesn't care what drive it's installed on, or more likely gets a copy from his geeky friend who already did?)
I just don't see this scheme as working out in any practical way, unless of course as someone else mentioned, it becomes legislated as mandatory. And we all know that won't happen...right? RIGHT?
Sigh.
What would I want at Radio Shack for $100? :-)
Everything I saw in that article was talking about ATA/ATAPI drives. So what? My next generation PC will be SCSI then. Let's see them put copy protection on every damn scsi drive on the planet (and there's a lot more of them than there are ATA drives).
This kind of inability to manage their webpage seems symptomatic of other things I've heard about the SETI approach (like reprocessing the same data over and over for a while, etc.)